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Offline DynaGlide

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Home Office Remodel
« on: June 16, 2020, 12:01 PM »
I got into woodworking with the goal of being able to make stuff for the house. Last year I tackled Plantation Shutter Madness. This year's project is taking it up another notch with lots of remodel and cabinetry which are also firsts for me. We have a home office where I work full time. With the uncertainty of returning to the office for my wife in the foreseeable future I set out to convert it into a more usable space that we could both share.



I've spent the last few weeks taking out the closet and re-running electrical. Mistakes were made but I've been learning as I go. I ran a new outlet where I plan on having a corner computer cabinet and raised two existing outlets to above where the counter will sit when installed.



 Today I had to patch the floor where the closet used to be. .that was difficult. I ended up ripping the tongue off some of the pieces that I found in the basement when we bought the house 2 years ago. Then there was about a 5 degree taper along the width of the opening. I took light passes with the track saw until I could shove the patch flooring into place.





I have been up to the attic so much during all of the wiring that I feel like I could walk around up there blindfolded. The room is almost done being prepped so I can get started on building the cabinets this weekend.

Phase 1 is the base cabinets and countertop. I'll be doing frameless cabinets and using the LR32 system for line boring. I hope to update this post as I get going.



Stay tuned.

Matt
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Offline mike_aa

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2020, 03:13 PM »
@DynaGlide  Nice job on the floor patch!  Good luck with the rest of the build!

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2020, 08:13 PM »
@DynaGlide - usual good planning job, Matt!
GReat way to recover poorly utilized closet space. Your right: that floor remodel will not be noticed on an the furnished space.

Here are some random order brainstorming topics:

How much detailed planning have you given to each workspace usage needs?
SKYPE Meetings vieod surrounding and video face llighting
Ergonomics - laptop? - keyboard tray? monitor viewing distance to seated position? monitor height adjustable desk atands or repositionable wall arms?
Rounded  bullnose edges on worksurfaces
Thougts given to sit-stand desk surfaces?
cable management access below
110 Volt outlet run on the walll 30 - 42 inches high all around?
Powered USB outlets
Cable trays accessible from above
easy access to the back of desktop PC's living on the floor
Printer location for easy access from each swivel chairs
Desk Space with task lighting for workpapers
Remember that 24" deskspace is greatly reduced by two monitors and a keyboard plus perhaps a Laptop arm (email)
Long days at the desk - where do the feet stretch
Speakers
SKYPE video camera/mic between monitors

the size of the room or door and window locations?
Have you considered other non-corner layouts before choosing the finalist?

Where are heating and airconditioning outlets relative to person's seating? - blowing air is not comfortable for extended periods

Finally: flexibility to reconfigure as your needs (will) change :)

We'll vicariously enjoy your progress here via the FOG!
Hans

Offline hdv

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2020, 05:29 AM »
I don't know how many electrical appliances you plan on having in that office, but I highly recommend a power switch. Years ago I made a small 19 inch rack for my computers and added space for a network patch panel and a power switch. I still am glad I did that.

Something like this:

* power_switch.jpg (9.1 kB - downloaded 153 times.)

Of course, you might not have any 19 inch IT stuff, but a power switch still is ideal. And you can connect any powered device to it, not just IT stuff. Some even have USB outlets. I bought mine at a store for DJ's. Not sure where you could buy them in the States. To sum up some benefits: easy access to power buttons, a visible queue to whether something is powered on or not, saving energy (because you don't have the transformers on stand-by all the time), reduced risk of fire (for the same reason), (possibly) reduced clutter on or below your desk.

If you have low frequency units for a sound system and don't want to kick against them with your feet all the time, make sure you don't forget to create an "out of the way" place for them as well.

[Edit: sorry, that picture was meant to go inline...]

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2020, 09:02 AM »
Matt, another item to consider is Ethernet cabling and router placement.  Now is the time to consider cable routing.  If you plan on having your main router in the office, consider placing it high on a shelf so that little affects the Wi-Fi signal strength.  Consider also how you'll get the Ethernet or coax cabling from the ONT (assuming you're using FiOS) to your router.  Get those cable paths established before construction,  Also consider placing some cable grommets in the countertop to help rout cabling out of sight.  If you and SWMBO plan on sharing a printer, that will add cabling between the router and the printer, and to each computer (docking station).  We can chat some time about the setup. 
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2020, 09:06 AM »
@DynaGlide - usual good planning job, Matt!
GReat way to recover poorly utilized closet space. Your right: that floor remodel will not be noticed on an the furnished space.

Here are some random order brainstorming topics:

How much detailed planning have you given to each workspace usage needs?
SKYPE Meetings vieod surrounding and video face llighting
Ergonomics - laptop? - keyboard tray? monitor viewing distance to seated position? monitor height adjustable desk atands or repositionable wall arms?
Rounded  bullnose edges on worksurfaces
Thougts given to sit-stand desk surfaces?
cable management access below
110 Volt outlet run on the walll 30 - 42 inches high all around?
Powered USB outlets
Cable trays accessible from above
easy access to the back of desktop PC's living on the floor
Printer location for easy access from each swivel chairs
Desk Space with task lighting for workpapers
Remember that 24" deskspace is greatly reduced by two monitors and a keyboard plus perhaps a Laptop arm (email)
Long days at the desk - where do the feet stretch
Speakers
SKYPE video camera/mic between monitors

the size of the room or door and window locations?
Have you considered other non-corner layouts before choosing the finalist?

Where are heating and airconditioning outlets relative to person's seating? - blowing air is not comfortable for extended periods

Finally: flexibility to reconfigure as your needs (will) change :)

We'll vicariously enjoy your progress here via the FOG!
Hans

Hans - There sure is a lot to digest with your post. Luckily I don't do video conferences with my work on a regular basis. I will be in the corner to allow placement of up to 3 monitors. My wife does a fair share of video calls but her computer camera will not include me. These are valid considerations that I didn't even take into account.

The desk is more or less standardized using guidance from the Blum Process32 manual for an office desk. That is - 30.5" final height and 24" deep base cabinets. Luckily I have an IKEA desk currently with similar height dimensions that I've used for several years so I have a good feeling of what is "right" for me.

For wiring I will have cable trays underneath each work area and cutouts in the cabinets where required. The outlets have all been relocated to above desk height an appropriate distance save for the one outlet I added which will be brought into the corner computer cabinet. No door will go on that cabinet as I plan on building a PC and locating it inside along with some minor network equipment.

The printer will be up on top of the desk and under a bookshelf (later stage of the project) above where the corner computer cabinet will sit.

We went through several iterations to get to the final design working within the constraints of the doors for the room and the available space. Initially we planned a sort of double L extending into the middle of the room but abandoned the idea when we realized the room wasn't wide enough. The corner desk isn't ideal however the double wide cabinets to the left and right of the corner were necessary for storage of larger items that wouldn't do well in a single width cabinet.

I hope to have some sort of rounded profile for the counter. I'm still researching the laminate. It's tough with COVID-19. I am unable to see any product in person because of restrictions in place.

@hdv Interesting I've never come across that before. For my needs that would be overkill. At most there will be a handful of items in the PC cabinet. I'm not a networking engineer and will have any patch panels or switches located in the basement.

I setup my cutting station yesterday prior to delivery of the sheet goods. It's the Veritas Panel Platform Kit https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/workshop/workbenches/work-surfaces/76830-veritas-panel-platform-kit

clamped to a pair of Tracktubes on DeWALT lightweight horses. What I love about this setup is it's so easy to break down into a small storage space and setup a rock solid sacrificial and comfortable cutting surface. Oh and the sacrificial boards are ripped down cedar from a shelf I had at the time so I get to smell that every time I use it.  ;D







Stay tuned.

Matt
« Last Edit: June 17, 2020, 09:18 AM by DynaGlide »
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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2020, 10:07 AM »
FWIW...Doug Mockett sells tons of architectural hardware for the office.

Cable grommets   https://www.mockett.com/grommets-wire-management#page=1&top=295&

Power grommets and recessed receptacles   https://www.mockett.com/power-communication-systems/#page=5&top=468&

Desk accessories   https://www.mockett.com/ergonomics-table-work-surface-accessories/

Besides, Doug is another motor-head. He runs, as in drives, a 1954 Oldsmobile Super 88 in the Carrera Panamericana and the Pikes Peak hill climb every year. I know he's won both of the races at least once.




Offline Rob Z

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2020, 02:41 PM »
Matt,

I have some brown grommets leftover from long ago.  You can have them if you want them. The brown color might not work for your design, however.

Cheese,

I recall that my Grandfather had a mid-50's ( I think it was a '55) Olds 88.  I'm pretty sure he didn't have flames on the front end.  [big grin]

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2020, 12:04 PM »
It's been a busy few days. I broke down all of the sheets in the garage using TSO squares and parallel guides. It worked out pretty well. It would be best suited for someone with several longer rails to avoid swapping hardware back and forth and joining rails between rip and cross cuts. But I made do. I think the pictures explain everything but I'm happy to elaborate if needed:















Using that cutting table affirmed my decision to avoid the upcoming STM 1800. It's just too clunky trying to line panels up so they're properly supported when you're switching back and forth from rip and cross cuts and moving a guide rail around and trying not to walk into the support arms of the cutting table. Next time I'll likely do everything on the MFT tables.

I gave a new product (to me) a shot for edgebanding. The Fastedge white PVC edging. I was all prepared to use my MFK 700 to trim it but it's so easy to cut with quad trimmers that I didn't even get it out. I was pleasantly surprised by how nice this product applied and trimmed that for painted projects I don't think I'd use anything else.







And now onto something I cobbled together around February but haven't had the chance to put to use. I borrowed some ideas from way back on this forum to modify my LR-32 parallel guides. Longer hexagon rods with easier to read adhesive tape and different knobs (levers?) for attaching to the guide rail. On top of that I got to try out the vacuum guide rail clamps from @simonh . One of the benefits of the longer parallel guides is I can setup for the 261mm center row of holes without any goofy measuring and eyeballing. I've included a video of how the whole setup works. I apologize for the quality, it's from my security camera. I am extremely pleased with the setup.





















And finally, on Father's Day my brother helped me run Cat6 to my Office from the basement:

« Last Edit: June 22, 2020, 12:16 PM by DynaGlide »
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2020, 12:10 PM »
Love the vacuum rail clamp idea! Ill have to implement something like that myself!
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2020, 03:13 PM »
Nicely documented, Matt!  One suggestion, though - when you're joining two rails with the Betterley, I'd suggest that you use the
Guide Rail Index LA-LR 32 FS, Item number 496938 to space the holey rails properly to get a consistent 32mm pattern at the join point.  Feel free to ping me if this doesn't make sense.   [smile]
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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2020, 05:42 PM »
And finally, on Father's Day my brother helped me run Cat6 to my Office from the basement:


Just a random question.  How did you cut the hole in the plywood floor/ceiling for the Cat6 blue cable?  It looks like you took a spade bit and drilled about 20 holes around the edge of the area you wanted cut out.  It does not look like any saw, that cuts a straight line,  was used to cut the hole.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2020, 07:17 PM »
@RussellS That is a fair question. .the answer is I didn't do it. The only way we could get the Cat6 to the attic was to use an existing Coax run that was installed after the house was built. Some other hack did that hole.

I started assembling some boxes and when I got to my second one I ran into an issue on one side of the bottom of the cabinet:



Some of the screws are bulging out the bottom. I know part of it was operator error (me) not drilling perfectly straight before driving them in. I marked 9mm from the bottom as a guide but I was working in a weird spot on this particular box. But I figured I'd stop and ask: Are #8 the standard for this application? If so I'll just be more careful moving forward. My first thought was that I was hitting the Dominos with the screws but I checked and that wasn't the case.

Thanks,
Matt
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Offline Rob Z

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2020, 07:23 PM »
Hey Matt

Looks like a good start to your project.  I don't think the use of a #8 screw is a problem in 3/4"/18 mm material.  That is what I used on all those bookcases I built recently. I did drill a pilot hole before driving each screw.   Did you size the pilot hole so it worked with the size of the shank of the screw?

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2020, 07:28 PM »
Matt, pre-drill the screw holes just slightly under the screw shank dimension.  On the hack job, you'll do well to cut some left-over 3/4" material to completely cover that area, but bore a hole just big enough to fit the cable bundle.  Split that cover piece right through the hole so that you can install the cover without having to re-run the cabling.  Once it's installed tightly around the cable bundle, use fire-stop caulk around the edges, the split, and around the cable bundle.  Also, caulk around the ductwork beside the cable hole.   [smile]
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2020, 07:29 PM »
Hey Matt

Looks like a good start to your project.  I don't think the use of a #8 screw is a problem in 3/4"/18 mm material.  That is what I used on all those bookcases I built recently. I did drill a pilot hole before driving each screw.   Did you size the pilot hole so it worked with the size of the shank of the screw?

Very timely response. .I am using a #8 snappy countersink bit. I re-did the bulged screws and had no issues when I focused more on going in straight. I guess I was just careless with my drilling.
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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2020, 10:03 PM »
Great project and progress Matt!  Cableorganizer.com has some pretty good materials for grommets, under mount cable management, cable ties from Velcro, etc.

Looking forward to the progress!

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2020, 10:05 PM »
@DynaGlide - your project pictures along with pointers from the likes of Sparktrician are a big helpo for many facing this kind of work.

Your LR-32 Hex bar extension pictures the same solution we developed last year when we ran into the same limitations with the short standard bars and the awkward tightening/releasing of the FESTOOL attachment. We hesitated to put it into production because we were not sure if the market is big enough to justify the effort.

Maybe some other LR-32 users, who would rather do woodworking than building shopmade fixtures, will speak up ? ?

Hans

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2020, 08:40 AM »
@DynaGlide - your project pictures along with pointers from the likes of Sparktrician are a big helpo for many facing this kind of work.

Your LR-32 Hex bar extension pictures the same solution we developed last year when we ran into the same limitations with the short standard bars and the awkward tightening/releasing of the FESTOOL attachment. We hesitated to put it into production because we were not sure if the market is big enough to justify the effort.

Maybe some other LR-32 users, who would rather do woodworking than building shopmade fixtures, will speak up ? ?

Hans

@neilc Hey Neil. Thanks for the link I think I'll check those out. I'm still dreading doing the countertop. But one thing at a time!

@TSO_Products Hans that's interesting to hear. I'd love to check out what you cooked up. My setup works but you know I have an affinity for the blue stuff. .which leads to:









The Big Foot has been invaluable here for vertical plunges with this winged contraption. The Domino is a bit unwieldy without it but I was able to do two cabinet sides and the bottom all on the tight setting and fit them together (bad idea, it was hard to assemble and have since switched to first tight for alignment, rest of the mortises on medium). You get such a good purchase with the Big Foot that you can hold the Domino firmly in place and plunge with your other hand. Very happy with this product. Thank you again Hans.

Matt
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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2020, 11:33 AM »
@DynaGlide - your project pictures along with pointers from the likes of Sparktrician are a big helpo for many facing this kind of work.

Your LR-32 Hex bar extension pictures the same solution we developed last year when we ran into the same limitations with the short standard bars and the awkward tightening/releasing of the FESTOOL attachment. We hesitated to put it into production because we were not sure if the market is big enough to justify the effort.

Maybe some other LR-32 users, who would rather do woodworking than building shopmade fixtures, will speak up ? ?

Hans

@TSO_Products Hans I'm interested but primarily due to a pending project July-ish. If you had something available now I'd buy, absent that I will probably whomp up a DIY set.

@DynaGlide Matt - where did you obtain the hex bar stock, MMC?

Thanks,

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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2020, 02:19 PM »
@DynaGlide - your project pictures along with pointers from the likes of Sparktrician are a big helpo for many facing this kind of work.

Your LR-32 Hex bar extension pictures the same solution we developed last year when we ran into the same limitations with the short standard bars and the awkward tightening/releasing of the FESTOOL attachment. We hesitated to put it into production because we were not sure if the market is big enough to justify the effort.

Maybe some other LR-32 users, who would rather do woodworking than building shopmade fixtures, will speak up ? ?

Hans

@TSO_Products Hans I'm interested but primarily due to a pending project July-ish. If you had something available now I'd buy, absent that I will probably whomp up a DIY set.

@DynaGlide Matt - where did you obtain the hex bar stock, MMC?

Thanks,

RMW

@Richard/RMW It's from McMaster Carr.    89845K77 I bought the 2ft length.

The other tricky part is finding a tape that will fit it. .this is the one I used https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I8RKN68/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If all you are doing are a fixed depth you could cobble together your own jig for the guide rail out of scrap MDF. Line up the router on the LR32 plate where you want it and triple check it's parallel etc. Take some measurements and make your own one off pair for that setup.

Like this:



If I only made cabinets and only used the same hardware I could see having a pair made up for 37mm and 261mm ready to go.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2020, 02:24 PM by DynaGlide »
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2020, 07:23 AM »
Question for the group: I'm at the step of attaching my leg levelers. Here are the ones I purchased: Desunia Cabinet levelers

I've found mixed opinions on the function of the leg levelers. Some guides say to have them straddle the side panel to take on the load whereas others have firmly argued frameless cabinets transfer the load to the back and to the wall and other joined boxes once installed. Two of my boxes are not screwed to other boxes. The front to back set back I can work out it's the side of the box to the leveler I would like advice on. Another consideration is some of the ends will get applied end panels (and side toe kicks as well) so I'm assuming on those boxes the leveler gets placed closer to the edge of the side of the box.

As always pics are appreciated if you have them.

Matt

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2020, 07:46 AM »
Check out the attached PDF file, Matt.   [smile]
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2020, 08:00 AM »
Check out the attached PDF file, Matt.   [smile]

That sure is handy and confirms what I was thinking. .if you aren't going to see the side of a cabinet put the leveler right near the edges with proper front setback whereas if there's an applied end panel, account for the 3/4" thickness of that and shoot for the same setback as the front to back on those shown sides. I had also planned on mitering the toe kicks where they meet on the ends.

Thanks Willy
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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2020, 09:43 AM »
Looking good.

I'm surprised with all that TSO gear that you're still using a Betterly and Makita connectors to join the rails.

Offline DynaGlide

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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2020, 09:56 AM »
Looking good.

I'm surprised with all that TSO gear that you're still using a Betterly and Makita connectors to join the rails.

That's a fair point. If Hans @TSO_Products wants to send me some. . .until then the Makita + Betterley is deadly accurate and solid and I'd have to deal with selling them on to re-coup some of my money.
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2020, 12:34 PM »
@DynaGlide: I don't know if you have any use for this, but here's a useful trick I learned a few years ago. Glue a bullseye level on the back of your drill. Make it so that the air bubble is in the centre ring when the drill bit is perfectly plump. That way you can look at the level to see if you are drilling straight or not.




Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2020, 04:46 PM »
@hdv That's a good tip. I'll do that to my Milwaukee drills.

And now drum roll. . .







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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2020, 01:47 AM »
Late night here. .just finished up a little while ago installing some recessed lighting:



« Last Edit: June 26, 2020, 01:50 AM by DynaGlide »
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« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2020, 09:28 AM »
Good progress, Matt.  Guess you really had a long day.   [big grin]
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« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2020, 09:56 AM »
Good progress, Matt.  Guess you really had a long day.   [big grin]

And as par for course, the circuit I had to turn off to work on the lighting included the attic light. There's nothing quite like sitting up on a 2x board in the dark at midnight with a headlight running wire. At least it was nice and cool.

I think I'll go on a supply run this afternoon and work on the doors/drawers we discussed yesterday. Countertop materials won't be in until mid July.

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2020, 08:03 PM »
@DynaGlide - your project pictures along with pointers from the likes of Sparktrician are a big helpo for many facing this kind of work.

Your LR-32 Hex bar extension pictures the same solution we developed last year when we ran into the same limitations with the short standard bars and the awkward tightening/releasing of the FESTOOL attachment. We hesitated to put it into production because we were not sure if the market is big enough to justify the effort.

Maybe some other LR-32 users, who would rather do woodworking than building shopmade fixtures, will speak up ? ?

Hans

I’d be interested in getting something as well. Would be even slicker if it had multiple stops so you didn’t have to shift the stop for your next row of holes. I’m typically boring three sets of holes when I install my drawer slides.
Clint

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2020, 09:20 AM »
I've been putting in 12 hr days on the weekends. .yesterday was another one. I spent most of the morning assembling drawer boxes then went over to Home Depot in the afternoon to get supplies to paint. I wrapped up around 10 last night with the cabinets moved up from the basement to the 2nd floor. I don't need to tell anyone how dumb doing that by myself was.

This morning at 7:30 I hear the delivery truck pulling up with my 2.5" Maple. When I go out to help unload I saw the 1/2" sheet of Medex MDF which I had ordered from a separate supplier was already sitting outside my garage. And I thought I got going early. Jeez.

1/2" Prefinished Maple


Straight line


Ripped down off pencil line since it's a narrow rip


Cross cut using the TSO goodies


Everything came out perfect


If I were a smart person I would have ran the drawer bottom groove on the 8' sheet prior to ripping. Apparently I'm not a smart person. Vac Sys to the rescue:





Throw in the mortises and edge banding and presto, drawer sides and fronts


Back to the TSO goodies for 6 perfectly sized drawer bottoms




Now if I were a 'really' smart person I would've bought the drawer sides ready to go and spent the extra $40. I could've saved half a day had I done that. The reason I didn't is I was worried I'd mess something up and not be able to get more material whereas with my 1/2" sheet of ply I had extra. I'm still buying the ready to go sides next time, that was too tedious.

A little primer


A little paint


And bingo


Now off to read about how to setup this Freud T&G set and work out my door and drawer faces. .

Matt



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Offline DynaGlide

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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2020, 09:43 PM »
Freud T&G set figured out. It took some fiddling and a wasted board or two but I got 'er done. For the panels I used 1/2" Medex Moister Resistant MDF and back cut it to fit into the grooves and be almost flush to the back of the door frames. Since I didn't plan ahead to use space balls or what not other alternatives, I'm debating a dab of glue in the middle of each panel top and bottom. I started the panels off as a really tight fit but adjusted them until they were a little looser so I could slide them into position (even gap) after clamping the rails and stiles together.

Also used one of @tjbnwi Tom's tricks to clean up the drawer dominos today with the MFK700:





I left them a touch proud, mainly because I like to feel them.

Here's my super secret setup technique for the T&G router bit set. Once you have a groove done and you do it for 6mm. .slip a 6mm Domino into the groove and line it up with the tongue bit to get the height bang on.





Cutting my door parts using the Dewalt saw on the Rigid stand with my personal modifications. Every part came out dead square and exactly sized. I put two MFT/3 stops on the fence: one for the rails and another for the stiles. And LED shadow on the blade is better than any laser on the Kapex.  [tongue]





Rebating (Rabbeting?) the panels was easy as pie with this setup:











That's all for now. I'll probably have to put a stop to any further work until after my trip to the Cape on Wednesday for a much needed vacation.

Matt

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2020, 08:33 AM »
Great progress, Matt!  Enjoy the Cape!   [smile]
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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2020, 05:44 AM »


I was able to sneak some time in yesterday. Now I can relax a bit easier knowing it worked out.
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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2020, 11:52 AM »
I'm home from vacation and finding pockets of time here and there to work on the office again. I glued up and mounted the hinges on the other two doors.

After finding the high spot in the room using a laser level and getting all of the boxes positioned and level to each other, I took the outlet cover off and threaded in some extra long screws into the outlet and put a dab of grease on the heads of the screws. I then very carefully butted the PC cabinet up to the screws to transfer their location to the back of the cabinet. From there it was drilling some holes, careful cutting and luckily I nailed it on my first try. I used an outlet extender to keep the outlet protected.









The laser level has been invaluable along with the leveling legs on each box.





I still have to secure the standalone 36" cabinet but I'm taking a break to make sure I get it perfect since it sets the alignment for the countertop to the other wall.

The particle board core, laminate, and edging all arrived this morning. I'm hoping to tackle that this weekend.

This project along with the shutters I did last year and the engine rebuilds I did a quite a few years back have reaffirmed my "Sure, I can do that" mentality. It's just figuring out a bunch of little things as you go. Fake it til you make it.

Matt
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« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2020, 05:33 PM »
Matt, you've done a fine job so far.  It's going to  look great when you are finished.

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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2020, 07:01 PM »
Thanks @Rob Z . It's a learning curve that's for sure.

Today I got going on the countertop. I took the advice of @tjbnwi and made a template. I couldn't get the drywall shims without ordering them in so I grabbed a 4x8 sheet of masonite and ripped it into strips. Starting with the walls I scribed and fit, got my front and side reveals where I wanted and hot glued everything together. Then I took the two templates to some particleboard in the garage and set to copying them with my jigsaw. It turned out pretty darn good for a first attempt at something I've never done before.

I'll build up the counters tomorrow, rout in the channels for the countertop connectors, and laminate them.







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« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2020, 07:40 PM »
I took the outlet cover off and threaded in some extra long screws into the outlet and put a dab of grease on the heads of the screws. I then very carefully butted the PC cabinet up to the screws to transfer their location to the back of the cabinet.

It's looking good Matt... [big grin]

FWIW...when I need to transfer the location of threaded bolts/screws/holes, I just use these and just tap the piece of material with my palm. It leaves a nice small center punch location. These are all easily made on a bench grinder to whatever size you need.




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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2020, 08:30 PM »
Matt, sometimes the "old ways" are better than the new ways.  You can't go wrong with a template.  I think it was about mid-2000's when one of my stone fabricators showed up on-site with a computer to measure for the counters.  The setup included an articulating arm and multiple data points were recorded.  When the counters came, it turned out they didn't fit and the installers had that resigned look of "here we go again".  In talking with them, they told me this was the new way of doing things and they always have to make adjustments.  [blink]  [big grin] As much as the computer gizmo cost, you would think it would work better than the old way of making templates. It wasn't !



Thanks @Rob Z . It's a learning curve that's for sure.

Today I got going on the countertop. I took the advice of @tjbnwi and made a template. I couldn't get the drywall shims without ordering them in so I grabbed a 4x8 sheet of masonite and ripped it into strips. Starting with the walls I scribed and fit, got my front and side reveals where I wanted and hot glued everything together. Then I took the two templates to some particleboard in the garage and set to copying them with my jigsaw. It turned out pretty darn good for a first attempt at something I've never done before.





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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2020, 09:01 PM »
If you don’t want to try to make transfer screws, they are readily available online. Here’s a selection from Amazon. For our purposes, cheaper imports seem to be good enough

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=transfer+screw+set&sprefix=transfer+screw&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_14

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« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2020, 09:49 PM »
Looks fantastic, Matt!  That counter top fit is as close to perfect as you can get!

Agree on the laser.  One of the best tools for any home projects.  I just moved and hung pictures and the laser made getting them aligned easier than I’ve ever done.

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« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2020, 07:43 AM »
@Cheese @rvieceli Thank you for the tips on transfer screws. I think my grease trick worked just as well for this situation.

@Rob Z

I think you're right. Nothing wrong with tried and true.

@neilc I hope you're settling in okay. Moving is hard enough, doing it during a pandemic must be even harder.

I was able to get a bit more done. It's hard working in spurts in between family and work. But that's how it goes.

I set the two countertops upside down and where they needed to be to start on the fastener locations:





The Zipbolt UT 10.500 I'm using call for a 35mm hole bored 20mm deep on each countertop. So I put my 1010 to use with the LR32 hinge boring bit.



Then it was simply routing a path to the edge.



My laminate sheet came in a 5x12 sheet so I broke it down with the TS55 and a solid surface blade:





All trimmed up and ready to go







That last picture is how it sits currently in the office. I haven't put the miter bolt/countertop fasteners in. My question to the group. .when I do the fasteners, if I apply glue to the mating countertop surfaces, this countertop is not coming out of the room unless it's with a sawzall. So do I glue it or not?

Thanks,
Matt
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« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2020, 08:28 AM »
I’d glue it Matt. If you ever need to remove it it’s unlikely to be repurposed in exactly the same configuration. If you cut it along the glue line the two panels would still be useable with the cabinets below.


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« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2020, 09:56 AM »

The Zipbolt UT 10.500 I'm using call for a 35mm hole bored 20mm deep on each countertop. So I put my 1010 to use with the LR32 hinge boring bit.


Good call on using the 1010 for the hole pockets...that takes care of any depth issues.  [smile]

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« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2020, 11:10 AM »
Matt, if you choose to NOT glue the tops together, you can use a flexible seam sealer to fill and conceal the gap.  Being flexible, it will move with any movement between the tops (if there is any).  If you choose to disassemble the tops at some point in the future, they will come apart easily with no damage to either.  SWMBO might find that a better option...   [big grin]
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« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2020, 11:35 AM »
Too late @Sparktrician . I knew about the Seamfil product but in the end I felt glue was the right way to go on this one. Hopefully this counter never needs to come out because if it does that means removing the bookshelves and crown that I plan on building on top. So permanent it is  [big grin]



What I will likely do is when it comes time to build the bookshelves I'll have one of the sides overlap the seam.
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« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2020, 11:40 AM »
Looks like it turned out okay but wondering why you didn’t spread the bolts out farther? And no Dominos?

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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2020, 11:47 AM »
@Michael Kellough - any farther apart and I wouldn't be able to access them from inside the cabinet. Dominos would not work here - These two tops are captured by walls within a room. Very snug fit.

The front half of the seam is as flush as I could possibly hope for with what I had to work with. The back half I'll just cover up with bookshelves.
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« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2020, 12:13 PM »
Too late @Sparktrician . I knew about the Seamfil product but in the end I felt glue was the right way to go on this one. Hopefully this counter never needs to come out because if it does that means removing the bookshelves and crown that I plan on building on top. So permanent it is  [big grin]

What I will likely do is when it comes time to build the bookshelves I'll have one of the sides overlap the seam.

Looking good, Matt!  SWMBO had better be all smiles when you get this one done...   [big grin]
- Willy -

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  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2020, 12:33 PM »
@Michael Kellough - any farther apart and I wouldn't be able to access them from inside the cabinet. Dominos would not work here - These two tops are captured by walls within a room. Very snug fit.

The front half of the seam is as flush as I could possibly hope for with what I had to work with. The back half I'll just cover up with bookshelves.

Got it. As in, I get it now.

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« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2020, 02:52 PM »
I set to tackling the edging on the countertop today. With all of my prep work the corners are all square which helped a great deal in getting the pieces to fit.



Once you have the angles and lengths cut it's as simple as applying glue to the MDF backing, lining up using your finger to feel for any areas it catches the edging, and strapping tape to secure it in place. To get the seamless look I'll have to go back with Seamfil to hide any dark lines. They don't tell you that in the "look how easy this is" product video but it is in the written instructions from Formica.







Unfortunately I hit a snag with the last section. When I did the dry fit I noticed a section about 15-20" long that had the backing appear to protrude past the laminated part of the edging. Upon further inspection and a call to Formica. . .they cut it wrong. I thought about using it and hoping the Seamfil would fix it but I decided it'd annoy me to no end if it didn't work out so I have a replacement claim in the works with my supplier. This is how it ought to look for a dry fit:



And this is the defective part:



It's a shame and I was hoping to wrap the counter up today. Good thing I'm working for myself. That'll probably set me back 3 weeks on the counter if the last order of this stuff is any indication on lead times. I have plenty of other stuff to work on.

Matt
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« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2020, 01:32 PM »
I keep chipping away at this office any free time I get.

A bit off topic: Our attic fan died on us who knows when. You'd think with how much I've been up there I'd have noticed but it wasn't until I was doing my final cleanup and putting insulation back in place last week that I realized it wasn't running on a 100 degree day. An hour or so educating myself on YouTube University and a trip to Home Depot and I set to fixing.

Out with the old:





And in with the new:





It may be confirmation bias but it sure does feel nicer upstairs.

Anyway back to the office.

SeamFil color matched applied on the right vs nothing on left:



It really does a nice job cleaning up the look of everything:



I was able to build my drawer faces and applied end panels in the same shaker style using maple frames:







The end panels are sort of like picture frames. Rabbeted in the back to clamp the MDF to the cabinet carcass when I drive screws into the frame of the end panel from inside the cabinets.

My walls taper in a straight line bottom to top so I used my TS55 to scribe the frames



With fitment of everything confirmed I started filling my mistakes with this product I researched when I built the shutters last year. It's pretty easy to work with and the can will outlast me.



I'm happy to be in the home stretch. Work is picking up so I'm trying my best to get it done. I'm hoping to start with primer and paint soon.

Matt
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« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2020, 03:52 PM »


So that’s why they say electrical connections should be inside boxes, preferably steel.  [eek]

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« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2020, 07:17 PM »


So that’s why they say electrical connections should be inside boxes, preferably steel.  [eek]

Yep. It was (and is now) covered with a metal cover. Picture was taken with it removed.
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« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2020, 11:17 PM »
@DynaGlide  this is looking really good. 

Did you use Target last year for the finish on your shutters?   I'm curious about spraying lacquer over water putty.  I've read that certain things should not go under lacquer, but it sounds like you've done some research.  I am a fan of the water putty. :-)

The seamfil makes a huge difference.

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« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2020, 06:41 AM »
@DynaGlide  this is looking really good. 

Did you use Target last year for the finish on your shutters?   I'm curious about spraying lacquer over water putty.  I've read that certain things should not go under lacquer, but it sounds like you've done some research.  I am a fan of the water putty. :-)

The seamfil makes a huge difference.

Thank you @mrFinpgh . I used SW Wall and Wood and ProClassic last year on the shutters. I really didn't like how much I had to thin it and how the sheen turned out. I was going to use the Target coatings primer and EM6500 but I found out a SW store in the area carries Kem Aqua Plus in 1 gallon yesterday. I'm hoping to get that instead and save the Target for something else. Fingers crossed.

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« Reply #58 on: August 04, 2020, 07:49 AM »
@DynaGlide, that burned wire nut and nicked insulation scared me.   [scared]    Ironically, I had a new roof put on my house yesterday.  I disconnected the old vent fan from inside the attic so the roofers could install the new fan.  In doing so, I found similarly burned wiring inside the box.  Needless to say, I'll be up in the attic shortly to connect the new fan, and it will be done right this time.  Glad it's a rainy day since the attic is most uncomfortable at this time of year. 
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  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

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« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2020, 11:05 AM »
@DynaGlide  and  @Sparktrician

I'm not familiar with that style of fan, where does it go and what does it vent to?  What would be the cause for the high current draw and the burned twist connector? Bad bearings in the fan? Seems if it's bad bearings, then that problem could raise its ugly head again sometime. That'd make me nervous.  [scared]

Locally ridge vents, plain static vents (they look terrible) or large attic fans (24"-30" diameter) turning at a low rpm are popular.



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« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2020, 11:24 AM »
@DynaGlide  and  @Sparktrician

I'm not familiar with that style of fan, where does it go and what does it vent to?  What would be the cause for the high current draw and the burned twist connector? Bad bearings in the fan? Seems if it's bad bearings, then that problem could raise its ugly head again sometime. That'd make me nervous.  [scared]

Locally ridge vents, plain static vents (they look terrible) or large attic fans (24"-30" diameter) turning at a low rpm are popular.

@Cheese, the fan type I mentioned are sometimes called mushroom fans.  Here is one example.  There's a small motor inside the dome.  I think the wiring got burned because whoever wired it in used an older type of wire nut that didn't have the spiral spring inside that really digs into the wire and holds the wires together.  I suspect that over time, a high-resistance short developed and caused the heat that burned the wiring.  All that got fixed this morning when I wired in the new fan.  It's up there spinning merrily away, cooling the attic.  (And I'm out of the attic, scrubbed, clean and smelling a whole lot better now.)   [big grin]
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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #61 on: August 05, 2020, 09:32 AM »
@DynaGlide - your project pictures along with pointers from the likes of Sparktrician are a big helpo for many facing this kind of work.

Your LR-32 Hex bar extension pictures the same solution we developed last year when we ran into the same limitations with the short standard bars and the awkward tightening/releasing of the FESTOOL attachment. We hesitated to put it into production because we were not sure if the market is big enough to justify the effort.

Maybe some other LR-32 users, who would rather do woodworking than building shopmade fixtures, will speak up ? ?

Hans

I definitely want longer bars.  If you use LR-32 just for trivial support pins, it's overkill, but for installing slides it "must have" item. 

Thes

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« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2020, 05:00 PM »
@tjbnwi or anyone else:

I started spraying Kem Aqua Plus surfacer today. I have two coats on and I think I have the application down but I'm running into an issue.



After it's had time to dry there's some bleeding through the Surfacer on some of the Maple pieces.





It's worse on some vs the others. I'm applying the Surfacer wet like a lake and hand sanding w/ 220 between coats. This is only on the Maple frames not on the MDF panels.

I read somewhere I can let it cure overnight and hit it again and it might take care of it before moving onto top coats. Any advice? Not looking to switch to Kilz or equivalent I'd like to stay with the KA+ system as it is designed to work together.

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« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2020, 05:09 PM »
@DynaGlide,

Honestly, I’ve never seen this before.

Wash those areas with denatured alcohol tomorrow. Scuff sand, reshoot.

You may be putting it on to heavy, 5 mils wet is where you want to be.

Any pieces not shot pre-clean with DNA (if you can get Prepsol 3919S or 3812S reducer they work well also). I think this is a contamination issue. 

If you had to do any filling are these areas that were filled? If so what filler did you use? KA does not play well with Timbermate fillers.

Tom

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« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2020, 06:24 PM »
@tjbnwi Upon further inspection all the maple has the spots to some degree. There's no filling in the areas where it's happening. It doesn't happen at all with the mdf panels.

I'm stumped. I'll try cleaning and scuffing and reshooting and see what happens.
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« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2020, 06:31 PM »
I believe it is a contaminate. I've never seen the issue on maple, we use a ton of it (on each build).

Tom

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« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2020, 11:01 PM »
@tjbnwi Tom this is silver maple if that matters. I think I'm experiencing tannin bleed through. The wood was raw and sanded before I started. If it comes to it can I apply bin shellac under either the Surfacer or the top coats of the KA+?
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« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2020, 11:04 PM »
Use Seal Coat. It is a dewaxed shellac. Hopefully you wont need it. I've used Surfacer over oak with no issues.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Zinsser-1-qt-SealCoat-Wood-Sealer-824H/202070456

Tom

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« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2020, 03:38 PM »
@tjbnwi I hope you're in for a laugh. I went to the Depot to try to find the Denatured alcohol. They didn't have it so I said screw it and put another coat on. This time I pulled out the mil gauge. Apparently my definition of "wet like a lake" is more in line with "dry like a desert." The mil gauge barely registered a 1 when I checked with what I was laying down.

I'm going to go ahead and say that was my issue. I got a nice thick coat around 4 mil on all the pieces. I'll have to re-do the backs of the doors before moving on.

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« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2020, 04:25 PM »
Hopefully this solved the issue.

Tom

Offline DynaGlide

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« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2020, 07:50 PM »
All smiles over here @tjbnwi Tom. My biggest issues were the suicidal bugs flying through my spray and some cool weather micro foaming this morning but I worked through it.

For someone that does this as a hobby figuring it out as I go I'm really pleased.



Matt
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Offline tjbnwi

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« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2020, 08:07 PM »
I've said these 2 things many times;

Finishing s the harest thing any woodworker will ever do.

Spary with your ears, not your eyes.

Sand with 240 Garnat Net if you have it.

If something got on the finish between topcoats, denibb it----DO NOT SAND BETWEEN TOP COATS!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom

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« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2020, 09:37 AM »
I've said these 2 things many times;

Finishing s the harest thing any woodworker will ever do.

Spary with your ears, not your eyes.

Sand with 240 Garnat Net if you have it.

If something got on the finish between topcoats, denibb it----DO NOT SAND BETWEEN TOP COATS!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom

All good advice.
Finishing will humble you faster than your partner ever will.
Tim

Offline JeremyH.

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« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2020, 07:12 PM »
Ok I haven't been lurking much lately, posting zero...

And I admit I've just been looking at pictures. Congratulations on getting rid of that closet folding-abomination.

I have to throw a major curve ball in. MAJOR.

Monitor arms. It doesn't look like you planned for them. I'll never live without them again. There's nothing better than opening up the desk space and have ergo viewing. If I moved my office into a room with beautiful cabinets, I'd hack them up any way necessary to implement monitor arms. They need a little space behind them sometimes for how they adjust. At this point I doubt you have a wait to accommodate but truthfully you're obviously very crafty so I wholly suspect I could be very surprised.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2020, 05:36 PM »
I know it's been a while but I just put some of the finishing touches on this week. Baseboard and shoe moulding and swapping some outlets. I just realized I haven't posted any updated pics. I've been using the office since mid August and working on it as I could.

This is what I'll call Phase 1. Next I need to replace the double doors leading to the bedroom with sliding doors then after Christmas I'll build and install bookshelves to go on top of the desk. They will have their own lighting.





After scribing this panel in I made it removable along with the toekick for hiding wires:









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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2020, 05:52 PM »
Great job, Matt.  Is SWMBO happy with the results?   [big grin]
- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)

Offline neilc

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #76 on: October 21, 2020, 10:28 PM »
Nice work!  You put a ton of work into that and the results look great!

Congrats, Matt!

Offline mkasdin

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #77 on: October 22, 2020, 03:33 AM »
@tjbnwi I hope you're in for a laugh. I went to the Depot to try to find the Denatured alcohol. They didn't have it so I said screw it and put another coat on. This time I pulled out the mil gauge. Apparently my definition of "wet like a lake" is more in line with "dry like a desert." The mil gauge barely registered a 1 when I checked with what I was laying down.

I'm going to go ahead and say that was my issue. I got a nice thick coat around 4 mil on all the pieces. I'll have to re-do the backs of the doors before moving on.
denatured alcohol for cleaning is no longer sold. Now labeled as cooking fuel. Amazon sells it by the quart. I ordered 4 quarts, so I should be good for awhile.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Home Office Remodel
« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2020, 09:17 AM »
Great job, Matt.  Is SWMBO happy with the results?   [big grin]

Thank you Willy! Yes she is. I'm still a little taken back that I pulled this off as my first cabinetry project.

1) Never remodeled anything  before
2) Never built a real cabinet or door or drawer outside of Greg Paolini's class
3) Never built a countertop or scribed anything before
4) Never had to paint anything before that had to look this nice. .and first time with SW KA+

There is just no replacement for experience. I already have some thoughts on things I might do differently.


Nice work!  You put a ton of work into that and the results look great!

Congrats, Matt!

Thanks neil!
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