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Offline Bob D.

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Hive Handholds
« on: May 25, 2022, 06:30 PM »
My BIL is getting interested in beekeeping and asked if I could build him
some hives. I figured can't be too difficult so I said sure.

I've noticed that many hives have a handhold like this and wondering
about methods to duplicate this handhold.

Anyone built hives or made a similar handhold in a drawer possibly?

TIA
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2022, 06:41 PM »
I'm not seeing a pic?

I generally do hand-grip cutouts with a cove bit in the router table.
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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2022, 01:49 AM »
DOH !
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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2022, 07:44 AM »
Looks like a custom setup to me, tough to replicate DIY. The upper edge isnt radiused which it assume is key functionally.

Closest I can think of, without going over the top, is to just plunge cut with a router. If you want the gradual slope top to bottom maybe a modified jig similar to one for scarfing?

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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2022, 08:03 AM »
Looks like a saw cut to me. Plunge to give it that straight cut at the top then tilted to make the scoop. could be some type of ramp set up to. the top cut should give a tell if the top cut is square to the face it was probably plunge and tilt if there is a slight angle to it then there was probably some typed of ramped sled used.

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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2022, 08:08 AM »
well mystery solved method 1 was correct.  Here is a video showing the process


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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2022, 08:36 AM »
well mystery solved method 1 was correct.  Here is a video showing the process



Whadid we do before youtube?

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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2022, 09:48 AM »
Thanks @afish , that shows me a way to accomplish this fairly easily.

And thank you Richard for your thoughts too.

After watching the video and a couple others I am thinking I might be able to use my RAS to make this cut. Turn the blade 90° and push it toward the RAS fence with the side of the box clamped in a holding jig to keep it from moving.
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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2022, 10:09 AM »
i dont know what a RAS is but it reminded me of how they used to route those drainage channels next to a kitchen sink in solid surface. any type of ramp fixture that allows that slow ramp feed should work. I did like how he used a dado stack so a large portion of the thickest part of waste is already gone from the half inch kerf

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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2022, 12:40 PM »
So, you tube is now sending me a bunch of videos about bee hive handles...I had no idea this was such a thing it seems like this is pretty much standard for hive handles.  Either way this video shows what I was originally picturing in my head. 


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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2022, 01:01 PM »
i dont know what a RAS is but it reminded me of how they used to route those drainage channels next to a kitchen sink in solid surface. any type of ramp fixture that allows that slow ramp feed should work. I did like how he used a dado stack so a large portion of the thickest part of waste is already gone from the half inch kerf

RAS Radial Arm Saw. You know, the thing that everybody cuts their arm off with.
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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2022, 02:59 PM »
Ah, yes that makes sense I was only thinking along the festool line up. I thought festool made some type of RAS (not a radial arm saw) I didnt know anyone still used one of those.

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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2022, 06:22 PM »
Ah, yes that makes sense I was only thinking along the festool line up. I thought festool made some type of RAS (not a radial arm saw) I didnt know anyone still used one of those.

Yes, RAS115. I have one and use it frequently. It has become the replacement for the Porter-Cable mini belt sander that they discontinued. It's basically an angle grinder with a sanding pad, rather than a hard wheel.
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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2022, 07:31 PM »
Ah, yes that makes sense I was only thinking along the festool line up. I thought festool made some type of RAS (not a radial arm saw) I didnt know anyone still used one of those.

I keep mine only because it is great for hogging out big dados or half laps in 2x material. I keep a dado set in it all the time and have not used it for anything else for at least 10 years.

Bought it new back in 83 and got the safety upgrade kit for it years ago when Emerson offered it under the recall program. That was a good deal. New 1" MDF top, new (much better) guard, new handle plus some other goodies and a updated manual for the saw with the new guard. Filled out form online, only the serial number was required to qualify. Five days later I had a huge box on my doorstep with all the new parts.
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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2022, 05:28 PM »
We had one in the old shop. It was a great big thing that could cross-cut something like 30"? They used it in the countertop department to cut the usual 25" slabs. When we moved the vertical panel saw closer to that area, they started using that instead and removed the RAS. It was eating a ton of space in their area. It got sold off. I don't remember the brand? Italian, I think? M something
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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2022, 07:08 PM »
Well if your handhold don't have to be perfect and you can handle the dust, you could do that with a RAS115 or a disk grinder.

Might be messy and less than perfect, but people do create chairs with scooped seats with them.  Also a bit safer that spinning saw teeth.

Just a thought.

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Re: Hive Handholds
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2022, 08:23 PM »
Well if your handhold don't have to be perfect and you can handle the dust, you could do that with a RAS115 or a disk grinder.

Might be messy and less than perfect, but people do create chairs with scooped seats with them.  Also a bit safer that spinning saw teeth.

Just a thought.

Peter

Yes, I was thinking that might work. I thought one of those carving discs might work well too.
My brain was concocting some Rube Goldberg contraption using an old 4.5" angle grinder on
a swing arm with a jig to hold the wood at the correct angle.
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