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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #180 on: August 10, 2021, 03:29 PM »
I'm nearing the finish line on this. My to-do list still has several things on it but once I get the frames and shelves/doors painted I can use the new cabinets while I tinker with the rest of the room.



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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #181 on: August 10, 2021, 05:59 PM »
Great job, Matt!!!   [smile]
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #182 on: August 24, 2021, 10:58 PM »
Great job, Matt!!!   [smile]

Thanks Willy  [wink]

Not much longer now. 2 coats of primer, KA+ Surfacer, are on all the parts and sanded as needed. My birthday is this weekend and I decided I want this finished by then. At least the cabinets/shelves/faux frames. I'll take my time doing things like crown and painting the walls and ceiling in the Fall.

I'll probably jump into top coats tomorrow if schedule permits.









Matt
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #183 on: August 26, 2021, 06:14 AM »
Cabinets are done! Just need to install the handles on the doors. With the Zeta P2 I was able to pre-finish the face frames prior to assembly. A little careful positioning of the Tenso and they just snap on.





















Matt
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Offline rvieceli

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #184 on: August 26, 2021, 06:59 AM »
That looks really nice Matt. Excellent job on the whole project.

Do you have plans for the space above the wall cabinets?

Ron

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #185 on: August 26, 2021, 07:36 AM »
That looks really nice Matt. Excellent job on the whole project.

Do you have plans for the space above the wall cabinets?

Ron

Thank you Ron. Yes I picked out some two piece crown to go all around the room. I just need a break before tackling that.
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #186 on: November 13, 2021, 08:46 AM »
After getting burnt out on this I needed a long break but starting to get back to it with the realization I'll lose access to the workshop once Christmas wrapping season gets here.

I made up some sort of backing to attach baseboard to:





And this is what I'm going for with the crown look:



It's a base molding layered with crown on top. Kind of like this setup:



I'm now realizing with the joists running left to right across the ceiling when you're facing the cabinets, I'll have to build up that backing so it runs to the ceiling and put a blocking on it for the crown to attach to, so that'll be next on the to do list.

I've never done crown, but I think I understand the principles after watching some Ron Paulk and Gary Katz videos. Everything I've watched points me to doing cope joints. For the most visible part of the room (the cabinets) is where I'd start, and I'm thinking do butt joints both ends of the baseboard and the crown touching the wall on both sides, then work my way around doing cope/butt until the last piece and make it a cope/cope? Does the lower baseboard piece need to be coped or should I miter it?

Anyone wanna come do this for me?  [big grin] I'm ready to be done with all this.

Matt
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Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #187 on: November 13, 2021, 09:00 AM »
I still can't get past the statement " I'll lose access to the workshop once Christmas wrapping season gets here."  What different lives we all lead.   [smile]

Offline Rob Z

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #188 on: November 13, 2021, 11:17 AM »
I still can't get past the statement " I'll lose access to the workshop once Christmas wrapping season gets here."  What different lives we all lead.   [smile]
   LOL  [big grin]

Offline Rob Z

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #189 on: November 13, 2021, 11:21 AM »
Hey there Matt

It's been a while since I checked in and looked at your progress with this home office.  You've done a really fine job here.

In answer to your question, we used to cope even the crown backer.  If you haven't done crown before, then the backer is a good place to start working on the methods for coping. 

I've never seen the profiles shown on the right.  That trim looks interesting.


Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #190 on: November 13, 2021, 02:57 PM »
Really great job, looking very good, like the style!

BTW, your car look scary close to the professional paint shop with drying racks and all [wink]

Crown moulding is ok..! But only if the room (or house) is pretty straight and square corners..
I deal with nothing really straight, backing for rail and stile panel lacking sufficient support some places.. then it’s a real PITA.. slow moving process that demands some “nice to do” things in between  [scared] [big grin]
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #191 on: November 17, 2021, 08:09 AM »
Thanks for the support guys? I think anyway (looking at you @Rick Herrick  ;D)







I think I have this coping thing figured out. I ordered a Collins coping foot and a Dewalt DCS335B jigsaw at the recommendation of Spencer Lewis from Insider Carpentry:

He has some of, if not the, best videos on trim carpentry anywhere.

I'll finish up the base trim around the room and move on to the actual crown portion. Hopefully in the next week. Slow is fast, fast is slow.

Matt
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Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #192 on: November 17, 2021, 08:38 AM »
Thanks for the support guys? I think anyway (looking at you @Rick Herrick  ;D)

Matt

@DynaGlide Mucho support Matt. Everything I see you make indicates your shop should NEVER be closed.  You do very nice stuff.

Offline Rob Z

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #193 on: November 18, 2021, 02:43 PM »
Hey Matt

Have you used that new Dewalt cordless jigsaw for anything other than coping?  Meaning, without the coping foot and with the baseplate....

That's the model I have been considering but haven't decided yet what I will buy.

Any input you have will be appreciated.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #194 on: November 18, 2021, 06:30 PM »
Hey Matt

Have you used that new Dewalt cordless jigsaw for anything other than coping?  Meaning, without the coping foot and with the baseplate....

That's the model I have been considering but haven't decided yet what I will buy.

Any input you have will be appreciated.

Sorry Rob, I just got it for the sole purpose of coping. I'll take the foot off when I'm done and turn it into my all purpose jigsaw. Check back in a year 🙂
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Offline afish

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #195 on: November 18, 2021, 06:48 PM »
I have that exact model and really like it.  I dont use it for much other than cutting the up the waste from whats left on the cnc into manageable pieces for the dumpster but I would never go back to a corded unit or a top handle unit.  It cuts like butter and has more than enough power.   

Offline Rob Z

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #196 on: November 19, 2021, 01:39 PM »
Hey Matt, Thanks, but I might have made a decision by then  [big grin]  Sounds like you're on the "slow, but steady progress plan" LOL.  Great work you've done so far.




Sorry Rob, I just got it for the sole purpose of coping. I'll take the foot off when I'm done and turn it into my all purpose jigsaw. Check back in a year 🙂

Offline Rob Z

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #197 on: November 19, 2021, 01:41 PM »
Thanks for the input.  I decided I wanted to go cordless after tripping over the cord one too many times. [mad]


I have that exact model and really like it.  I dont use it for much other than cutting the up the waste from whats left on the cnc into manageable pieces for the dumpster but I would never go back to a corded unit or a top handle unit.  It cuts like butter and has more than enough power.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #198 on: November 23, 2021, 03:19 PM »
@Rob Z  @Rick Herrick and everyone else thank you for the kind words.

I made up these nailers to put up where I couldn't hit ceiling joists, but then I decided to just use them all around the room. Screws to secure them above the cabinets and 2 1/2" 16ga nails shot from the nailgun into studs everywhere else.











Ceiling projection jig suggested in many of the YouTube videos I watched. I found it indispensable for the install.



Despite my best efforts with a collins coping foot I just could not beat the consistency I achieved with this cheap little Easycoper plastic jig:







The tape is to tell me where the nailer blocks are for attaching the crown:



And for the last piece, since I was feeling particularly cocky, I did a double cope joint. And this was with MDF. I was so nervous it'd break snapping into place, or I'd cut it too short, but it just worked:



For my first time doing crown I'm very pleased with the results. I also hate doing crown! I wish I could say I'm almost done but after I fill and paint I have to work out how to hang some double sliding doors to replace the existing hinged ones that are always in the way.

Matt

« Last Edit: November 23, 2021, 03:21 PM by DynaGlide »
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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #199 on: November 25, 2021, 09:13 AM »
Hey Matt

Have you used that new Dewalt cordless jigsaw for anything other than coping?  Meaning, without the coping foot and with the baseplate....

That's the model I have been considering but haven't decided yet what I will buy.

Any input you have will be appreciated.

Rob, I have the same model and use it for general purpose stuff in the shop, first jigsaw I have ever really liked. Barrel grip fits my hand, blade change works well, base is stable. No complaints, but I'm not a technical/professional user.

RMW

As of 10/17 I am out of the Dog business and pursuing other distractions. Thanks for a fun ride!

Offline Rob Z

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #200 on: November 25, 2021, 12:42 PM »
Hello Richard

Thanks for the input. Sounds like the one I want to buy.....

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #201 on: November 29, 2021, 03:21 PM »




Crown is finished. After not liking the sheen (or lack thereof) with ProClassic semi-gloss, I switched to SW Emerald Urethane Gloss for the final coat and it turned out just the way I wanted.

The punch list is pretty small now just need to trim under the wall cabinets, hang some new blinds and touch up the walls. This has been a long project but very satisfying each step of the way. Thanks everyone for going along with it.

Matt
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Offline mike_aa

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #202 on: November 29, 2021, 06:08 PM »
@DynaGlide  Wow! That is really great looking.  The crown moulding adds a nice touch.

Thanks for posting your progress and all the photos.  I learned a lot.

Mike A.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #203 on: November 30, 2021, 07:28 AM »
@DynaGlide  Wow! That is really great looking.  The crown moulding adds a nice touch.

Thanks for posting your progress and all the photos.  I learned a lot.

Mike A.

Thanks Mike, I really appreciate it.

After the sun went down I realized I'm not done painting the crown. In the daylight it looks mostly okay, but once the room became dark and I put the lights on it's apparent the crown is a much cooler white than the cabinets and the rest of the trim in the room. As it stands, the crown has in this order 1) Cover stain 2) ProClassic Acrylic-Alkyd White Semi-Gloss 3) SW Emerald Urethane High Hide White Gloss.

The cabinets were sprayed with SW Kem Aqua+ in their semi gloss white, I can't remember the code they use for this but I have the can if needed.

Where do I go from here? Scuff sand and apply (insert product)? Prime again, different primer (insert primer), then apply top coat (insert product here)? Finished space so brushing is the only option for me.

@tjbnwi any input?

Thanks all,
Matt



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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #204 on: November 30, 2021, 08:58 AM »
@DynaGlide,

To start with, great iob. Everything looks really nice.

For the crown, scuff sand, wipe down, spary KA+ over it. The issue arises in the base of the various products. The products may be all SW, but the titanium whites vary slightly from product line to product line.

You don't have to strip it, just scuff sand with 240 to give the KA+ something to hold on to. None of the waterbornes burn in, they need tooth to grip one coat to the next.

Tom

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #205 on: November 30, 2021, 09:01 AM »
@DynaGlide,

To start with, great iob. Everything looks really nice.

For the crown, scuff sand, wipe down, spary KA+ over it. The issue arises in the base of the various products. The products may be all SW, but the titanium whites vary slightly from product line to product line.

You don't have to strip it, just scuff sand with 240 to give the KA+ something to hold on to. None of the waterbornes burn in, they need tooth to grip one coat to the next.

Tom

@tjbnwi Hey Tom,

I'd love to use KA+, but can't spray in my finished space. Any other ideas?

Also thank you for the compliments. Means a lot coming from someone like you.

Edit: Local store that sold me the KA+ recommended I try the Emerald Designer series in an Ultra White base. He said that's the brightest white they can offer.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2021, 09:57 AM by DynaGlide »
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #206 on: November 30, 2021, 09:58 AM »
I have too ask——why can’t you spray in your finished space? I may have suggestions to mitigate your concerns. It’s not something I like to do but at times I have to. Always seems to be issues with crown that call for spraying in place.

Had to go out and do this one at 2 AM. Takes some work but it can be done.

KA+ does not brush or roll well.

Take a door or finished piece, if you have one, to your SW dealer, they may be able to match the sheen and tone in another product.

You can try a BM dealer to see if they can match it also, BM’s white bases are different than SW’s.

Tom
« Last Edit: November 30, 2021, 10:03 AM by tjbnwi »

Offline neilc

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #207 on: November 30, 2021, 10:38 AM »
Looks great, Matt!  Congrats on the finish line - or almost the finish line with the recoats!

Appreciate you taking all of us along for the ride!

Offline tobiaskurz

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #208 on: November 30, 2021, 04:42 PM »
@DynaGlide

I appreciate the CISCO IP Phone on your desk. Is it a 7945G? I have the CISCO 8841.

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #209 on: November 30, 2021, 07:07 PM »
Really well done, Matt!!!  Four thumbs up!!! 
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  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)