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Offline mattbyington

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[Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« on: November 15, 2022, 09:55 PM »
Hey everyone!

Hope everyone is well! It's been a crazy year for me. Our son Ethan (our first) was born 3/29 of this year and he has been keeping us very, very busy. We also moved houses in June which was a lot of work with Ethan, but worth it to get more space.

I got the shop setup when we moved (moving those tools was a pain!) but haven't done woodworking since Ethan was born!

This week I'm easing back into it with a simple vinyl storage cabinet for my Dad!

Hope everyone is well!

Matt






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Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2022, 09:59 PM »
Here was the shop when we moved in :)


Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2022, 10:00 PM »
Before moving in I:

1) New epoxy floor
2) 9x American Green Lights
3) Full electrical, dedicated 220 for every tool + DC + quad 120 outlets everywhere
4) Paint
5) Ductless mini split


Offline Cheese

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2022, 12:22 AM »
Well this will be interesting Matt...a very timely subject as I've just started to resurrect the old stereo equipment starting with a Thorens TD125 turntable with a SME 3009 arm.

There's a faction of our society that insists that carefully pressed vinyl records are sonically superior to the latest digital sources...I suspect your father is one of those people.


Offline Svar

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2022, 12:29 AM »
There's a faction of our society that insists that carefully pressed vinyl records are sonically superior to the latest digital sources...I suspect your father is one of those people.
No, just no. "Vinyl records are sonically superior" is a meaningless expression which translates as "I'm old and nostalgic".

Offline Cheese

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2022, 12:38 AM »
No, just no. "Vinyl records are sonically superior" is a meaningless expression which translates as "I'm old and nostalgic".

Well you're right about that subject on so many counts... [smile]...but I'm still interested in the concept. I can't believe it but I want to hear it with my own faltering ears...

Who'd have thought.  [smile]

Offline luvmytoolz

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2022, 12:50 AM »
No, just no. "Vinyl records are sonically superior" is a meaningless expression which translates as "I'm old and nostalgic".

Well you're right about that subject on so many counts... [smile]...but I'm still interested in the concept. I can't believe it but I want to hear it with my own faltering ears...

Who'd have thought.  [smile]

It's not only about the sound quality, it's also the lived experiences from around the time the LP's were bought. For me the 70's/80's were pretty awesome decades for music, and everyone very frequently went to see bands and concerts as a matter or routine. And bands were far more accessible than they are now, so you had the chance to actually mix with them at some venues. I have a huge amount of vinyl, and my daughter actually bought me Dark Side Of The Moon for last Father's Day which I'm absolutely stoked about!

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2022, 01:02 AM »
Welcome back, Matt, and welcome to the fatherhood club!  Many congratulations!

Also congrats on the new digs.  Glad to see you're keeping the shop up to the standards of the old shop in terms of orderliness and cleanliness!

Can't wait to see how this one turns out!

Offline rvieceli

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2022, 06:12 AM »
Was thinking about you the other day and wondering how things were going. Welcome back.

The shop looks great. It looks bigger than your last spot.

If you haven't already done so, you might want to stick a CO2 detector in there somewhere since you have that gas unit in the garage.

Ron
« Last Edit: November 16, 2022, 06:14 AM by rvieceli »

Offline derekcohen

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2022, 06:55 PM »
Well this will be interesting Matt...a very timely subject as I've just started to resurrect the old stereo equipment starting with a Thorens TD125 turntable with a SME 3009 arm.

There's a faction of our society that insists that carefully pressed vinyl records are sonically superior to the latest digital sources...I suspect your father is one of those people.

About a year ago, I went through a complete re-build of my Thorens TD150, re-build of a Rega RB300 arm, and still using a Supex 900 mkIV moving coil. The photo below includes a new vinyl top. The Jarrah bases are in an article on my website.

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/NotReallyFurniture.html



I built all the furniture in this picture …



Together with Devialet amp …



Regards from Perth

Derek



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Offline Lincoln

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2022, 08:59 PM »
Lovely work, Derek.

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2022, 09:26 PM »
Beautiful work.

When I had my picture framing shop, there was a service I used that made custom acrylic enclosures for displays.

I never found out how they did it, but after they mitered and joined the panels, it appeared entirely seamless.  I knew ther was a joint there, but the actual seam was invisible.

It looked like you achieved the same thing.  How is that done.  I always assumed that the miters were cut on a milling machine, and then joined the edges, but I never found out for certain.

(I do know how to flame polish the cut edges though.  It took some practice, but easy to do once you get the knack of it. Perfectly polished edges in minutes.  It was pretty amazing).  But the invisible seams eluded me.

Offline Yardbird

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2022, 09:54 PM »
I splurged on a Thorens turntable in my college days.  It was either 1972 or 73 bought from PLAYBACK. Thorens TD160 with a Stanton 681EE stylus.  My son has it now-and all of my albums.  I think it tracked at a gram so albums are still in good shape.  I guess a Thorens turntable would be the equivalent of Festool in the stereo world. Nice to see that old stuff still ticking.   

Offline Cheese

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2022, 12:00 AM »
Not wanting to derail this thread, given the amount of interest recently in older & current hi-fi equipment, maybe this subject needs its own subject heading similar to photography?

@Peter Halle
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2022, 07:35 AM »
Welcome back @mattbyington . Believe it or not, now is when you will have the most time to do projects if you ever decide to have a second child. I remember thinking when we just had one how am I going to get anything done but I was always in the garage for hours. Now with two it's more like "I have 15 minutes before anyone realizes I'm not in the house what can be done before they do."

Great shop space. Wish I had that kind of room.

Matt
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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2022, 06:11 PM »
Welcome back, great looking canvas to build upon.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2022, 10:16 PM »

About a year ago, I went through a complete re-build of my Thorens TD150, re-build of a Rega RB300 arm, and still using a Supex 900 mkIV moving coil. The photo below includes a new vinyl top. The Jarrah bases are in an article on my website.


That's absolutely beautiful @derekcohen ...did the solid wood plinth make a difference with the sound from the Thorens and if so, how would you characterize the change?

I'm also interested in your thoughts about your acrylic isolator base.

That goofy spring suspension seemed to always be an issue, sometimes too much and then sometimes not enough...I even tried to suspend the entire turntable from the ceiling with springs and that worked...until it didn't.  [smile]


Offline derekcohen

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2022, 09:58 AM »

About a year ago, I went through a complete re-build of my Thorens TD150, re-build of a Rega RB300 arm, and still using a Supex 900 mkIV moving coil. The photo below includes a new vinyl top. The Jarrah bases are in an article on my website.


That's absolutely beautiful @derekcohen ...did the solid wood plinth make a difference with the sound from the Thorens and if so, how would you characterize the change?

I'm also interested in your thoughts about your acrylic isolator base.

That goofy spring suspension seemed to always be an issue, sometimes too much and then sometimes not enough...I even tried to suspend the entire turntable from the ceiling with springs and that worked...until it didn't.  [smile]

My apology, Matt. I'll answer this question, then hope the thread returns to your build.

The context for isolation is relevant. The drawers in the Jarrah campaign chests run the danger of resonating like speakers. The turntable sits on one, and vibrations could affect the turntable plinth, run along the arm to the cartridge. All this would muddy the sound. Resonance would be worse if the floors were suspended floor boards. Fortunately, they are solid Jarrah on concrete.

It is not only the turntable which is affected by vibration, but the audio components as well: amplifier, CD player, streamer. All these needed to be isolated.

The audio components sit on shelves in sorbothane isolation feet, and the shelves are decoupled from the case as they sit on pins.

The choice of acrylic for the turntable armboard is that it absorbs vibrations well - much better than MDF. The thick Jarrah plinth adds quite a bit of extra mass, and the platter and inside is damped with sound panels. The armboard is further protected from vibrations in the Thorens design, which uses springs as suspension. I spent quite a bit of time replacing the springs and then tuning the "bounce" optimally. The turntable uses IsaAcoustic IsoPucks as feet. Finally, the isolation platform is acrylic suspended to further isolate it from vibrations which may be transmitted via the cabinet.

As one can see, every aspect of the design of the turntable and the housing of audio components is geared towards minimising vibration and unwanted resonance.

Does it work? Well, I can tap quite forcefully on the cabinet and this does not affect the sound at all. Ditto the audio components. Of these, the CD player tray is susceptible to vibrations, and these impact on the stability of the laser.

The CD player is an Oppo Blu-Ray player. The amplifier is a Devialet Expert 120, the streamer is by Cambridge Audio CXN 2, and the speakers are Kef LS50 Meta with a Kef KC62 subwoofer. The cartridge is a Supex 900 mkIV. This is not an expensive system. I listen mainly to Jazz and Blues, and the sound is detailed, spacious and has great dimensionality.

I shall not go into the speaker cables, interconnects and mains cables, all custom made, as you will think me crazy :)

Regards from Perth

Derek

« Last Edit: November 19, 2022, 10:11 AM by derekcohen »
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Offline Alanbach

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2022, 10:39 AM »
Congratulations on the birth of your son Matt, that’s very exciting stuff! I had been wondering where you had been and this explains it perfectly. Also a new home with more space is great. Patti and I are in our third home in almost 40 years of marriage and each move allowed for the shop space to advance. What I have now is the same size as the first house but that is where the similarities end. It’s fun to get to dial it in and get it just how you want it. Again, congratulations!

Offline Vtshopdog

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Re: [Project 49] Walnut Vinyl Record Storage
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2022, 03:10 PM »
After reading Cheese and Derek Cohen posts decide to start a thread where individuals can post audio discussions without derailing threads.  I love stereo stuff and there is nice overlap with woodworking and it's clear there are others here sharing the same.

Anyone interested is invited to post there - I'm sure with all the individual skills on this site there are more than a few beautiful projects to be shared

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/general-friendly-chat/post-your-audio-projects-pics-questions-and-issues-here/

Congrats to Matt on new child "ownership" [big grin]