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Offline derekcohen

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Tool footnotes
« on: August 02, 2020, 01:33 PM »
What emotion do you experience when you read a post followed by a footnote containing all the tools owned by the poster?

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Offline six-point socket II

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2020, 02:10 PM »
Emotion? None. I don't care.

If it were for a lot more people doing it, I think it would make sense to have a profile function - as some other forums I frequent do - to list a "collection". So people that are interested can look it up.

Personally - and I know it's a stretch given how many pictures I have posted over time, and that I was once active on IG - I think it can draw a lot of unwanted attention nowadays. Especially for those that have posted - in more detail - about their location. Targeted robberies, it's not unheard of, and it has happened before, again, in other forums I frequent.

Kind regards,
Oliver

« Last Edit: August 02, 2020, 02:18 PM by six-point socket II »
Kind regards,
Oliver

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Offline TwelvebyTwenty

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2020, 02:34 PM »
No emotional response. But sometimes I do judge people based on certain Festool tools they own.

There are some gems in the Festool range, but also some tools are just overpriced and outgunned compared to their competitors. So I sometimes question the judgement of people who seem to just base their purchase decisions on affinity to the brand, and are prepared to pay more for less performance, rather than favour practical considerations.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2020, 02:58 PM by TwelvebyTwenty »

Offline neilc

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2020, 02:34 PM »
Agree with Oliver, plus to me it just adds more scrolling to the page on the forums where you just want to see the details (and photos!) relating to the project.  Let the work bring the credibility!

I do own a hammer, however.

neil

Online rmhinden

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2020, 02:46 PM »
What emotion do you experience when you read a post followed by a footnote containing all the tools owned by the poster?

I mostly ignore it and don't do it myself.

Bob

Offline Wooden Skye

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2020, 02:56 PM »
Don't really think about it, reminds me I need to update mine. 
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Offline six-point socket II

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2020, 02:58 PM »
No emotional response. But sometimes I do judge people based on certain Festool tools they own.

There are some gems in the Festool range, but also some tools are just overpriced and outgunned compared to their competitors. So I sometimes question the judgement of people who seem to just base their purchase decisions on affinity to the brand rather than practical considerations.

Then I got a gem of unsolicited advice for you: Assume less, know more. Before judging or jumping to conclusions.

Kind regards,
Oliver
Kind regards,
Oliver

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Offline TwelvebyTwenty

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2020, 03:07 PM »
No emotional response. But sometimes I do judge people based on certain Festool tools they own.

There are some gems in the Festool range, but also some tools are just overpriced and outgunned compared to their competitors. So I sometimes question the judgement of people who seem to just base their purchase decisions on affinity to the brand rather than practical considerations.

Then I got a gem of unsolicited advice for you: Assume less, know more. Before judging or jumping to conclusions.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Thanks Oliver, a gem of a piece of advice there. Let me go and find a piece of stone to carve it into. Maybe there's a Festool for that.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2020, 04:50 PM by TwelvebyTwenty »

Offline Alex

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2020, 03:15 PM »
I don't care about the tool lists. I've got the forum settings set to not display user signatures. I severly dislike the extra fluff/clutter and I am happy you can turn them off.

When I just got into Festool and became part of this group I did feel excited about letting the list of tools in my signature grow, but at some point it lost my interest and I disabled my signature.

By the way, I've learned that some people here have a very long list, but never seem to do anything with all those tools they own. Some people are just tool collectors and want them to sit pretty on the shelf. Each to his own of course, but I only keep tools that I actually use.

From their activity on this forum you see by yourself who actually does something with his tools, OP's a good example, and I don't need to know how many tools they have exactly. I just like to enjoy their work and their knowledge.

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2020, 04:50 PM »
None that impacts or matter - apart from the list (a very comprehensive one) you had today:
“Oh my.. that’s just too much to read of irrelevant info! [scared])

On the other hand, user experience with Festool tools are at home at a place like FOG.
Although there is a lot more to it than that in here! And from my point of view I think it adds to FOG being a diversity of a woodworkers forum with exciting projects shown, down to the mechanics of tools. I think it just makes it more exciting. Variation aspires.

I did start on a signature, but discarded it very soon. It is of little relevance. A long signature (Read: Long list of tools) “contaminates” in a way that it’s filling pages with non relevant writing to the posts. So if you will, in that regards it annoys, especially when reading on small screens like phones and tablets - in wich I do.  [smile]
Regardless, it’s a tool forum with loads of expertise in both tools and woodworking.
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Offline demographic

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2020, 06:13 PM »
Emotion?

Mild irritation mostly. It's  not something I see as relevant and for me kind of clutters things up slightly

Other peoples mileage may vary.

Offline RJNeal

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2020, 06:24 PM »
My thought are it’s ok if people want to post their tools just say what the darn thing is and leave out the BS. Like a Kapex is a Kapex regardless of the numbers and letters after the item.
I chose not to advertise my tools.
Rick
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2020, 07:34 PM »
Interesting question (and your made-up list is funny [laughing]).

I'm aware of those footnotes, but seldom pay attention to them. If they're very long, they give me the impression (not necessarily correct, of course) that the owners, if hobbyists, have too many tools by my standards, or tend to be hoarders.

I don't have any footnotes, but if I was going to have one, it'd be a (long) list of furniture/woodworking projects I have done.

If you ask me, I'd admire those who have a very short list of tools, but accompanied by a lengthy list of completed projects. That'd be a statement of skills and creative ability. A long list of fancy machines or premium tools per se doesn't convey a lot to me as a woodworker.

But footnotes or no footnotes, they don't bother me.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2020, 07:49 PM by ChuckM »

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2020, 08:48 PM »
Dont really care . I did that when I first started posting to make me look legit here then I realized doesnt matter

Offline ScotF

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2020, 12:58 AM »
Don't do it on this forum and do not really care. I do post it on another forum only because it is a lesser known brand and I want people to be able to ping me with questions on a tool should they have them.

Offline Jeff Zanin

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2020, 05:34 PM »
It doesn't bother me but I don't pay any attention to it unless there is a specific reason.  I mostly use a desktop with a big screen, not sure if this shows up on mobile / tablet but I would think it would be annoying on a smaller screen.

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2020, 07:34 PM »
@six-point socket II


Then I got a gem of unsolicited advice for you: Assume less, know more. Before judging or jumping to conclusions.


Oliver , that was awesome

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2020, 08:50 PM »
I don't care about the tool lists. I've got the forum settings set to not display user signatures. I severly dislike the extra fluff/clutter and I am happy you can turn them off.

Snip.

I didn't know that such a feature exists. Learned something new. [thumbs up]

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2020, 06:55 AM »
Well, as most of you can see, I have a sig with a (chronological) summation of my tools (I did omit the Systainers and such…). My reasoning: I rate the opinion of someone who owns a certain tool higher when that tool is discussed. OTH the ‘Member since…’ is an indication of the experience a forum member has. Together with the accrued experience of reading ppl’s posts I can have an informed opinion about the postings and replies of members. Less stress and grief!

I have been a moderator on a Forum dedicated to Mac-users (QuarkXPress!) & the fact that I have been one since 1989 and had extensive experience with the foremost dtp-apps, made a difference. A padwan would rather have a master as a sensei than a beginner, right?

BTW I did downsize the type for the sig after I saw that tip. The amount of screen real estate it took up did bother me. : ) But I will follow this thread closely and possibly rethink my reasoning.
Cheers, Bert Vanderveen

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Offline Gregor

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2020, 07:06 AM »
By the way, I've learned that some people here have a very long list, but never seem to do anything with all those tools they own.
What metric do you measure to reach this conclusion?

Offline Nailed IT

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2020, 08:36 AM »
I always liked the fact that people on this forum can express themselves how ever they like without judgement.
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Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2020, 10:52 AM »
I thought having your Festool tools listed in your signature was useful when soliciting advice about a particular project.  People replying will know what tools you have available, but it sounds like a lot of people completely ignore the signatures so maybe it's not that useful.
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Offline morts10n

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2020, 11:35 AM »
The footnotes where users listed their current line up was actually interesting about 10 or 12 years ago. If you already had 4 or 5 Festools and 6 or 7 systainers, you were considered halfway drunk on green KoolAid. It was just a way to show off a bit, and it still may be. Fairly useless now tho, as many of us are in deep and less impressed by the volume of any collection

Offline derekcohen

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Re: Tool footnotes
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2020, 12:14 PM »
I was curious what others thought. The style may have begun years ago as a bit of fun, but now it looks vulgar to me - too much like someone trying to look like something they are not ... more of a collector than a user. I judge a woodworker by what they build and not by the tools they own. Or by the quality and insight of the advice they offer.

Regards from Perth

Derek