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Offline mattbyington

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[Project 44] Maple Dining Table & Benches
« on: June 27, 2021, 10:25 PM »
My wife requested a new dining table. It is going to match the home bar I built recently.

(Link to home bar build):
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/member-projects/(project-41)-curly-maple-home-bar/

I have 200 b.f. of maple in 8/4 thickness, and I have the design done.

Should be a fun build!


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Offline mattbyington

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Offline tallgrass

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2021, 01:54 AM »
You have  a reclining chair in your workshop? That is just  plain taunting. :)

Considering your joinery, have you heard or read of the work from Maloof? On the serious side.


Numbering your projects just rubs it in.

Offline notenoughcash

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Re: [Project 44] Maple Dining Table & Benches
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2021, 04:27 AM »
out of interest how long have you been woodworking?

and you have to many tools for your own good.  you need to give some to me [big grin]
turns out that woodworking is 1% making things you'll use, 4% making bespoke high end firewood, 15% cleaning, and 80% looking for the bl**dy thing you just put down
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Offline Vondawg

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2021, 06:51 AM »
Recliner? How bout folding camp chair.
Great looking Matt! Thanks for the nice pics too…you’re keeping busy!
There are no mistakes....just new designs.

Offline tallgrass

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2021, 04:42 PM »
I was talking about the folding chair. I am just giving him grief. Amazing work, fantastic work ethic and now he is taunting us with comfort.  [big grin]

Offline mattbyington

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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2021, 07:48 PM »
@tallgrass the numbering makes it easy for me to search or point people to the forum :) if they ask on Instagram or something for more pictures. I have heard of Maloof! Famous chair designer right? I know a lot of people make pieces in that style.

@notenoughcash about 3-4 years now! Haha. I do like my tools, you're not wrong there.

@Vondawg thank you sir! Appreciate it!

@tallgrass hahah the chair is really nice when I want to sit down in the shop...there's nowhere else to sit and if it's 6-8 hours down there sometimes I get tired and need a few minutes to rest!

Matt

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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2021, 08:42 PM »
Great job Matt.

Glad to see it made it into the home.

Tom

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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2021, 09:48 PM »
Look great!   I e. Lean design.
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Offline rmhinden

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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2021, 10:03 PM »
Matt,

Very nice work!   I am glad your cat approves :-)

Bob

Offline tallgrass

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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2021, 12:41 AM »
Keep up the great work.  Why did you use so much of the origin tape? I would not think you would have to surround the cutting area like that.  I also have changed my workflow with the shaper Origin, a kind of hybrid approach.  I will use the Origin to  do the detail edge work, then come in with a much heaver router to hog out the rest of the material. In your example, I would use the origin to cut out the outline of your glass pocket to the tune of 1/2 an inch, then come in and hog away all the interior material, with a much larger robust bit, in a much larger router. Just a thought. 2 cents. :)

Offline rvieceli

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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2021, 07:01 AM »
Very nice Matt. Looks great in your space.

Ron

Offline Cheese

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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2021, 10:08 AM »
Really nice job Matt... [big grin]...I also like how you softened the design just a little bit with the radiused parts. It's still a very modern design that's had the edge (figuratively & actually) taken off.  It also looks cleaner without the additional braces of the original design.

Offline mattbyington

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2021, 12:10 PM »
@tjbnwi thanks Tom!

@Don T thanks Don!

@rmhinden thanks man! Hahaha yes she was exploring it. I think it still smelled like finish.

@tallgrass thanks man! Good question. I probably could have used less. I was a little worried about the top. This was a lot of hard work for me and it was a really nice solid top, and I had to cut into it with Shaper! I didn't want to risk a bad cut and ruining the top just because I was being stingy on the tape. OK so with the larger router, GREAT point. I actually tried this. My hand router is a Festool OF1400. I installed a larger bit on it and here was the issue. The base of the OF1400 is significantly smaller than the base of the Shaper Origin. The Shaper Origin is quite large. I was a little worried about the router tipping inside of the pocket. Because the Festool router couldn't span the full 6" width, I was really worried it would tip. The Shaper Origin just barely smaller, was able to "ride" on the top or bottom of the 6" strip almost 100% of the time. Now obviously I could have been smart and routed the pocket in a spiral fashion from the inside, or something like that, to avoid this problem, but I was worried I'd get myself into a situation where I had to cut something out in the middle I missed. Anyways, it probably could have worked. I did though after this process order a flattening bit with 1" cut diameter from BitsBits with a 1/4" shank, for the Shaper. Shaper is underpowered for that bit but just turn the speed down and take shallow passes is my hope. I think it'll go way faster than the 1/4" bit I used.

@rvieceli Thanks Ron!

@Cheese thank you sir! Thank you so much. You have a good eye. Those are two big points. I had to line up my round-over bits for the wife so she could choose. I did samples for her on a scrap. She really wanted the smallest possible round-over to keep the lines clean, exactly what you said. I think I went with a 1/4" radius IIRC. And yes the brace pieces were a big discussion with me and her. I ended up building it without them obviously, and we put it in the floor of the garage. I had her stand at one of the smaller ends with her feet firmly planted right next to the bottom of the legs. I then pushed towards and away from her from the opposite end of the table at the very top. The idea was for me to see if the table racked at all to decide if the braces were needed. It was rock solid. I think largely due to the double-domino joints and everything is glued (except the top of course) and that all the pieces are solid 1.5" thick.

Thanks so much everyone! Starting in the benches now...

Matt

Offline tallgrass

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Re: [Project 44] Maple Dining Table & Benches
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2021, 12:28 PM »
On the router side, I use a larger plexy base that I have made. I find larger bases are much more useful. With a CNC, you can make several size bases and swap them out easily. I have made several for my 1400, using the quick change ring. I love it. Not that you need any advise. Great work.

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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2021, 12:50 PM »
Matt, you can use the parallel guide for the rails to add stability to the router with a 5mm spacer under it to keep the base level with the top.  Much easier than making extra bases that need taken on and off.  Before I bought my Festool routers I have a PC 7518 that I made a large base with a vertical handle that let me edge rout on 2'x2' 3/8" acrylic pieces quickly on a vacuum base.   Anyone interested in that router, it's for sale.  Actually have two as these were great beasts.  The other lives in my original router table.

Offline mattbyington

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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2021, 03:22 PM »
@tallgrass that's a great idea. Thank you. I will make some!

@rst another great idea. Thanks so much. I'll try it out!!

OK team ... the benches were finally made (took awhile) and this piece is 100% done. Pics below:

Matt

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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2021, 03:42 PM »
WOW  [eek]

Nice way to use the Shaper Origin for those pads!

I'll let someone else make a crack about how clean your shop is and how you could have probably eaten off of those benches from start to finish throughout the project picture progression.  Oh, wait, I think I just did anyway... ;)

What did you use for the thin kerf around the inside of the top where you put the seat brackets?  Run it over a table saw (I can't remember if you have a table saw or just a track saw), use a cutter on a router, or a thin plunge bit on a router?

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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2021, 04:00 PM »
Very nice Matt. Great finish to your project. Benches look good. I like the way they fit under the table.

Ron