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Offline neilc

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #120 on: April 06, 2021, 05:27 PM »
Matt - nice progress.  Like the use of the vac holding clamps for the LR-32 rail.

So what are the grooves on the bottom of the adjustable shelves for?

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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #121 on: April 06, 2021, 06:50 PM »
Matt - nice progress.  Like the use of the vac holding clamps for the LR-32 rail.

So what are the grooves on the bottom of the adjustable shelves for?

Thanks Neil. Wish it was faster but I don't have much free time. Those are the cabinet tops and bottoms with the grooves.

Love that vac sys cart.
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #122 on: April 07, 2021, 10:33 AM »
Vertical plunges in carcass sides are probably my least favorite thing to do. I'm not sure I'd even feel comfortable doing it without the @TSO_Products BigFoot accessory:









Now I can dry fit everything and pull measurements for the back panels and two doors and work on getting the adjustable shelves sized and apply front lips. Still debating on how I'll handle the face frame in terms of when I make it. It will mean longer project time but I'll probably get the cabinets painted and installed before final sizing so I can make sure it's perfect and scribe it before painting then install it.
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #123 on: April 08, 2021, 11:53 AM »
This is what happens when one of your parts isn't square:







The side with the shelf pin holes has a taper in width from 387mm to 386mm. It was supposed to be 387mm. It threw the back panel groove off by a full 2mm and the shelf pin holes are out an extra mm front to back. Should I salvage this piece by making the groove wider toward the back of the side or scrap it? I'm out of material.

Matt

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Offline Cheese

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #124 on: April 08, 2021, 12:14 PM »
Widen the groove Matt.  [smile]

Offline squall_line

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #125 on: April 08, 2021, 12:16 PM »
This is what happens when one of your parts isn't square:

The side with the shelf pin holes has a taper in width from 387mm to 386mm. It was supposed to be 387mm. It threw the back panel groove off by a full 2mm and the shelf pin holes are out an extra mm front to back. Should I salvage this piece by making the groove wider toward the back of the side or scrap it? I'm out of material.

Matt

I'm not 100% sure which part isn't square because I think the lens distortion is affecting the perspective as well.

Are you saying the piece laying on its back is 387mm top-to-bottom in the back near the groove and only 386mm at the front?

Assuming you used one of the ends as a reference face for your pins, are they at least even if they're measured from either the top reference face or the bottom?

Is the top square, is the bottom square, or are neither?

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #126 on: April 08, 2021, 12:24 PM »



I'm not 100% sure which part isn't square because I think the lens distortion is affecting the perspective as well.

Are you saying the piece laying on its back is 387mm top-to-bottom in the back near the groove and only 386mm at the front?

Assuming you used one of the ends as a reference face for your pins, are they at least even if they're measured from either the top reference face or the bottom?

Is the top square, is the bottom square, or are neither?

The side laying down with the shelf pin holes measures 387mm toward the bottom and 386mm toward the top. The top and bottom panels are square and measure 387mm.

If I widen the groove like @Cheese suggests then I think I'll be okay. The alignment of the shelf pin holes will be a little off and the back side of the cabinet would be a little off but you'd never see it anyway.
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Offline squall_line

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #127 on: April 08, 2021, 12:35 PM »
Ahh, that makes much more sense.  I was misjudging which edges were out-of-spec, even after my metric-to-imperial conversion.

Offline Dr. P. Venkman

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #128 on: April 08, 2021, 12:51 PM »
I am not at all understanding how a 1mm variance in thickness* caused it to be out by that much. Is the front corner of that joint flush, or is the side with the shelf pin holes proud of the top panel?

Edit: width, not thickness.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2021, 12:54 PM by Dr. P. Venkman »

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #129 on: April 08, 2021, 02:13 PM »
@Cheese Groove widened.

It looks worse from the side than head on





I'll be sure to install this one to the far left of the wall so the gap won't be seen. Woodworking isn't about making things perfect but how to cover up your stupid mistakes so others don't see them.
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Offline cpw

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #130 on: April 08, 2021, 02:17 PM »
Vertical plunges in carcass sides are probably my least favorite thing to do. I'm not sure I'd even feel comfortable doing it without the @TSO_Products BigFoot accessory:
An alternative is using the Domiplate from Seneca.  The Domiplate goes on the edge to register your offset, and the domino fence then supports the machine on the face.  There are a lot of accessories to get good results with the DF500, it's nice to have all these choices.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #131 on: April 08, 2021, 02:20 PM »
Ya, once you put the shelves in there and do the filing paper shuffle  [smile]  you'll never notice it. You'd literally have to unload it to find it.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #132 on: April 08, 2021, 02:20 PM »
Vertical plunges in carcass sides are probably my least favorite thing to do. I'm not sure I'd even feel comfortable doing it without the @TSO_Products BigFoot accessory:
An alternative is using the Domiplate from Seneca.  The Domiplate goes on the edge to register your offset, and the domino fence then supports the machine on the face.  There are a lot of accessories to get good results with the DF500, it's nice to have all these choices.

@cpw I bought a domiplate when I got my Domino but I don't use it because I realized pretty quick I don't like centering my mortises. It's also kind of awkward to work the Domino upside down.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #133 on: April 08, 2021, 02:56 PM »
I bought a domiplate when I got my Domino but I don't use it because I realized pretty quick I don't like centering my mortises. It's also kind of awkward to work the Domino upside down.

I concur Matt...one of the first items I purchased for the DF 500 was a Domiplate but after using it, I quickly abandoned it. I keep it with the DF 500 "just in case", well, 9 years later "just in case" still hasn't happened.  [big grin]

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #134 on: April 08, 2021, 04:56 PM »
If you widen the groove in the top piece you can close the gap.
Rip a filler to stuff behind the back panel in the then too wide groove.