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Offline CarolinaNomad

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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2013, 02:16 PM »
Here's a photo from Google that shows a typical installation of hardwood floors, stained shoe, and painted wainscoting.




Come to think of it, I might have seen this before but didn't notice it because the quarter round almost disappears.
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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2013, 02:32 PM »
Here's a photo from Google that shows a typical installation of hardwood floors, stained shoe, and painted wainscoting.




Someone should have centered that outlet....

Offline skids

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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2013, 02:54 PM »
Here's a photo from Google that shows a typical installation of hardwood floors, stained shoe, and painted wainscoting.




Someone should have centered that outlet....

And unless it's an optical illusion, the boxes look like they are different sizes too. Stairs look nice though.

Honestly, to me it's almost a 6 of 1 half dozen of the other scenario when it comes to the finish on the shoe..I lean a little more towards paint grade since everything else in my house is paint grade and my floors aren't newly finished. They will be (probably 2014) and I am sure I will have to rip this shoe out at that time, so maybe then I will toy with the idea when I do it all at once.

You also run the risk of getting the wrong type of oak when you do it this way. I have white oak floors, and in my area white oak parts of anything are a special order. I hate the idea of red and white oak being laid right on top of each. But then again, 9 out of 10 aren't going to notice. But I will, and I did it, and I have live there.
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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2013, 03:39 PM »
I would go with shoe. Looks a lot better than quarter round in my opinion. I like to see base at bottom of wainscoting.
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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2013, 05:20 PM »
Personally I think more detail will look wrong based on your picture. To me it will look like there should be something more below it. And / or an additional something at the top to balance it out.

I agree that you feel you should have scribed the to the floor and left it at that. So I would be trying to make the shoe (yes actual shoe  molding shape) disappear especially with the wavy floor. Last thing you need is to see a more detailed molding  draw the eye to the waves.

Poly, stain, paint.... do a few sample feet with each and place them in a row along the floor / wall so you can compare to see what works the best.

Qtr. rnd. will  not be noticed by most , but will look wrong to anyone that knows  [wink]


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Seth, I like what you advise about making a sample of each before committing.
I have certainly seen both applications.  How soon are the floors being refinished, btw?  When that happens, the shoe finish will have to be revisited anyways.  If it's left in place, they are going to mar it. Otherwise, you may end up with a scoop/rise to the edges of room.   Many flooring finishers will include floor-matched shoe with the floors. 

Also - yes, 1/4 round looks horrific.  Base shoe is best. 
A more detailed "shoe moulding" would not only be distracting from the rest of your work, but it's also a PITA to clean/maintain.
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Offline skids

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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2013, 07:04 PM »
Got some shoe samples on the way home today..I think I like the shoe best, probably go that route.

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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2013, 07:32 PM »
Painted shoe.  It will look the best.  Stained shoe will stick out like a sore thumb.
+1! 

I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!

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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2013, 07:04 AM »
Here's a photo from Google that shows a typical installation of hardwood floors, stained shoe, and painted wainscoting.

I'm a fan of the oak that matches the floors. It's not an eyesore by any means. Plus it's more resilient to vacuuming along the edges. Something that's painted has a greater chance of taking a noticeable beating!

Bob

It also minimizes the need for scribing by making irregularities far less noticeable.

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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2013, 07:18 AM »
Here it is normal to stain / finish the shoe molding to match the floor.  I think that practice may have come from speed and ease (many times a quick drying finish if just a clear), and also in an effort to trick the eye if there is future movement.  I think that a gap between two similarly colored woods (particularly if they are oriented 90 degrees to each other) creates a shadow line that is not as noticeable as if the situation had two differently colored (white shoe / stain floor) products.

Just something to think about.

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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2013, 07:50 AM »
Thanks guys..Kind of leaning towards this shoe..Anyone ever work with it? Not too fancy right?
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Re: Finish Carpenters, need opinions
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2013, 08:31 AM »
Nice profile.  Around here you can get it in both pine and oak.  I'd go for the oak to match the flooring. 

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