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Offline mattbyington

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My first time utilizing Blum's tandem drawers slides! Should be fun.

Also my first time really using the bandsaw for anything - which is my first time tapering legs! So many new techniques. I am TERRIBLE at using it, but hey, gotta start somewhere.

What I *am* happy with is how my miters are coming out. Only took me 2 years to get decent miters, oh well!

Matt




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Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
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Offline mattbyington

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Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
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Offline lshah72414

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2020, 04:43 PM »
Matt,

Love those colors. That is going to be sweet!

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2020, 05:02 PM »
Hey Matt,
anybody can buy nice tools
but not everybody can do nice work with them.
Your efforts show results! - my hat's off to you.

enjoy the work and the results!

Hans

Offline Lincoln

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2020, 05:20 PM »
No offence, but you shouldn't capture that panel in a frame. At best, your (very nice) mitres will start opening.

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2020, 05:50 PM »
@lshah72414 thank you!

@TSO Products thanks Hans! Really appreciate it man!

@Lincoln thank you so much for the feedback. I am always looking to learn more and get better. I agree with you 100% - probably not a good idea. I think you're right. I've been experimenting with this over the years, to see what happens. For me, it usually depends on where the resting place of the final piece will go. For example this one is going to my friend's house in a climate controlled home (in his bedroom). We live in northern california (Bay Area) which sees very little humidity year-round, and fairly constant temperatures. So his home will probably only see 10 degrees or so of changes around the year, with heating and cooling of course.

But, your point is well-taken and I very well might be regretting my choice in the future. Time will tell. I'll use it as a learning exercise and after all that work I put into them, I'll know not to do it again! Ha!

Matt

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2020, 06:10 PM »
@mattbyington,

If you have any questions about or issues with the drawer slides let me know. I purchase them by the pallet, the job we’re doing now will use 298 pairs of Tandem slides.

Tom

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2020, 06:16 PM »
@mattbyington,

If you have any questions about or issues with the drawer slides let me know. I purchase them by the pallet, the job we’re doing now will use 298 pairs of Tandem slides.

Tom

298 pair?!!  Tom,  you can not drop that bomb and walk away.  What could you possible be building?  I think I speak for everyone here, we want to hear all about it but perhaps best in a new thread.  Sorry for the hijack, Matt.  Nice work!  Looking forward to seeing more.

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2020, 06:34 PM »
@tjbnwi wow!! that is a lot! i might take you up on it. my first time working with them. i heard they're great, but a little bit of a learning curve...

@Jim Kirkpatrick don't be sorry! hijack away, now I am curious too :)

Matt

Offline mrFinpgh

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2020, 06:42 PM »
@mattbyington looks like it will be a nice project.

One thing I'm curious about -- you have a great eye for grain matching and based on other projects clearly like the captive panel in a mitered frame look (and those miters do look good). Why aren't you taking advantage of your fantastic bandsaw/jointer/planer setup and doing shopsawn veneers for that panel? 

This would 1)drastically reduce future issues 2)let you get more yield out of some pricier materials and 3) open up even more possibilities for things like bookmatched panels.  If it justifies you getting a vacuum bag setup, I guess that's also a perk.  :-)

The tandem drawer slides are great and make life a lot easier.  I think you'll enjoy them.

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2020, 06:43 PM »
@mattbyington,

If you have any questions about or issues with the drawer slides let me know. I purchase them by the pallet, the job we’re doing now will use 298 pairs of Tandem slides.

Tom

298 pair?!!  Tom,  you can not drop that bomb and walk away.  What could you possible be building?  I think I speak for everyone here, we want to hear all about it but perhaps best in a new thread.  Sorry for the hijack, Matt.  Nice work!  Looking forward to seeing more.

@JimKirkpatric,

All the casework for the 2020 Parade home.

On the home page are the videos for 2018 Parade homes. We did all the casework. There are 100’s of drawers in these also.

https://www.allabouthomedesign.com/

The gallery has stills.

Tom
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Offline P2P

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2020, 06:47 PM »
No offence, but you shouldn't capture that panel in a frame. At best, your (very nice) mitres will start opening.

Since I am constantly learning also - what could be done here instead?  Raised panel that floats is one that pops into my head.  Other options?

Offline Cheese

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2020, 06:49 PM »

298 pair?!!  Tom,  you can not drop that bomb and walk away.  What could you possible be building? 

I just assumed 298 drawers... [big grin]  [poke]

Offline Lincoln

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2020, 08:23 PM »
No offence, but you shouldn't capture that panel in a frame. At best, your (very nice) mitres will start opening.

Since I am constantly learning also - what could be done here instead?  Raised panel that floats is one that pops into my head.  Other options?
Yes, or use a veneered panel instead of solid.

Offline neilc

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2020, 10:40 PM »
One approach is a veneered plywood panel with bookmatched Bubinga wood veneer, and kerf cut a 1/16" expansion joint around the flush top edge, leaving a shadow line.  Use space balls in the dado that captures the panel to let it float.

No offence, but you shouldn't capture that panel in a frame. At best, your (very nice) mitres will start opening.

Since I am constantly learning also - what could be done here instead?  Raised panel that floats is one that pops into my head.  Other options?
Yes, or use a veneered panel instead of solid.

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2020, 09:27 AM »
@mattbyington

beautiful work as always.


Still cant believe you got all those tools and still can park yer car in there.

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2020, 09:50 AM »
@mattbyington where's the clamp-zilla's in that glue-up..?  [big grin] [poke]

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Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2020, 12:18 PM »
@neilc that sounds like a great idea and @Lincoln thank you for offering suggestions on what to do better.

one of these days I want to build identical furniture - one solid and one with a veneered manufactured substrate (MDF or ply) and see how they differ. I think that would be a really cool visual to show beginner woodworkers like myself to learn easier.

I recently learned that wood moves *across* the grain but not *along* the grain - like it won't get "longer" but it will expand and contract from a width perspective. Super interesting to me. I didn't know that until recently.

@jobsworth thank you so much! Appreciate it man! Haha, yes I do. Let me take a picture of the entire garage - I'll do that tonight so you guys can see the whole "enchilada" haha.

@richard/BMW I didn't us 'em :( they are just so hard to get configured and get the panels inside of them with glue ... with 2 panels it is OK...with 3 or 4, I find it VERY frustrating and not worth it for smaller panels, especially when I now own a drum sander to clean up any small bows or cups :)

More pics to come this week!

Matt

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2020, 09:07 PM »
Hey Matt, kudos for sharing the work, a couple of notes and responses below.

@neilc that sounds like a great idea and @Lincoln thank you for offering suggestions on what to do better.

one of these days I want to build identical furniture - one solid and one with a veneered manufactured substrate (MDF or ply) and see how they differ. I think that would be a really cool visual to show beginner woodworkers like myself to learn easier.
Very good practice and case study, and nice to do because it relies on affordable materials.

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I recently learned that wood moves *across* the grain but not *along* the grain - like it won't get "longer" but it will expand and contract from a width perspective. Super interesting to me. I didn't know that until recently.

One way to think of it: imagine a block of wood, removed from a tree, as a bundle of straws. In the tree, the straws in the sapwood move the water from roots to leaves. When converted to lumber, the wood retains its essential structure, it is still a bundle of straws. Straws are relatively easy to compress, crush, or stretch. They are exceedingly difficult to stretch along their length.

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2020, 09:36 PM »
One way to think of it: imagine a block of wood, removed from a tree, as a bundle of straws. In the tree, the straws in the sapwood move the water from roots to leaves. When converted to lumber, the wood retains its essential structure, it is still a bundle of straws. Straws are relatively easy to compress, crush, or stretch. They are exceedingly difficult to stretch along their length.

This is a great way to describe this!!  A mate of mine in the past had a very similar description and it clicked!!

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2020, 09:47 AM »
"I recently learned that wood moves *across* the grain but not *along* the grain - like it won't get "longer" but it will expand and contract from a width perspective. Super interesting to me. I didn't know that until recently."

Interesting statement and only slightly applies to "certain" woods that have been kiln dried properly, not subjected to large humidity swings and is not mitered on the corners. While some woods only move minimally on length its quite noticeable on a mitered cut as the pointed tip can pullaway and open the joint because it shrinks more. Keep reading, get a good moisture meter and hope the best with some of your learning.

Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2020, 08:06 PM »
@jake28 thank you so much for that analogy that is great! thanks for taking the time to write that up!

@kcufstoidi thanks I will keep reading! so much to learn but it is all interesting and I appreciate it.

The table is shaping up!

I need 2 questions for you guys:

1) Votes for a small inlay between the walnut and bubinga on the top?? yay or nay? I was thinking Cherry to separate them out would tie it into the legs but I'm also scared to hack up my nice top!

2) Edge treatment for the top. I was thinking small chamfer on the top and round-over the bottom edge of the top. Thoughts?

Thanks!!

Matt




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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2020, 09:42 PM »
When I saw this thread.... I thought.. Very nice that you are taking the time to make a nice project for a friend, nice attention to detail on the project and the construction of the systainer storage cabinet.  I really have concerns about the wood movement thing.

I have read a lot about that in Fine Woodworking and the Taunton press books over the years.  One way to see sources of info is to Google search "taunton press wood movement".  Around 20 years ago, I made a desk for my then young teenage daughter.  I used the plans from the Taunton Book that came out in 2000 called "Desks".  It was my first bigger project with very limited equipment at the time.

https://www.buildersbook.com/desks-outstanding-projects-from-america-s-best-craftsmen-by-andy-charron.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw4pT1BRBUEiwAm5QuR2-BYqeqeAqjZplHsSruMtmOnq8Ub6EFabce0Bm8d7x9ssfXZygC7RoCobEQAvD_BwE

My daughter never wanted it.  She wanted a white Ikea, which she since decided not to keep.  I still have the desk.  Enclosed is a picture I just took. 

The reason I show the picture is that when I made the pull out shelves, so much extra effort was needed to deal with anticipated wood movement.  I found the book and attached some info on that plan. 

Anyhow, just an FYI. Great job!




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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
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Oh... the other pictures did not post


Offline mattbyington

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2020, 12:22 PM »
@martin felder thanks so much for the pictures! those breadboard ends looks real nice, I'll have to try that sometime!

Matt

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2020, 11:35 AM »
All done!





Offline lshah72414

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Re: [Project 32] Bubinga, walnut, cherry bedside table for a friend
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2020, 01:03 PM »
As usual Matt, excellent work!
One question, How did you get the angle on the legs? Did you fabricate a Jig?