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Offline Terry Fogarty

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Why
« on: May 08, 2007, 11:00 AM »
It has always facinated me why people "log on" but never start, reply or comment on threads??? 

Why log on just to lurk ??? (i hate that term :-[)

I often look at "whos on line" and their are heaps, but they remain inactive.  ???

Maybe its just me and i love to yak about things and be active, but i wish everyone who logs on/in would at least say "hi" or a "well done" or "good idea" or "My girlfriend is gorgeous" or "I have this idea" or "how dose that work" or "what if you done it this way" or Blah, blah, bla.

Get active Festoolians and stop hanging around in the shadows.  Stop lurking and start being active, even if its just to say G`day ;D


Rant --- Over :-*
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Offline Lou Miller

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Re: Why
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2007, 11:09 AM »
Okay, I have this idea... I'm going to have an Italian hoagie for lunch. How's that???  ;D

Offline bruegf

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Re: Why
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2007, 11:16 AM »
It has always facinated me why people "log on" but never start, reply or comment on threads??? 

I don't see any of the pictures if I'm not logged on.

Fred
Fred

Offline cparson

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Re: Why
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2007, 11:21 AM »
I'm new and I know nothing.  Just sponging up knowledge.  Might ask something later today though.

Italian hoagie sounds good, all I have is peanut butter and jelly.  It's like I'm a fourth grader.

Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: Why
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2007, 11:21 AM »
It has always facinated me why people "log on" but never start, reply or comment on threads??? 

I don't see any of the pictures if I'm not logged on.

Fred

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh my argument is shot  :-[    ;D ;D

But dosnt it feel nice just to say hello :-*
« Last Edit: May 08, 2007, 11:23 AM by Tezzer »
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Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: Why
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2007, 11:24 AM »
Okay, I have this idea... I'm going to have an Italian hoagie for lunch. How's that???  ;D
Its 1.23am here and now im hungry
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Offline CharlesWilson

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Re: Why
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2007, 11:37 AM »
I am gonna dig into a chunk of dark chocolate.

Charles Wilson

Offline greg mann

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Re: Why
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2007, 11:43 AM »
My girlfriend really is gorgeous!!! ;D ;D ;D
Greg Mann
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Offline ejantny

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Re: Why
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2007, 11:58 AM »
Quote
"My girlfriend is gorgeous"

Don't tell my wife ...  ::) ::) ::)

Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: Why
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2007, 12:04 PM »
My girlfriend really is gorgeous!!! ;D ;D ;D


I dont believe you

Hmmmmmm... a pic might convince me ;)
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Offline Ted Miller

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Re: Why
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2007, 12:05 PM »
Teez, Well here in the states if you make a stupid comment on a forum and you have only a few posts you can get laughed at or ridiculed. Its just the way we work here. So for most guys they hang out for a good while learn what they can then start posting. A lot of times people only want to hear from the experienced not the newbie. Some forums if you don't do it like a experience guy does it then you don't know what you are doing. I understand we were all newbies once and heck I learn new things everyday and I have been around wood all my life...
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Offline Ted Miller

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Re: Why
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2007, 12:07 PM »
cparson, Welcome and watch out for that Teezer guy, he will start talking in strange words, but he is a good guy  ;D...
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Offline ejantny

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Re: Why
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2007, 12:09 PM »


Here she is.

Offline Ted Miller

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Re: Why
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2007, 12:10 PM »
Is her name Shelia?, oh sorry wrong board...
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Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: Why
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2007, 12:47 PM »
cparson, Welcome and watch out for that Teezer guy, he will start talking in strange words, but he is a good guy  ;D...

She`l be right ;) By jingoes their will be no argy bargy on my behalf here.
I kid you not, most of you blokes (except for the odd galah) are bloody good blokes and strangely enough not to many handbags here.

Most of you seem to be larrikins who id love to sink a half dozen pots with.  Struth, id even let some of you touch my Domino, but i wouldnt let you in a bulls roar ov the missus. 

She`s not a bad chic, and makes a mean lamington and pavlova, but is a bit of a rat bag. But boy can she sink some pi$$ :) But Ahhhhh  ::) she packs a wollop when she been on the turps, so i have to be carefull not to give her any agro.

Well im gettin off the beaten track here and feeling a bit peckish. Good that the old girl has just woken up so now she can make me a toasted sanga. If she dosnt it will be on for young and old, like it was last night when she forgot to wash my daks and it made me late to get to the trots as i had a dead set cert on the 5th at Ballarat, but it ended up a real dud and it was a waste of a redback.

Half the nags their should have been runnin at the back of Bourke as they were as useless as titts on a bull.

Anyway Teds on the Ball apart from the "talkin in strange words" but i have to go as i have a bad case of the trotts and need to get to the dunny.... Tooda loo ;)
« Last Edit: May 08, 2007, 01:02 PM by Tezzer »
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Offline bruegf

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Re: Why
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2007, 12:55 PM »
It has always facinated me why people "log on" but never start, reply or comment on threads??? 

I don't see any of the pictures if I'm not logged on.

Fred

It's not that I have anything against posting messages, I just don't have much to contribute at this time since its been 30 yrs since I've done any amount of woodworking, plus I've just started down the slippery Festool slope.

Fred
Fred

Offline Ted Miller

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Re: Why
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2007, 01:09 PM »
Fred, You know the saying its never to late to get restarted.

Teez, Man I need to break out my oz dictionary ;D...
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Offline Jesse Cloud

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Re: Why
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2007, 01:10 PM »
Okay, I have this idea... I'm going to have an Italian hoagie for lunch. How's that???  ;D

Ummmm.  Sounds good.  How about a picture. :D :D

Offline Dan Clermont

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Re: Why
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2007, 02:03 PM »
I "check in" ince or twice a day.

To be honest, I am here more to read what others post and absorb info. If I feel I can add something to the thread I will but their is nothing worse then reading three pages of thread with no useful info or people simply agreeing or disagreeing.

I used to post lots on the handtool forums and quit simply because it became very confrontational.

Guess I am now semi-retired from forums

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Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: Why
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2007, 02:39 PM »
Hey, I've been wondering how to get people more involved as well (click here).
I'd love it if we could break this open and get more people to post, ask questions, comment, and more.

When I was in college, I remember meeting a couple of Australian women...

Matthew
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Offline ejantny

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Re: Why
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2007, 02:44 PM »
That is the way message boards are. A very small percent do all the posting, some post one or two and leave or lurk. I was a moderator at another board (non woodworking) that I left a few months ago. In a little over three years I had 30,000k posts. I was a little burnt out.

I thought woodworking was history for me then I discovered Festool and its dust collection capabilities. The 16th of this month to be exact I moved into a new house with no way into the cellar other than the stairs. Hot air heat so I was concerned with dust.

I am a disabled Vietnam Vet (agent orange), so I was forced into early retirement because of health reasons. I get to work approx 2-4 hours a day and it is very slow as I move around with a forearm crutch.

But I do get stuff done and have lots and lots and lots of time to be on FOG.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2007, 02:55 PM by ejantny »

Offline ejantny

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Re: Why
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2007, 02:47 PM »
Quote
Hey, I've been wondering how to get people more involved as well (click here).
I'd love it if we could break this open and get more people to post, ask questions, comment, and more.

When I was in college, I remember meeting a couple of Australian women...

Matthew

One surefire way is to have a forums where jokes can be told, humorous links, etc. Clean stuff only. A message board is a community and people in a community do more than work.

Offline Eric Shields

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Re: Why
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2007, 03:39 PM »
As one of the above mentioned members, I can only attest to the fact that:

1) My shop isn't a shop yet (basement converstion) and I am doing very little beyond the renovation
2) I only have 1 Festool (TS55) and love it
3) I am still building my woodworking experience and therefore (along with #1) don't have much to contribute
4) I visit this forum to gain knowledge on future Festool purchases (yes there will be many)

It's not that I am against posting or being social, I just don't see the point in responding to a post/conversation that I don't have anything original to contribute

Still love this place and hope to expand my participation as my workshop, festool collection and experience grows

Offline woodshopdemos

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Re: Why
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2007, 04:24 PM »
It has always facinated me why people "log on" but never start, reply or comment on threads??? 

Why log on just to lurk ??? (i hate that term :-[)

I often look at "whos on line" and their are heaps, but they remain inactive.  ???

Maybe its just me and i love to yak about things and be active, but i wish everyone who logs on/in would at least say "hi" or a "well done" or "good idea" or "My girlfriend is gorgeous" or "I have this idea" or "how dose that work" or "what if you done it this way" or Blah, blah, bla.

Get active Festoolians and stop hanging around in the shadows.  Stop lurking and start being active, even if its just to say G`day ;D


Rant --- Over :-*

Top 10 Reasons Why People Log On

Number 10, because they can
Number 9,  so as not to forget how
Number 8,  so they can later log off
Number 7,  so they can take the polls
Number 6,  for extra credit
Number 5,  cause Per does
Number 4,  so their significant others will think they are on a legit site
Number 3,  to keep a check on the parity bits
Number 2,  to keep Dino in check
and the number one Reason why people log on is: so they can come back tomorrow and see if Tesser has posted: "Why is it that people don't always log off?"
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Offline CloseShave

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Re: Why
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2007, 04:27 PM »
Hi all,

Well, I just joined and I've already posted once. By contrast, I joined WoodNet and took at least 8 months before I was comfortable posting. I prefer to get the lay of the land first b/c there are quite a few 'aggressive' posters on these boards and I like to know who falls into what category.

Steve

Offline Ted Miller

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Re: Why
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2007, 04:36 PM »
Closeshave, Cool name and welcome, I have been on all types of boards and even owned one about bodybuilding. This board here is by far the best at not getting in your face about your pace, budget, post count, experience, tools you use or the projects you have done kind of place to post at. I know its a Festool kinda place but everyone here I have found to be nice and very courteous. Of course 95% of us have the green and black bug, but we are still ok, for now anyways...
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Offline Bob Childress

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Re: Why
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2007, 04:38 PM »
Maybe its just me and i love to yak about things and be active, but i wish everyone who logs on/in would at least say "hi" or a "well done" or "good idea" or "My girlfriend is gorgeous" or "I have this idea" or "how dose that work" or "what if you done it this way" or Blah, blah, bla.

G'day Terry. Watch what you wish for mate . . . . you might wake up the wowsers and yobbos, and then we'll be for it.  ;) ::) ;D ;D
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Offline rjfarel

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Re: Why
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2007, 04:58 PM »
I am a beginner and I don't have anything to contribute.  Believe me, if I posted just for the sake of posting, you'd hate it.

Offline ejantny

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Re: Why
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2007, 05:12 PM »
Hey rjfarel, welcome.
Maybe members here have something to contribute to you. Whether it be about Festool in particular or another aspect of woodworking. Post away.

Offline Bob Childress

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Re: Why
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2007, 05:22 PM »
Welcome to the FOG rjf. Don't worry about new or experienced. If you're like me, you can always participate by explaining why you stuffed something up and hope not to do it again.  ;D
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Offline Dan Clark

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Re: Why
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2007, 06:17 PM »
rjfarel,

Welcome to FOG.   IMO, everyone has something to contribute even if it's asking "obvious" questions.  Sometimes the "obvious" ain't so obvious.   And, you'll find that many of us have our own limitations (that definitely applies to me).   

Finally, you'll find that people buy Festool for a wide variety of reasons.   Many people here are "woodworkers" in the traditional sense.   But there are many who are currently using their Festools for house renovation projects (my gig right now) and other types of projects.  Some are pros, but most are amateurs.   

So please, jump in.  The water is fine!   ;D

Best regards,

Dan.

Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: Why
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2007, 08:43 PM »
Everyone should post freely and without concern.  Dive in and have fun.  Do it once and you'll want to do it again and again.

Regarding "silly" or "dumb questions: keep in mind that the very idea of this forum came from a silly question I asked myself about three years ago: "If I create a Festool Owners Group, I wonder how many people would join?"

It's that simple folks!

OK, come on in everybody.

Matthew
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Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: Why
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2007, 08:50 PM »
I am a disabled Vietnam Vet (agent orange), so I was forced into early retirement because of health reasons. I get to work approx 2-4 hours a day and it is very slow as I move around with a forearm crutch.
But I do get stuff done and have lots and lots and lots of time to be on FOG.

I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you in Vietnam.  I'm glad, though, that you find it a pleasure to spend time here on the forum.

Matthew
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Offline john stevens

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Re: Why
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2007, 09:58 PM »


Ten years now since our first date.  No, that's not me on the left.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2007, 10:39 PM by John Stevens »
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Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: Why
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2007, 10:30 PM »


Ten years now since our first date.

So who chased who  ???  ;D ;D
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Offline Dave Rudy

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Re: Why
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2007, 10:45 PM »
cparson, Welcome and watch out for that Teezer guy, he will start talking in strange words, but he is a good guy  ;D...

She`l be right ;) By jingoes their will be no argy bargy on my behalf here.
I kid you not, most of you blokes (except for the odd galah) are bloody good blokes and strangely enough not to many handbags here.

Most of you seem to be larrikins who id love to sink a half dozen pots with.  Struth, id even let some of you touch my Domino, but i wouldnt let you in a bulls roar ov the missus. 

She`s not a bad chic, and makes a mean lamington and pavlova, but is a bit of a rat bag. But boy can she sink some pi$$ :) But Ahhhhh  ::) she packs a wollop when she been on the turps, so i have to be carefull not to give her any agro.

Well im gettin off the beaten track here and feeling a bit peckish. Good that the old girl has just woken up so now she can make me a toasted sanga. If she dosnt it will be on for young and old, like it was last night when she forgot to wash my daks and it made me late to get to the trots as i had a dead set cert on the 5th at Ballarat, but it ended up a real dud and it was a waste of a redback.

Half the nags their should have been runnin at the back of Bourke as they were as useless as titts on a bull.

Anyway Teds on the Ball apart from the "talkin in strange words" but i have to go as i have a bad case of the trotts and need to get to the dunny.... Tooda loo ;)

That captures my sentiment exactly and is expressed exactly as I would (if I spent the next ten years learning brine, er -- um  strine).  Carry on (or is that another country altgother?)


Offline Curtis

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Re: Why
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2007, 10:50 PM »
Humm, well I am new here and would like to learn more about Festool.

Hey, this is my second post! 

Offline Dave Rudy

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Re: Why
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2007, 10:55 PM »
Seriously, all you newbies, I'm not too experienced either.  Actually, some of best posters are new to woodworking, but as they learn they share and we all benefit.  The two great things about this forum (it really is different than almost all the others) is that people here are almost always cordial and long-tempered, and that we have a wonderful mix of the most talented, experienced and helpful woodworking craftsmen anywhere, and people who just got their first woodworking tool, and everything in between.

Take some comfort in the fact that there are almost none here who will jump on you for any honest and sincere post  -- give it a try.  You will be welcome.

Dave

Offline Rob McGilp

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Re: Why
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2007, 02:19 AM »

When I was in college, I remember meeting a couple of Australian women...

Matthew

Matthew, I think I heard them mention you just the other day. Amazing! ;D

Ulbrit

Offline polarsea1

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Re: Why
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2007, 03:00 AM »
I spent Christmas and New Years in Sidney some years ago. During the Bronze Age.

Offline Dan Clark

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Re: Why
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2007, 10:19 AM »
...would like to learn more about Festool.
...

Curtis,

There 'ya go... You already have a lot in common with the rest of us - we all want to learn more about Festool.   ;D

Regards,

Dan.

Offline Matthew Schenker

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Re: Why
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2007, 01:28 PM »
Matthew, I think I heard them mention you just the other day. Amazing! ;D
Ulbrit

I'm not sure I want them to remember me!

Any Seinfeld fans out there?  I might be getting the quote mixed up, but an exchange between Jerry and George  went something like this...

Jerry said that women always remember "their first time."
George responded, "I don't want to be remembered.  I want to be forgotten."

Then again, I have an excuse.  I was only 19.

Matthew
« Last Edit: May 09, 2007, 01:29 PM by Matthew Schenker »
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Offline Terry Fogarty

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Re: Why
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2007, 03:05 AM »
For all you blokes out their who think we talk funny (We dont its just the rest of the world who do ;)) have a squiz at this-

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Offline Rocker

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Re: Why
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2007, 03:49 AM »
Tezzer,

That post of yours that Dave Rudy quoted was a classic. I could not have done half as well myself. But then I am just a whingeing pom anyway, although I have been dinky di since 1983.

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Offline ejantny

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Re: Why
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2007, 04:25 AM »
Wonder if the Blues Brothers, Jake and Elroy know they have another sibling.

Offline festeve

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Re: Why
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2007, 03:09 PM »
Just like many others, soaking up Festool and general woodworking knowledge.  Started with an RO 150 and CT22 package, and then saw a boom in a dealer showroom and got it.  Looking to get more.  Speaking of soaking, my main project right now is rescuing my tiny shop (10 X 11 ft.) from water brought by a torrential downpour that flooded most of the homes in my city.  Only got about an 1 1/2 inches of seepage throughout the basement till there was enough for it to flow into the sump pump, which kept up through the night.  Mostly dry now, but a lot of clean up.  I got off easy--many had multiple feet of water, including sewer backup. Yuck! Eight inches of rain in 24 hours, and 3 inches in one of the hours.  I live in a flat area, too.  Festools were rescued early on, of course!

Steve   

Offline ejantny

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Re: Why
« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2007, 03:27 PM »
Hey Steve, welcome ... Sorry you are having water problems.

How well does the CT22 work on water.

Offline festeve

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Re: Why
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2007, 03:58 PM »
Well, I purchased the foam filter inserts so I could use the CT22 with water, but I didn't know about the bucket insert until later.  I started to set it up for water pickup, and then I realized how difficult it would be to drain the water out without the insert.  I balked at the price of the insert (almost $100), and I decided to get a big Rigid 1850, and I have been very impressed with how it works for this sort of thing.  Not too loud even, certainly better than my old Dirt Devil screamer, which I had to use hearing protection with, even with a Sears muffler stuck on.  The DD did the job though until I got the Rigid.  I think water pickup is last on the list of what the CT can be used for.  It can do it, but it is not designed for it.  The Rigid, and others like it, excell at this.

Offline Brent b

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Re: Why
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2007, 08:24 PM »
Hi,
good idea.
I just like to lurk, back here in the shadows, where the wild things are, and the knowledge piles up high.
i bought in
it's paid off
i'm going home