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Offline Peter Lloyd

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MW 1000 clone
« on: July 18, 2019, 03:58 PM »
Hi,
Just thought I would share my latest build, an MW 1000 clone made from 4040 aluminium profile.










Hope it's of interest, any questions let me know.

Peter

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Offline ear3

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2019, 04:08 PM »
Brilliant!  Have you modified the rail bracket and fence so that it can fit on those extrusions?
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Offline six-point socket II

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2019, 04:15 PM »
Impressive!

Kind regards,
Oliver
Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline jonnyrocket

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2019, 05:06 PM »
What was the cost for all the materials?

Offline Peter Lloyd

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2019, 05:33 PM »
Brilliant!  Have you modified the rail bracket and fence so that it can fit on those extrusions?

No, I  tend to use bench dogs with rails, I haven't found a need for the bracket and fence,  it shouldn't be a major issue but I'll have a look.

Peter

Offline Peter Lloyd

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2019, 05:44 PM »
What was the cost for all the materials?

It has come out a bit more than I had hoped, the whole thing has come on around £400 ($500), but the handle aluminium and corner pieces were quite expensive, a cheaper alternative would have saved around £50 ($60).

It depends on the cost of materials where you are for reference I use KJN Aluminium in the UK, this would give you a comparison point to assess the costs anywhere else. Ebay might also prove a better starting point.

http://www.aluminium-profile.co.uk/acatalog/Aluminium_Profile_with_10mm_Slot.html

It's worked out about a 35% saving, but that wasn't really the point, I wanted to build one myself.
Peter

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2019, 05:53 PM »
Very nice!

  Welcome to the forum!  [smile]

Seth

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2019, 07:51 PM »
@ Peter Lloyd said “but that wasn't really the point, I wanted to build one myself.”

Well done!

Offline George Oliver

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2019, 09:37 PM »
Wow, excellent job! I'm curious what parts were not sourced from the profile supplier?

Offline neilc

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2019, 10:43 PM »
That's excellent.  Looks more sturdy than the MW 1000, and I like the way the holes line up when they are connected!

Great job and welcome to FOG!


Offline Peter Lloyd

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2019, 03:50 AM »
Wow, excellent job! I'm curious what parts were not sourced from the profile supplier?

The wheels, which I managed to get from a local recycling place, the extension table leg, which is from a child's high chair, and the MDF tops, are the main items. The plates holding the wheels and handles are 10mm aluminium plate, and some of the bolts, brackets, the feet,  and spring loaded pins were sourced fro Ebay.

Peter
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Offline Peter Lloyd

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2019, 04:07 AM »
Very nice!

  Welcome to the forum!  [smile]

Seth
Many thanks Seth, I had been lurking in the shadows for some time, but didn't have anything relevant to offer until now.

Peter

Offline Peter Lloyd

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2019, 04:15 AM »
That's excellent.  Looks more sturdy than the MW 1000, and I like the way the holes line up when they are connected!

Great job and welcome to FOG!

The hole spacing was one of the criticisms of the original Festool product that I  wanted to address, along with the plastic base that I don't  consider to be a great design choice. The downside to that is that it left me fighting weight, as I wanted it to be the same as the MW, in fact I  have come out three or four pounds on the wrong side, though the table is correspondingly lighter.
I have a couple of ideas to trim the weight out, some 4040 is lighter in section, and I  experimented with 4040 for the upright instead of 4080. That increased the deflection in the top from 2mm to about 4mm under an 80kg load, probably perfectly acceptable, and probably still better than the MW1000, but in the end I decided it would be better to get fitter.

Peter

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2019, 07:30 AM »
Do you mean bending of the actual long table or overall deflection of the long/short table due to the absence of vertical support at the long/short joint?

If the actual extrusions is bending you might try 40-4082 lite

Offline Peter Lloyd

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2019, 02:38 PM »
No, it's the deflection of the actual cart table that I was thinking about, which is only supported at one end, the festool table is rated at 100kgs maximum load, I was concerned that my effort might suffer from too much 'sag' if it had a heavy load on it, but 1 or 2 mm is hardly noticeable. I would like to know how much the Festool version bends of loaded.
Peter

Offline sandy

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2019, 10:55 AM »
Peter, this looks great!  I’ve seen many posts on here that speak of using 4040 aluminum profile, but for the most part they all relate to making MFT type tables, and I already have two of them.  Your post appears to address some of the issues that I’ve had with the MFTC that I built a while ago, and it looks like something worthy of both learning to use 4040 and an application for the new SYS-AZ units that I have.  Do you have plans and parts list that you can share?

Sandy

Offline Peter Lloyd

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Re: MW 1000 clone
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2019, 05:38 PM »
Peter, this looks great!  I’ve seen many posts on here that speak of using 4040 aluminum profile, but for the most part they all relate to making MFT type tables, and I already have two of them.  Your post appears to address some of the issues that I’ve had with the MFTC that I built a while ago, and it looks like something worthy of both learning to use 4040 and an application for the new SYS-AZ units that I have.  Do you have plans and parts list that you can share?

Sandy

Hi Sandy, I  don't have any plans as such, as I was making it up as I went along. If you're looking to waste an hour or two there are half a dozen build videos on my YouTube channel, the MW 1000 clone are all listed in a playlist.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgwpMoEbmyc6Dw4Hl5W1XIQ

There's also a build of an under bench storage cart for under the MFT3, which gives more detail on joining the 4040 sections. If it will help I'm more than happy to list out the sizes of the sections for you, but it's very easy to adapt it to suit your needs. I can also sketch out the connecting plates which carry the wheels and handle, and point you in the right direction for the other components.

If any of this helps feel free to email me at thesmallshed2019@gmail.com to clarify anything you need and I can then send photos, spreadsheets etc.
Regards
Peter