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Offline HowardH

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Shop finds
« on: March 18, 2020, 11:04 AM »
Like a lot of you, I have had more time off lately so I have been busying myself in the shop.  We moved into our current house almost 7 years ago and I really haven't done much shop organization and I'm going to try to go through it since I have added a lot of new stuff since then.  I have been finding tools in weird places that I forgot that I had.  That has caused some consternation as I now have duplicates of a number things. :o. How about you guys?  How much accidental duplication do you have? 
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2020, 12:07 PM »
It's almost inevitable that I'll not be able to find one item, so I go out and buy another of the same thing.  When I get back to the shop, I'll find the original item that I couldn't find within 10 minutes.  Can't blame my dog - she doesn't know how to unlock the tool boxes.  Can't blame a mischievous spouse - I fired the last one many years ago. 

Quite a few years ago, I decided to clean the mechanism in my Herbrand 1/2" drive, 18" ratchet.  I very carefully disassembled it, but the detent ball spring decided to escape with a "sproing".  I looked everywhere, but couldn't find it.  Herbrand went out of business years prior, so I couldn't buy a replacement.  OK, I put the cleaned parts in a zip-lock bag and taped the bag to the ratchet handle.  15 years and two moves later, I was cleaning out one of my roll-around tool cabinets when I found a loose spring in a drawer.  There was no question as to where it had come from, so I reassembled the ratchet with some good lubricant.  That was over 30 years ago, and the ratchet is still with me, and is working perfectly.  Since that incident, I make a point of disassembling ratchets and the like inside a large zip-lock bag that manages to contain random escape attempts. 
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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2020, 12:40 PM »
For me it's the little things, like paint tape. Each time I need it, I can't find a roll. At this day I have 7 or 8 rolls all inside a systainer. NOW I know where the paint tape is  [big grin]
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Offline jeffinsgf

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2020, 01:08 PM »
At one time I had three sets of everything...we had two road show set-ups and my personal tools at home. When we stopped doing the Woodworking Shows, everything ended up back in the shop, but then we moved...twice. Now I'm trying to organize my shop to be at least a little bit efficient, and as I get out and set stuff up, I am finding that I have at least 3 of darn near every hand tool imaginable. Knowing that, it still amazes me that there are things I know I have (possibly 3) that I cannot find no matter how diligently I look.

Other times, I'm standing there with three of something, knowing that I should give away or sell at least two of them.

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2020, 04:41 PM »
I have had the opposite happen to me. Everytime i rearrange the shop  lose things and cant find the. Evenafter I bought a label machine.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2020, 04:52 PM »
For me it's the little things, like paint tape. Each time I need it, I can't find a roll. At this day I have 7 or 8 rolls all inside a systainer. NOW I know where the paint tape is  [big grin]

I would take a lesson from COVID19 and practice tape distancing. Stash each roll in a different place. That way you have 7 chances of finding one of them vice one chance of finding all 7.   [big grin]
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Offline pixelated

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2020, 05:05 PM »
i have come to the conclusion that certain tools exist multiple dimensions and so will randomly come into existence here and then disappear and show up on my analog's workbench in some other reality. Some tools are more prone to this than others, for example, I "own" about 5 utility knives, but at any given time, I can only find 1, two if I'm lucky.

Offline HowardH

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2020, 05:08 PM »
i have come to the conclusion that certain tools exist multiple dimensions and so will randomly come into existence here and then disappear and show up on my analog's workbench in some other reality. Some tools are more prone to this than others, for example, I "own" about 5 utility knives, but at any given time, I can only find 1, two if I'm lucky.

Tape measures for me.  Got a bunch.  Can never find one.
Howard H
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2020, 09:24 PM »
Channel-locks for me. They're never around when I need them but I have at least 6 pair in various sizes.
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Offline Kevin C.

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2020, 11:19 PM »
I was always taught that:
 Two is one, one is none and three is for me.
 Redundancy is a good thing. I probably have 12 utility knives and can't keep track of them. Some tools just seem to disappear. Tape measures, utility knives and pencils most often.

Offline kmickey

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2020, 12:58 AM »
You must have worked in USN/USMC aircraft squadrons.

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2020, 04:29 PM »
Folding rulers, pencils, small screwdrivers (Pinkie size) and now FT measuring tapes.
5 or more (Even doble that) is my way of having at least one at hand. I have 3 work trousers, carpenter type (I notice most of you don’t use these over there) wich I vary all after what I’m doing. They all have ready-filled pockets with these essential items  [smile]
I’ve advanced a little and added a canvas apron as well, of course outfitted with the same items. Really, an apron or trousers you’ll hang till next time you step into them with these important tools (of your choice) actually works - all tools in a regular space of your choice. I learned this from my well organised uncle who’s a carpenter as well as a cabinet maker. Good tip.. I swear by ”Snickers“ and ”Blaklader” two Swedish high quality brands. You’ll probably have ”Carhartt”?
As for those other items, I’m a bit lost now, too much in cardboard boxes after moving house. I know I have stuff, but after a half hour looking I give up and buy new before caving in [scared] Reading your posts make me a little calmer - thank you! I’m not alone!
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Offline Alanbach

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2020, 10:50 PM »
@HowardH - This one’s for you! I know, I have a problem and there are probably 10 more scattered about the house and in various tool bags.

Offline Alanbach

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2020, 10:52 PM »
@pixelated - and this one’s for you!

Offline Alanbach

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2020, 10:53 PM »
Great and their both upside down...sorry!

Offline jjowen

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2020, 11:16 PM »
We must use different parts of the brain when we are looking for something and when we are putting something away; we look for something, but can't find it so we buy another one. Then we go to put the new one away and immediately find the old one.
When I am looking for something, I have taken to imagining that I have it and I want to put it away. That is where it is!  [tongue]
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Offline jjowen

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2020, 11:22 PM »
i have come to the conclusion that certain tools exist multiple dimensions and so will randomly come into existence here and then disappear and show up on my analog's workbench in some other reality. Some tools are more prone to this than others, for example, I "own" about 5 utility knives, but at any given time, I can only find 1, two if I'm lucky.

I think Heisenberg developed his uncertainty principle when sorting out his workshop. I could be wrong.
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Offline jeffinsgf

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2020, 08:43 AM »
I really feel a lot better about my diminished capacity after reading this thread. I no longer feel so lonely.  [blink]

Offline HowardH

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2020, 09:03 AM »
i have come to the conclusion that certain tools exist multiple dimensions and so will randomly come into existence here and then disappear and show up on my analog's workbench in some other reality. Some tools are more prone to this than others, for example, I "own" about 5 utility knives, but at any given time, I can only find 1, two if I'm lucky.

I think Heisenberg developed his uncertainty principle when sorting out his workshop. I could be wrong.

I thought you were referring to Walter White.   8) 8)
Howard H
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Offline mike_aa

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2020, 01:48 PM »
Just before this thread started I had to order another accessory scraper for my LS 130 to replace the new one I have that has somehow disappeared from my basement.  So do you think it went to another dimension, soon to magically reappear at a later date?   [eek]

Offline c_dwyer

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2020, 02:26 PM »
I was painting an old sash window last week, and needed to clean the paint off the glass where I missed with the tape. I looked everywhere for the razor blade scraper, gave up, and drove down to the local orange box store to get another one.

Started in on another project this week and found two more. I swear they weren't there when I looked for them before.

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2020, 02:49 PM »
Just before this thread started I had to order another accessory scraper for my LS 130 to replace the new one I have that has somehow disappeared from my basement.  So do you think it went to another dimension, soon to magically reappear at a later date?   [eek]

It will mystically re-appear about 20 minutes after you unwrap the replacement part.  If you listen quietly, you may hear muffled giggling in the background when you find the original part...   [big grin]
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Offline mike_aa

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2020, 03:07 PM »
Just before this thread started I had to order another accessory scraper for my LS 130 to replace the new one I have that has somehow disappeared from my basement.  So do you think it went to another dimension, soon to magically reappear at a later date?   [eek]

It will mystically re-appear about 20 minutes after you unwrap the replacement part.  If you listen quietly, you may hear muffled giggling in the background when you find the original part...   [big grin]

Yes, that's happened often before!  And I do have to say that while searching the other day, I came across three tape measures I couldn't find last week and a pair of flush cutters I forgot about!   [big grin]


Offline PaulMarcel

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2020, 03:34 PM »
I searched for 2 days for the air hose for the VacuPress. Ordered a replacement, used it the day it arrived, then went to put it away where I'd never lose it... wait, what's there? oh, the previous hose.
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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2020, 04:16 PM »
Missing pieces and accessories are one reason that Systainers that hold the tool and all attachments are great! Or an add on accessory Sys that attaches to the tool Sys. 

Then be sure to put the stuff back in the Systainer when you are done.

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Offline gunnyr

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2020, 04:47 PM »
In the last two months I have lost:
  • 2 Swiss Army knives (I had two because I could only ever find one at a time.....)
  • 1 Utility Knife
  • 1 Check Book
  • 2 watch caps
  • Several rolls of tape
I now have replaced the Swiss Army knives. 
Still looking for the Utility Knife.
Check book is still MIA
The watch caps reappeared at some unknown point (I suspect Molly the GoldenDoodle was involved in that particular caper) ;D
I currently have several rolls of tape, not sure if they are replacements or the originals.....

My head is still firmly attached; the mind continues to wander about freely making occasional cameo appearances......
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2020, 05:31 PM »
It’s a constant problem. It’s why I have at least one tape measure in nearly every room in the house. My wife has noticed and said “Why don’t you consolidate them in one place?”  [tongue]

Working in my shop requires first playing a game of 3D Tetris. Everything smaller enough to fit on a shelf but can’t find a space is stacked on dolly’s. I try to keep the footprint equal to the Sys Dolly. There are five Sys Dolly’s with about 7 feet of Systainer on each one. (Not all Festools)

Sometimes it’s more efficient to go buy another thing than to bring the specific Systainer that already has one of those things front and center.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Shop finds - Free shipping at Lee Valley
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2020, 07:31 PM »
Title says it. An easy way to replace those missing things.

Offline Vtshopdog

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2020, 07:57 PM »
I have repeatedly lost a nice little folding Felco tree saw with a red plastic handle.  I only use it a once a year, my brain is somehow convinced that the handle is black and more than once when I go-a-looking I will glance right over it  in its usual spot because the saw is red and I'm looking for a black one - DUH!

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Shop finds
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2020, 09:14 PM »
Inter-dimensional tools are a thing.  I've come to that conclusion many times.

I find one of the bad offenders are tools like levels, since you have a habit of setting them on something and leaving it there, and forgetting it. say on top of something above your head. Levels with magnets are bad too.  I've had many a small level disapear for weeks just to re-appear on the side of a metal electrical box.

One thing about buying lots of tape measures, pencils, pens, sharpies is while you think it means you will have one handy, it just means you leave them in one spot because to know you have one in another spot where you are going. Works good until you forget and take one with you, now there are 2 at the other location and so on and so forth this gets worse. Now you have no tape measures/pencils/sharpies but in one place there is a pile of 5 tapes, 3 pencils and 14 sharpies that have dried out with the cap off because you just set it down for a second.

For tools, this gets to the heart of Systainers, all the bits and bobs in one box including spares, or tools needed for the tools.  For non-festool stuff I put everything in systainers and stock each one with the tools it needs, so if it needs some other thing like a screw driver or a wrench, I buy one and put it in there with it. No more tearing the play apart to find the spanner for an angle grinder or a wrench for a router, every tool gets the stuff it needs in a systainer.