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Offline Alex

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #210 on: June 07, 2021, 05:39 AM »
And finally time to put in the nice floor. Have been waiting months to get to this point.

You start out by making the starting points, literally. Then with these points in place you can progress with the rest of the floor. The boards have a Left and a Right direction, so you have to alternate them constantly. This makes it quite a bit of a challange compared to normal, straight laminate. It also means you have to cut a lot more boards to size, and always think in angles. I have to admit, I have screwed up quite a few boards by cutting them in the wrong direction.



But once you have a starting point, progression goes quickly. Only thing that takes a lot of time is cutting the boards along the wall to the proper size.



It was raining outside that day, so I had to put the CS70 inside for cutting. I don't really like that, but what can you do.



I decided to let everything run over the entire floor, also in the kitchen. Normally, wooden laminate isn't the best choice in the kitchen because it is not waterproof. But PVC laminate is. I only put in a patch of plastic stucloper in front of the sink to protect the floor under it.



Almost done now.



And the hallway also.






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Offline Alex

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #211 on: June 07, 2021, 06:46 AM »
The stairs needed a lot of work. Originally it had carpet on it, but this 70's pattern had to go. I thought it was nice if it also had PVC laminate on it.

What a work, the stairs was in a very used shape, a few layers of paint on it, carpet, and carpet glue. Especially the glue was very hard and difficult to remove. Also a few nails sticking out from the underside. Never knew that with the carpet on it, but the original installers in 1938 didn't give a hoot and used nails that were a few mm too long so they stuck out in some places. I had to cut those points all away. The treads were also severely cupped in the middle due to the pressure of 80 years of use. And 80 years worth of dings and scratches.

I think it took me 12 hours of sanding to make this all better.

And just this week I lend the RAS to a carpenter buddy of mine. I thought I could do it with the Rotex, but it wasn't up to the task. I resorted to the EHL 65 planer and the Protool angle grinder with a flap disc. That worked faster, but it became very messy again. I have a nack for that.

I had removed some of the carpet when I painted the sides of the stairs, I didn't yet knew then what to do with it.



Removed the last carpet from the treads. Then the sanding began. Horror job. Difficult to access all spots, and the dried up glue was very hard. This is what happens to your paper if you hit a nail.



Slowly but surely I go on. The DTS was best here to get into all the corners.



Close up of a tread. The dark grey stuff is glue, and it is as hard as concrete.



I could not get it away with the Rotex so I switched to the angle grinder. This became very messy, and then tried the planer in the spots where I could reach. Eventually it worked out, after many hours of sanding. Removed most of the cupping, essential when you want to put laminate on it.





The tools used.





The entire hallway was filled with a layer of dust. Good I had a respirator.



Then it was time to put the first groundcoat on it. After this, I had to fill all the dings and holes with putty and sand it all again. I used Sigma oil based primer and when that ran out, I switched to Sikkens.



But in the end it is worth all the effort. Quite the difference.


   

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #212 on: June 07, 2021, 06:56 AM »
That looks really nice Alex. Great job.

Are you keeping the house when you are done?

Ron

Offline Alex

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #213 on: June 07, 2021, 07:23 AM »
Now I had to install laminate on the treads.

To get the exact shape of the tread I made a template out of "stucloper", as we call it, which is a type of plastic to protect the floor when you work.

First you cut it so it covers the tread entirely, except on the edges, and then tape up the edges exactly along the sides. This way it is easy to get the right shape. There are more ways to do this, but this is what worked for me.

Because of the PVC laminate's thin nature, I first had to install a sub board of normal laminate again, or it would become a mess.





You take the template and stick it on a board, and transfer the shape with a pencil. And then you cut it. Most treads were bigger than a single board so I had to join two together.



And this is how it looks installed. Not glued together yet as I need the treads as a template for the next layer.



And this layer is done. It doesn't look half bad, but because it is wood it is very noisy to walk on, and it is also very smooth and slippery, no grip at all and pretty dangerous to walk on actually.





So on to the final layer.

Now I have to use the treads I made previously as template. I cut the PVC boards to size and put them on it to cover it completely, put the wooden template on top, and cut out the shape with the MultiMaster. This worked out fine and gave me very sharp edges.





And the new PVC top layer of the tread installed. This looks great, and is very nice to walk on because it has a very pronounced texture that gives you good grip. It is also very quiet. Now I can glue it all together.

I love how the lighting differences between top and bottom give it this gradient from yellowish on the bottom to reddish on top.







Offline Alex

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #214 on: June 07, 2021, 07:38 AM »
That looks really nice Alex. Great job.

Are you keeping the house when you are done?

Ron

Hi Ron, Thanks.

It is not my property, long story because the inheritence had to be divided. I'd like to keep on living in it, but it looks like I'm going to get kicked out because I had no work thanks to my government's lockdown from december to may and could not pay my rent. Court case against me is this friday and I could be evicted in a matter of days.

Until then, I keep the faith it is going to be alright.

I worked my ass off last year because I had a lot of work. Government imposes lockdown, and all work falls away for me. 3 clients withdrew because their businesses were also shut down. Early may the lockdown is lifted, I get 10 jobs in 2 weeks time which will keep me occupied for the next 6 months. But the damage is done.


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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #215 on: June 07, 2021, 07:58 AM »
And it basically all finished now. Just a bit of paint work here and there, like the radiator and a bit of touching up on a wall.




















Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #216 on: June 07, 2021, 08:31 AM »
What a great job, Alex!  I especially like the way you handled the stairs.   [smile]
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Offline Alex

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #217 on: June 07, 2021, 09:46 AM »
Thanks Sparky!  [smile]

Offline pixelated

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #218 on: June 07, 2021, 10:55 AM »
Very nice! This has been quite the transformation.

Offline dicktill

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #219 on: June 07, 2021, 11:54 AM »
That looks really nice Alex. Great job.

Are you keeping the house when you are done?

Ron

Hi Ron, Thanks.

It is not my property, long story because the inheritence had to be divided. I'd like to keep on living in it, but it looks like I'm going to get kicked out because I had no work thanks to my government's lockdown from december to may and could not pay my rent. Court case against me is this friday and I could be evicted in a matter of days.

Until then, I keep the faith it is going to be alright.

I worked my ass off last year because I had a lot of work. Government imposes lockdown, and all work falls away for me. 3 clients withdrew because their businesses were also shut down. Early may the lockdown is lifted, I get 10 jobs in 2 weeks time which will keep me occupied for the next 6 months. But the damage is done.

OMG! All that time and money spent on this beautiful home-improvement and you don't own it, and even might be evicted? Just doesn't seem right. Best of luck!

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #220 on: June 07, 2021, 06:03 PM »
Looks like the value of the improvements you’ve made would be greater than the back rent... the

Offline Alex

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #221 on: June 08, 2021, 12:46 AM »
Looks like the value of the improvements you’ve made would be greater than the back rent... the

Yeah, one would think that.

Offline mino

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #222 on: June 08, 2021, 07:19 AM »
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Government imposes lockdown, and all work falls away for me. 3 clients withdrew because their businesses were also shut down. Early may the lockdown is lifted ...
Was there no compensation by the government for the lock-down? I would assume you would be legally eligible for any damage caused in such a case if not directly compensated.

Over here there was a blanket compensation program for the one man bands where if your income was cut by more than 50% compared to pre-covid, you could claim a flat-rate compensation of about €1000/mo. Over in NL would be about €3k/mo which should be enough to cover the base rent stuff.

It was a pretty simple system, when if one was not impacted as much as assumed he would have to return part or whole of the compensation ex post. But it was provided immediately precisely to cover cash-flow issues like yours.


Not sure how is in NL, but I assume the improvement to the floor was with the awareness if not a direct consent of the house owner. Even if was not agreed to be financially compensated. I would get a lawyer and claim compensation in a formal way - if anything to improve your position vis-a-vis an out of court settlement.

Even if the material was free, your time is not and you should be able to count that at "average" rates given you are a professional in the field and how well you documented the work required.
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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #223 on: June 08, 2021, 10:33 AM »
mino, I am not a company. I am a private person in a somewhat exceptional situation. I am not eligible for any compensation as far as I know.

As for a lawyer, I have one, or should I say, it seems now I had one. It is my lawyer who was a mutual acquaintance of my cousins and the new owner of the house and brokered the deal when it was sold. He was the one who came with the idea for me to fix the place up. I've been trying to reach him the last few days but my calls are not returned.


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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #224 on: June 11, 2021, 10:57 AM »
looks like a real nice job Alex.

Sorry I havent followed this thread ,but Im going to go through it and check out the progress.

Again nice job

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #225 on: June 11, 2021, 12:24 PM »
Great improvement Alex. Lots of hours in this project for sure. The stairs alone were an undertaking. Those things make me dizzy thinking about traversing them in the dark.  [scared]

Floor looks great and the kitchen upgrades all look good too with better use of space and a fresh, up to date look.
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Re: Alex's Major Home Improvement Thread
« Reply #226 on: June 11, 2021, 01:54 PM »
Thanks guys.  [smile]