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GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Hand Tools => Topic started by: Guilliaume woodworks on June 25, 2013, 12:25 AM

Title: I actually use this
Post by: Guilliaume woodworks on June 25, 2013, 12:25 AM
From time to time I get a job where I can break out this old Lion trimmer. It's super sharp and is great for very fine trimming of small mouldings. The fences are adjustable for miter cuts with stops at 90 & 45 degrees. It's really sweet when scms is clear across jobsite and you need a quick trim for perfect  miter.
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: jmbfestool on June 25, 2013, 02:15 AM
I have one my self!

Brilliant for doing beading!  Better than setting a chop saw up less mess!  You can have it right next to you so no need to keep going back and forth.   Cleaner cuts!

It's a must have tool!
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: Davej on June 25, 2013, 03:56 AM
JMB what make is yours . i was thinking of getting one myself , they look very handy for trim work where my scms is a bit overkill 
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: jmbfestool on June 25, 2013, 04:00 AM
This is mine Dave.   It's a bit dusty not used it for a bit!  When I do I love it well worth it!
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/25/vymy3e2e.jpg)
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: RonWen on June 25, 2013, 05:47 AM
I bought one of the original Lion Trimmers -- very precise for removing the slightest amounts.  [thumbs up]
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: Kev on June 25, 2013, 08:17 AM
JMB what make is yours . i was thinking of getting one myself , they look very handy for trim work where my scms is a bit overkill 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Axcaliber-MT1-Mitre-Trimmer-/190593740505?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6045aed9 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Axcaliber-MT1-Mitre-Trimmer-/190593740505?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6045aed9)
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: Tom Bellemare on June 25, 2013, 10:51 AM
JMB, I can't believe you'd get the model that doesn't have dust extraction capabilities?


Tom
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: jmbfestool on June 25, 2013, 02:09 PM
JMB what make is yours . i was thinking of getting one myself , they look very handy for trim work where my scms is a bit overkill 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Axcaliber-MT1-Mitre-Trimmer-/190593740505?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6045aed9 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Axcaliber-MT1-Mitre-Trimmer-/190593740505?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6045aed9)

Or Axminster  sells them

Jmb
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: jmbfestool on June 25, 2013, 02:10 PM
JMB, I can't believe you'd get the model that doesn't have dust extraction capabilities?


Tom

If I had know about the extraction model one I would of bought it!   Pointless but I would of bought it still [embarassed]
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: Jalvis on June 25, 2013, 02:29 PM
What advantages do you find using a shear rather than a mitered shooting board?
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: Davej on June 25, 2013, 02:57 PM
JMB what make is yours . i was thinking of getting one myself , they look very handy for trim work where my scms is a bit overkill 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Axcaliber-MT1-Mitre-Trimmer-/190593740505?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6045aed9 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Axcaliber-MT1-Mitre-Trimmer-/190593740505?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2c6045aed9)

Or Axminster  sells them

Jmb


Axminster was where I was playing with one.  Looks like you've already got one with dust extraction ,  in that it extracts all available dust from the surrounding area and dumps it on itself  [eek]
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: Tom Bellemare on June 25, 2013, 03:19 PM
I think that feature is called Dust Attraction.


Tom
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: scholar on June 25, 2013, 03:51 PM
What advantages do you find using a shear rather than a mitered shooting board?

I don't have a mitred shooting board so that is one advantage...

One thing I find very useful with the shear (I have a rather old Axminster model) is the ability to adjust the angle of the stop to get the cut spot on - I guess it would be a fancy mitred shooting board that would enable that.  (I mostly use this for mouldings on panelled doors - not always perfectly square).

Cheers


Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: jmbfestool on June 25, 2013, 05:35 PM
What advantages do you find using a shear rather than a mitered shooting board?


I would say easy adjustment of any angle.

But also small moulds you can take alot of material off like a chop saw.  

So if you have a square end on piece of timber you can cut a mitre on the end in one chop a shooting board would take some time to get the angle from a sqaure end.  

I find this really handy because you can just hand saw roughly to length and stick a mitre on the piece of mould very quickly.

So its kinda more than a trimmer.

Jmb
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: Wooden Lungs on June 26, 2013, 01:04 PM
Takes me back to my apprenticeship in London!!!! that was the last time I used one of these. The one we had in the Joinery was a stand alone unit operated by a foot pedal. Fantastic for micro adjusting mitre etc. Did'nt realise you could get a small portable version  [smile] thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: jmarkflesher on June 26, 2013, 08:34 PM
I have a Lion, 25 years old. Just  got a Dosch to sell. It's dirty but with a good cleaning will be like new. I'll show picture in classified. MARK
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: jmarkflesher on June 28, 2013, 03:52 PM
Posted pictures in classified but found a broken foot. Seems to be an easy fix. MARK
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: farms100 on July 03, 2013, 06:49 PM
Love my lion miter trimmer..

at my work we use a foot operated double miter trimmer daily.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=hhVpgt2-NE4HZM&tbnid=dHKoHXpDDgKpLM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woodworkforums.com%2Ff221%2Fmorso-foot-operated-guillotine-mitre-cutter-116144%2F&ei=GKrUUZKYOMPO0QG9g4GgCw&bvm=bv.48705608,d.dmQ&psig=AFQjCNE9Gi9wTYTeBy8cYv8STLAfngZgWw&ust=1372978056064651 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=hhVpgt2-NE4HZM&tbnid=dHKoHXpDDgKpLM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woodworkforums.com%2Ff221%2Fmorso-foot-operated-guillotine-mitre-cutter-116144%2F&ei=GKrUUZKYOMPO0QG9g4GgCw&bvm=bv.48705608,d.dmQ&psig=AFQjCNE9Gi9wTYTeBy8cYv8STLAfngZgWw&ust=1372978056064651)
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: barnowl on July 04, 2013, 09:04 AM
I used mine for my last project, which has mitered raised front panels for doors and drawer fronts.

Rough cut them to within 1/8" or less with the Kapex, trimmed them with the trimmer, and used 4mm dominoes to lock the miters together.

Checking for fit and spacing:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/SeaRay300/DSC03490.jpg) (http://s107.photobucket.com/user/SeaRay300/media/DSC03490.jpg.html)

Ready for dying:

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/SeaRay300/DSC03501.jpg) (http://s107.photobucket.com/user/SeaRay300/media/DSC03501.jpg.html)

Dyed, before the finish...

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/SeaRay300/DSC03505.jpg) (http://s107.photobucket.com/user/SeaRay300/media/DSC03505.jpg.html)
Title: Re: I actually use this
Post by: Kevin D. on July 04, 2013, 10:23 AM
Lee Valley sells those.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32922&cat=1,42884 (http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32922&cat=1,42884)

(NOTE: Canadian site link)