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Offline HowardH

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Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« on: November 07, 2015, 08:28 PM »
Deciding it was time to move up in size for a planer, I sold my Hammer a3-31 and ordered a Griz GO454Z planer with the helical head.  Unlike you may been told,   ::)   size does matter, especially when it comes to woodworking machines!   I originally paid for lift gate service but after a conversation with UPS freight, I find out their idea of lift gate service was to simply drop it off in front of my house and then adios.  I had no way to get a 1000# machine into the garage which is the back of the house off an alley.  Instead, I told them to leave it at the terminal and I hired another local service to pick it up and bring it to me.  It was only $50 and Griz refunded my their lift gate fee so it was about a wash.  However, they delivered it on a pallet which was underneath the skid the factory put it on.  Uh oh...  Now how am I going to get it off?  As luck would have it, at that exact time a couple of guys came by to deliver some furniture and they were willing to help me remove it from the pallet.  Best $40 tip I ever spent.  This thing is massive!  I had another thread asking about the electrical requirements and after reading the comments and listening to my electrician, I ran 10/2 wire from the panel to a new outlet with a 30 amp circuit.  No issues with the breaker tripping.  There wasn't much to assemble.  Had to attach the front caster, the height adjustment wheel and the huge wings.  It took my son and I to accomplish that.  The wings weighed at least 50#'s.  One interesting thing was it didn't come fully filled up with gear oil for the gear box.  That necessitated a Walmart trip to buy a bottle of 90 weight oil.  With the heilical head, it runs very quietly, all things considered.  It came pretty well set up, really didn't need to adjust anything.  It has two bed rollers that are vertically adjustable and I found that running a board straight through, it can hang up on the back edge of the slot of the first roller.  I found by slightly skewing the angle of the board when it's started, it has no problem going through smoothly. 

The fit and finish are great.  The cast iron bed and tables came covered with oil that needed to be cleaned with a bit of WD-40. 



With casters, it moves remarkably easily.  I don't think I'll be moving it very much but if I have to, it will be easy to accomplish.



Here is why I got it.  I am building wide cutting boards and having only a 12" planer simply doesn't cut it, so to speak.  This pic shows a glue up I was only able to accomplish by having a 20" planer. 



The panels are 17" across and have to be perfectly flat in order to glue them like a sandwich.  Before I got this machine, I tried to do this using an open ended Supermax sander.  It's not even close!  The sander left the boards slightly wavy.  It took a couple of passes through the planer to truly get them flat.  All in all, I can't imagine that a Jet or Powermatic that is almost $2000 more would have done this operation any better than this Griz.  I suppose if you had a cabinet shop where it was running all day it makes sense to be able to get local service but that's not an issue I have.  In a couple of weeks, I plan on ordering an 8" HH jointer as well. If you are considering a big planer, you may want to consider this one.  I was a little worried about shipping damage and quality control but those fears disappeared once I got to get it assembled and operational.  I also ordered a Wixey digital planer gauge as I hate to always be pulling out my calipers and having to guess how much take off.

 

« Last Edit: November 07, 2015, 08:36 PM by HowardH »
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Offline Peter Halle

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2015, 08:31 PM »
I am so jealous.  Rock the junk out of that Howard!

Peter

Offline HowardH

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2015, 08:35 PM »
Thanks, Peter.  I have a new spring in my woodworking step! ;D ;D
Howard H
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Offline copcarcollector

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2015, 09:30 PM »
Awesome!

Question, is the start/stop button facing the bed like that from the factory? It seems a very unusual arrangement for those buttons. The pics on the Grizzly site show them facing the infeed side of the machine, not the bed. Just wondering...

Offline HowardH

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2015, 09:44 PM »
There were a few things that differed from what is shown on the website.  I hadn't thought about the switch box until you said something.  I actually like it better as I stand on the opposite side of the machine to walk to the other side to get the planed board.  It makes it easier to reach over instead of reaching around.  The other thing was how the dust collection chute was attached.  The manual must be out of date as they now use a threaded hole on the machine to run a screw through vs. the screw and nut they describe in the manual. 
Howard H
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Offline Billedis

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2015, 10:19 PM »
Awesome @HowardH I have had the 15" for 10 years now and it has delivered everything I wanted.  I am thinking about upgrading to the Byrd Shellix head.  Just finished planing 300 bd ft of 5/4 poplar to 13/16.  Not a problem.

Enjoy!  Bill

Offline MrGinCT

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2015, 11:15 PM »
I just upgraded my 8" powermatic jointer to a Byrd Shelix head and I totally agree that the the difference in the cut is amazing.  I'm thinking about biting the bullet and doing the upgrade to my 15" delta planner.

Offline jbasen

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015, 12:34 AM »
Very cool!

I can't imagine trying to get a half ton machine up to my shop on the 2nd floor of my house. It would probably fall straight through the floor into the garage [eek]

Needless to say I am very jealous

Offline Kev

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2015, 01:55 AM »
Do I see a potential for vacuum bagging in your glue ups? Or maybe a glue press.

Offline HowardH

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2015, 05:04 PM »
a vacuum bag would be nice.  I got the idea from MTMwood, the russian guy.  He has a press of some sort but as long as I'm not wider than 17" or so, the F clamps work pretty well. 
Howard H
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Offline rvieceli

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2015, 05:34 PM »
@HowardH

You might want to consider adding some 24 inch Bowclamps to your process.

http://www.bowclamp.com/

Ron

Offline HowardH

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2015, 09:09 PM »
I actually have a pair of those!  They were hiding out somewhere.  Per Swenson turned me on to them.  Thanks for reminding me! 
Howard H
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Mark Twain:  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a letter approving of it." "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything."

P1cc, T15, TID-18, RO150FEQ, ETS EC 150, MT55cc, RTS400, CT22, CT36E, 800, 1080, 1400, 1400 holey, 1900 rails, OF1400, OF1010, CSX, C18, LR32, VacSys, Vecturo, Domino, Qwas dogs, Parf Dogs, Zobo's, Syslite Uni, CMS GE, PM 1500, Jet J/P, FS-WA, Shaper Origin. Felder AF-14, TSC 55 KEB, Dash-Board bench system

Offline dingram

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Re: Grizzly 20" HH planer - aka the Beast!
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2015, 02:57 PM »
Awesome machine!!!

I am curious about your comment of the drum sander leaving the boards wavy though....I have a supermax 19-32 and it will sand things dead flat. And in my case its really a must have because you cant run end grain cutting boards through a jointer....or...well you can...but...boom.

Great machine though.