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Offline ryanjg117

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2019, 02:20 AM »
Good to hear the quick cycles have not been a problem with your cyclone, also suspect it will depend on the quality of the machine which in your case is not a concern.

I think it has less to do with the quality of the machine/motor and more with the size of the motor... I recall that large motors should be run a minimum of 5-10 minutes, but I can't seem to find the source.

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Offline jonathan-m

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2019, 03:44 AM »
@nicemac

I am in the middle of doing much the same with Kapex. Currently using a Oneida Dust Cobra on the Kapex port and other smaller tools...

How does a Dust Cobra perform on the Kapex, do you see any improvement over a Festool CT or shopvac?
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Offline nicemac

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2019, 08:54 AM »

What are you using for a stop with your t track?
 I purchased the Kreg setup some time ago, with both stops....when I said sliding fence, I more meant sliding it back out of the way on t tracks behind kapex fence.  I have a six foot table to left of saw, and seems like lots of folks keep a fence in line with Kapex fence....works fine unless you are cutting something not straight yet....hence I like your idea, or the ability to move the kreg fence back a bit but still be able to use the stops. I have not installed on new miter station yet...still pondering....lol
Thanks again for sharing your ideas.
Greg

I use one of these two, depending on the circumstance:
https://www.incra.com/jig_fixture-build-it_system-brackets.html
https://www.incra.com/jig_fixture-build-it_system-clamp.html
I keep the bracket sitting beside the track at all times, and that is my go-to. Occasionally, I will use the clamp, with a small piece of scrap, if the stop needs to be in that no-man's lad between the end of the track and the area that can be reached by the Festool clamp on the saw.


I think it has less to do with the quality of the machine/motor and more with the size of the motor... I recall that large motors should be run a minimum of 5-10 minutes, but I can't seem to find the source.
Never heard that one. I cannot think of any scenario where a motor would need to be run for a specified minimum time. I DO leave it running 5-10 seconds after a cut to clear the sawdust from the plumbing.

Offline harry_

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2019, 05:50 PM »
Good to hear the quick cycles have not been a problem with your cyclone, also suspect it will depend on the quality of the machine which in your case is not a concern.

I think it has less to do with the quality of the machine/motor and more with the size of the motor... I recall that large motors should be run a minimum of 5-10 minutes, but I can't seem to find the source.

I know that my well pump manufacturer says that I should have enough storage capacity in the system so that the pump motor runs for 1 full minute at a minimum.
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Offline gnlman

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2019, 07:57 PM »
thanks for the info nicemac...looks like a good setup for repeatable cuts, and keeps your table surface flat for putting stuff on....lol...

jonathan-m - I'd say it collects a bit more than my CT36, but it also has almost twice the suction. Still small amount of debris on table ect hence my interest in this thread...I'd like to think it's collecting more of the dust..but no way to measure that...I'm of the opinion the small chunks of leftover debris is not what hurts your lungs, just the dust...which the cobra achieves. It's also nice as you can hook up a small piping system to other tools due to the extra cfm. I have pipe running over to the corner of my cutting table so hose comes from ceiling. In process of adding drops back to my drill press, and my table top ridgid sander as well. I've been really happy with Cobra, it's well made, only slightly louder than CT36 and no where near the screaming sound of my shopvac...Hepa filter and a pulse arm to reverse flow to clean filter....very nice unit.

I have a small table saw at end of cutting table as well that I use for narrow cuts..mostly melamine. Having the festool hose right there hooked up to piping also allows me to double up on dust collection on table saw...big dust collector for undercabinet collection and festool hose for collecting above blade. I have a "temp" type pipe for overhead collection on table saw...works ok not great....was just in process of placing order for shark gaurd, but I heard the sharkgaurd owner (Lee) passed away during the holidays...have not made inquiry yet out of respect for his family at this time.....
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Offline dlu

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2019, 10:47 PM »
Good to hear the quick cycles have not been a problem with your cyclone, also suspect it will depend on the quality of the machine which in your case is not a concern.

I think it has less to do with the quality of the machine/motor and more with the size of the motor... I recall that large motors should be run a minimum of 5-10 minutes, but I can't seem to find the source.

I think that is generally applicable to high-inertia / slow to spin up motors. The starting current inrush doesn't taper off until the motor comes up to speed so there can be quite a lot of heating during startups. Dust collectors fall into this category due to the mass of the impeller. A motor made for frequent starts with a high inertia load will be physical larger with heavier windings and may also have provision for forced air cooling - since a fan on the motor shaft is not at full efficiency as the motor is coming up to speed. Strange what one remembers from the depths of bygone careers - in my case an industrial electrician working on big cranes and 4000 HP car shredders... I think Bill Pentz also mentions it somewhere on his web site.

Offline nicemac

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2023, 12:20 PM »
UPDATE: I know this is a super old thread, but after 11 years of use, I still would not change anything about this design. It has truly stood the test of time.

I built a game table for my oldest son for Christmas and had some dust after I finished the crosscuts. WTH?  :o Turns out, I had a blast gate open across the shop. Even with a 4" hole across the shop, this setup still captured most (not all) of the dust. That is probably more of a testament to the ClearVue cyclone than my setup, but the combo works well together.


Offline Picktool

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2023, 02:47 PM »
Pictures or it stopped happening  [big grin]
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Offline SoonerFan

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Re: Kapex Workstation
« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2023, 09:20 AM »
UPDATE: I know this is a super old thread, but after 11 years of use, I still would not change anything about this design. It has truly stood the test of time.

I built a game table for my oldest son for Christmas and had some dust after I finished the crosscuts. WTH?  :o Turns out, I had a blast gate open across the shop. Even with a 4" hole across the shop, this setup :) still captured most (not all) of the dust. That is probably more of a testament to the ClearVue cyclone than my setup, but the combo works well together.

Thread is old but contains valuable information and is an excellent contribution to FOG.  I have had a Kapex and the mobile stand/wings for about a decade.  All three have served me well and the portability is great.  After a couple more projects it will be mostly used in the shop so I am planning to build a permanent miter station with cabinets.  I will make at least one adjustment in my build.  I will “drill” all the holes for the downdraft on the CNC :)