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Offline RickyL

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Stairs "floating" oak.
« on: November 06, 2016, 05:41 PM »
These are stairs in my master bedroom. It is split level so these divide the 2.

They are solid oak around the edges and ply veneer on top. (no shoes will ever see them)

I'm not a joiner, but do own a woodworking shop. I'd never operated any machines before doing these stairs.

Steel is more my thing, so I made them in steel first then clad them.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 01:19 PM by RickyL »
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Offline eddomak

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 07:58 PM »
Wow, that looks fantastic. I love how the LED's illuminate both the step underneath as well as the whole area underneath the staircase, which is typically quite dark and "forgotten".

Offline UKPaddlesports

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2016, 03:47 AM »
Looks totally stunning.. Dead jealous  [big grin]

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2016, 11:37 AM »
Amazing! Thanks for sharing this.
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Offline RickyL

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2016, 01:14 PM »
Thanks for the kind words.

Wow, that looks fantastic. I love how the LED's illuminate both the step underneath as well as the whole area underneath the staircase, which is typically quite dark and "forgotten".

The LED's light on sensors, so they light as you go up/down them. As tested here by my daughters.

« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 01:18 PM by RickyL »
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Offline rst

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 02:02 PM »
That is a fantastic work and design.  How many times did your daughter make the trip before tiring?  I can remember taking our daughters to San Fransico in the early 80's when they were small.  The hotel we stayed in had escalators that they saw for the first time.  I think we spent at least 25 minutes watching them go up and down before gettin to our rooms.

Offline RickyL

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2016, 02:24 PM »
haha,

They're still going up and down now.  ;)
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Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 02:51 PM »
Nice design! Clean and functional.. I'd have incopeerated a rail til assist balance though.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2016, 02:51 PM »
Nice...really nice job on the stairs. I really like the idea of using sensors. What type of sensor did you use? Where did you put the LED drivers?

I installed individual LEDs in a stainless railing about 8 years ago, that was before LED light strips were available. Each LED needed 2 wires run to it, so with 14 LEDs, there are 28 wires inside the railing, that was a huge mess to snake in-place and install. I put them all  on a 15 minute timer.

Offline RickyL

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 05:32 PM »
Nice design! Clean and functional.. I'd have incopeerated a rail til assist balance though.

The kids make them look a little less safe than they are. Me and the wife don't need a rail and can hold the bars. It would be hard to encorporate a rail. But you are right. If they were the main stairs they would need a rail.


Nice...really nice job on the stairs. I really like the idea of using sensors. What type of sensor did you use? Where did you put the LED drivers?

I installed individual LEDs in a stainless railing about 8 years ago, that was before LED light strips were available. Each LED needed 2 wires run to it, so with 14 LEDs, there are 28 wires inside the railing, that was a huge mess to snake in-place and install. I put them all  on a 15 minute timer.

That looks very nice, and I like the idea. What is the "switch" on the wall?

 Mine were strips, but still needed individually wiring. I cheated and purchased a controller. I cannot remember the name of it. But it came with PIR sensors and was pretty easy to instal and set up.


The bottom step is a drawer, I remove the drawer then the controller sits under the floor. I cut it on a taper so I can just drop it upside down into place.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 05:34 PM by RickyL »
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Offline Dubcraftee

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 09:40 PM »
Amazingly executed!

May I ask what that large bowl looking thing is at the bottom of the stairs?

Offline RickyL

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2016, 03:16 AM »
Thanks,

Its a natural stone bath, it weighs 650kg's. It was a nightmare to get in place.
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Offline antss

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2016, 09:06 AM »
Cheese's "switch" is a lighting control keypad - Insteon if I had to hazard a guess.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2016, 01:43 PM »
Cheese's "switch" is a lighting control keypad - Insteon if I had to hazard a guess.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.  [thumbs up]

@RickyL
Insteon manufactures a variety of switches that actuate other switches or modules strictly through RF communication. An Insteon 2-way or 3-way switch requires NO traveler wire, they're great for older construction where running additional wiring is problematic. The switch pads can be laser engraved for easy identification with your choice of nomenclature and they are illuminated. The dimmer switches have user adjustable ramp rates, so every variable can be changed through a computer. They're pretty slick.

For the stair lighting, electricity is provided to power the switches on the wall and electricity is provided to power the switches in the loft, however there is no physical wiring between any of the switches. Everything is actuated via RF communications.

In the existing bathroom, I wanted to install recessed lighting, and vanity lighting. I could install the lights and get power to the lights but it was impossible to connect all of the wiring to all of the switches that I needed, there simply wasn't enough room. The solution was to use remote control modules mounted in plastic outlet boxes that were installed behind the medicine cabinet and then actuate them through a 5-button key pad by using RF.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 01:47 PM by Cheese »

Offline RickyL

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2016, 04:02 PM »
Cheese's "switch" is a lighting control keypad - Insteon if I had to hazard a guess.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.  [thumbs up]

@RickyL
Insteon manufactures a variety of switches that actuate other switches or modules strictly through RF communication. An Insteon 2-way or 3-way switch requires NO traveler wire, they're great for older construction where running additional wiring is problematic. The switch pads can be laser engraved for easy identification with your choice of nomenclature and they are illuminated. The dimmer switches have user adjustable ramp rates, so every variable can be changed through a computer. They're pretty slick.

For the stair lighting, electricity is provided to power the switches on the wall and electricity is provided to power the switches in the loft, however there is no physical wiring between any of the switches. Everything is actuated via RF communications.

In the existing bathroom, I wanted to install recessed lighting, and vanity lighting. I could install the lights and get power to the lights but it was impossible to connect all of the wiring to all of the switches that I needed, there simply wasn't enough room. The solution was to use remote control modules mounted in plastic outlet boxes that were installed behind the medicine cabinet and then actuate them through a 5-button key pad by using RF.

Very nice. Are they a US based thing? I've not seen them here in the UK. I have "Lightwave" which is very similar by the sounds, but UK.

http://www.lightwaverf.com/solution/smart-home/
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Offline antss

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2016, 04:04 PM »
If I correctly guess what ICARO is - do I win a  Pro5 ?   8)

RickyL - Insteon is a radio frequency lighting control protocol that is DIY friendly. . Did you guys have X-10 back in the day ?

It's a poor man's Lutron Grafik Eye or RadioRa alternative. Which I know is available in London.  A quick peak at your link looks like the same thing though lightwave appears to be an upstart.

Insteon is available via AmazonUK , but I don't know if Insteon has infrastructure or support across the pond. 

« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 04:14 PM by antss »

Offline #Tee

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2016, 05:20 PM »
sick! one of the best projects on here
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2016, 10:37 PM »
If I correctly guess what ICARO is - do I win a  Pro5 ?

Umm, not tonight, with some others I may tango, but with you...I know...that you know.  [popcorn] 

Let's just both agree that Icaro was an incredible design statement and it will always be at the cutting edge of design, and will be compared to, and highly revered as a long lost sibling to the Bauhaus designs in the past.

just a point of interest...you know they've been discontinued...correct?

Have you seen what they've been trading for?
« Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 10:41 PM by Cheese »

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2016, 11:53 AM »
Very nice. Are they a US based thing? I've not seen them here in the UK. I have "Lightwave" which is very similar by the sounds, but UK.

FWIW...here's the keypad and the switching module I mentioned.

http://www.smarthome.com/insteon-2334-232-keypad-dimmer-switch-dual-band-6-button-white.html

http://www.smarthome.com/insteon-2443-222-micro-on-off-module.html

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2016, 06:25 PM »
@Cheese Looks like you could have a real party on those stairs with those lights!

Nice...really nice job on the stairs. I really like the idea of using sensors. What type of sensor did you use? Where did you put the LED drivers?

I installed individual LEDs in a stainless railing about 8 years ago, that was before LED light strips were available. Each LED needed 2 wires run to it, so with 14 LEDs, there are 28 wires inside the railing, that was a huge mess to snake in-place and install. I put them all  on a 15 minute timer.
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Offline antss

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2016, 06:31 PM »
"just a point of interest...you know they've been discontinued...correct? "

kinda like that pro5 , huh ?   [tongue]

Offline RickyL

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2016, 01:53 PM »
I don't even know what all this Pro 5 fuss is about over here in the UK.
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Offline antss

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2016, 07:49 PM »
@RickyL - pro5 is kinda an inside joke for us yanks. 

sander linky

In case you've not been at the FOG recently - this sander debuted and was offered for roughly 70 quid and it came with a 75 pound rebate on a future purchase.  The global supply was gone in a matter of hours and FT couldn't believe it.   ???

There are at least 25 pages of talk about it if you want a laugh or heartburn while reading with your Scotch.  People are still torqued out about not being able to get one or having to wait until end of Q1 -2017 to take delivery.  And some are torqued about their country not getting a promotion at all. 
« Last Edit: November 11, 2016, 08:17 PM by antss »

Offline RickyL

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2016, 07:55 PM »
Was it a mistake? So effectively people were getting it for free?

Shame I missed out on that deal!  [laughing]
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Offline antss

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2016, 08:15 PM »
@RickyL

Was it a mistake depends on your perspective.  The price was not a an oversight if that's what you're asking.  The promo did not have the effect FT intended though.  Was generally a headache for everyone except two hundred or so people; I'm guessing.

Deal wasn't available to you or anyone else outside the U.S. and Canada.

You really should read the PRO5 thread(s) here because it will become lore around here for years to come.

Offline Dubcraftee

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2016, 09:08 PM »
Thanks,

Its a natural stone bath, it weighs 650kg's. It was a nightmare to get in place.

Thanks! It's definitely intriguing and eye catching

Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2016, 08:19 AM »
Very nice work mate
Lots of the green stuff :))

Offline Cheese

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2016, 10:27 AM »
@Cheese Looks like you could have a real party on those stairs with those lights!

Hey @Edward A Reno III , it looks more dramatic in a photo than in real life.  [eek]  The LED's actually appear to be more white than blue/purple. However, it is a nice feature when you need to go downstairs in the middle of the night. The lights are on a 15 minute timer so one button push is all you need, after that, they take care of themselves.
The light level is low enough and focused enough not to disturb the wife or the members of the in-house petting zoo.  [thumbs up]

Offline chris s

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2016, 08:13 AM »
Truly Amazing! Is the metal an inverted pan with stiffeners?

Offline Lbob131

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Re: Stairs "floating" oak.
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2016, 06:40 AM »
Nice stairs  but  not that safe  with no hand rails.
And if your   like me  this year with broken  legs  from two  separate building site falls  off roofs   then two  hand   rails  are important.
When you get old and infirm that's another matter.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 06:45 AM by Lbob131 »