Author Topic: Shop Dog  (Read 34735 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Darren Hill

  • Posts: 50
Shop Dog
« on: March 02, 2012, 10:01 PM »
Darren Hill
DH Contracting
www.dhcontracting.ca

Offline fritter63

  • Retailer
  • *
  • Posts: 1433
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 10:18 PM »
48409-0

Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2012, 02:29 AM »
Aww looks like he's crapping himself up ontop of your bench. 

Jmb
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline Kev

  • Posts: 7652
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2012, 02:47 AM »
Aww looks like he's crapping himself up ontop of your bench. 

Jmb

You should have seen the shot in the vice - good job they made him take it down  [scared]

Offline speed

  • Posts: 302
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2012, 05:27 AM »
has made the change. now 100%  T-loc :)

Offline Peter Halle

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 12380
  • Remington Steele - My Third Boy
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2012, 05:43 AM »
Not the most recent image I admit, 

48415-0

Offline woodguy7

  • Posts: 2727
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2012, 06:50 AM »
Darren, your gonna need a different blade  [bite tongue]
If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
Shirt size medium
p.s- ive started reading these too

Offline Guy Ashley

  • Posts: 662
  • Furniture & Cabinet Maker/Joiner
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2012, 09:33 AM »
This was my shop dog but he died last summer, so a current vacancy exists.

48420-0

He was good company and useful for keeping boards flat, buffing up wax polish and the such like.

His expression in this picture is his way of reminding me he never did forgive me for gluing him to the workshop floor once! [scared]

Well if he will go to sleep in a puddle of Cascamite what do you expect!
DIPLOMACY:

"The art of being able to tell someone to go to Hades in such a way that they positively look forward to the journey"

Offline Peter Halle

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 12380
  • Remington Steele - My Third Boy
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2012, 09:38 AM »
Scoooooooooooooooooooooooby!

PS.  I am sorry in another thread for mixing up his name with your wife's.   [eek]  It was an accident.

Peter

Offline lambeater

  • Posts: 482
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 09:41 AM »
These guys hang out in the shop sometimes, the biggest one is great for flushing out the odd mouse.
thx
Lambeater


Offline Darren Hill

  • Posts: 50
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2012, 12:01 PM »
This was my shop dog but he died last summer, so a current vacancy exists.

(Attachment Link)

He was good company and useful for keeping boards flat, buffing up wax polish and the such like.

His expression in this picture is his way of reminding me he never did forgive me for gluing him to the workshop floor once! [scared]

Well if he will go to sleep in a puddle of Cascamite what do you expect!


Sorry to hear of your loss. Cute little guy.  Dogs are man's best friend as they say. I'm just so amazed by how you can accidently give them a boot when your walking around and how they're immediately wagging their tail. I love dogs :) our little girl is getting on as you can see from her muzzle. I'm wanting to be another dog but this time a full sized one. Can't though until we get some more space, property that is. The dog I want is a vizsla and they have a lot of energy. 
Darren Hill
DH Contracting
www.dhcontracting.ca

Offline fritter63

  • Retailer
  • *
  • Posts: 1433
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2012, 12:11 PM »
I'm just so amazed by how you can accidently give them a boot when your walking around and how they're immediately wagging their tail. .

If you want know who loves you more , your wife or your dog , lock them both in the trunk of the car for an hour. When you come back, One of them will be happy to see you....

Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2012, 12:43 PM »
I'm just so amazed by how you can accidently give them a boot when your walking around and how they're immediately wagging their tail. .

If you want know who loves you more , your wife or your dog , lock them both in the trunk of the car for an hour. When you come back, One of them will be happy to see you....
[big grin]
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline mastercabman

  • Posts: 1857
  • NORFOLK,VA
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2012, 02:21 PM »
I'm just so amazed by how you can accidently give them a boot when your walking around and how they're immediately wagging their tail. .

If you want know who loves you more , your wife or your dog , lock them both in the trunk of the car for an hour. When you come back, One of them will be happy to see you....
An old man at the vet told me that joke!! very funny and VERY true!
I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!

Offline Kev

  • Posts: 7652
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2012, 07:56 PM »
48464-0

She's not really a "shop dog" as I don't have a set spot to play at the moment ... and she does like to chew wood  [eek]

Offline nydesign

  • Posts: 142
    • Studio 4W
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2012, 08:15 PM »
I'm just so amazed by how you can accidently give them a boot when your walking around and how they're immediately wagging their tail. .

If you want know who loves you more , your wife or your dog , lock them both in the trunk of the car for an hour. When you come back, One of them will be happy to see you....

I'm telling this joke to my wife, I can't wait to see her face  [big grin]

Offline EWTHeckman

  • Posts: 289
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2012, 08:56 PM »
I'm telling this joke to my wife, I can't wait to see her face  [big grin]

My wife thought it was funny… especially since both our cars are station wagons!  [big grin]
Ed "What the" Heckman

Offline jacko9

  • Posts: 2381
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2012, 09:07 PM »
Buster was my shop dog until he passed at 13 years old.  He used to keep the unwanted visitors at a distance.  I actually had a shop "cat" a big siamese who would sleep in the wood chips at the front of my planer.  When I ran the planer he would just brush away the chips landing on his head.

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2012, 10:21 AM »
My shop dog was a Golden who was with us for nearly 17 years.  My shop, for most of her life, was the wide open spaces.  When I would get to a jobsite and let her out of my truck, she would immediately start to run in the most interesting (to her) direction. I would wait until she would reach a property line and yell "NO".  She would stop immediately and run in another direction until reaching a boundary when I would again yell, "NO". We would repeat the process until we were both satisfied a circumference of boundary had been established. I could work all day from then on and she would stay within the bounds we had established together. 
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline Upscale

  • Posts: 754
Why Some Men Have a Dog And No Wife:
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2012, 11:11 AM »
If you want know who loves you more , your wife or your dog , lock them both in the trunk of the car for an hour. When you come back, One of them will be happy to see you....

Why Some Men Have a Dog And No Wife:
 
1. The later you are, the more excited your dogs are to see you.
 
2. Dogs don't notice if you call them by another dog's name.
 
3. Dogs like it if you leave a lot of things on the floor.
 
4. A dog's parents never visit.
 
5. Dogs agree that you have to raise your voice to get your point
across.
 
6. Dogs find you amusing when you're drunk..
 
7. Dogs like to go hunting and fishing.
 
8. A dog will not wake you up at night to ask,
"If I died, would you get another dog?"
 
9. If a dog has babies, you can put an ad in the paper
and give them away.
 
10. A dog will let you put a studded collar on it without
calling you a pervert.
 
11. If a dog smells another dog on you, they don't get mad.
They just think it's interesting.
 
And last, but not least:
 
12. If a dog leaves, it won't take half of your stuff.
 
To test this theory:
Lock your wife and your dog in the garage for an hour.
Then open it and see who's happy to see you.

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2012, 12:10 PM »
My latest dog hung around (happily) for 16 years. (she's the one who worked out boundaries with me)  Almost without fail, whenever a strager drove int the yard, she would run out to great them very loudly.  she seemed to have a great sense for trust.  if she trusted the stranger, she would take them by the hand to lead them to the house.  sometimes, she would try to relieve a load from the hand, especially a woman's pocket book.  Sometimes, she would stand beside me of my wife and just bark, but would walk into the house quite calmly when we would all go inside.  there were others that when they got out of the car, she would retreat to a position behind my legs and peak around and bark as it she were saying, "Hold me back! Hold me back!"

There were two people over time that she had absolutely no trust for.  She would stop barking and sort of wrap her body around the front of my legs, pushing me for all she was worth away from the person.  one was a salesman that niether my wife, nor i felt we could trust.  He never came back.  The other was a local contractor who i was working together with on a couple of projects.  My dog not only tried to push me away from him.  When we sat down at our kitchen table to discuss projects together, my dog would sit between us, never once taking her eyes off of the man.  we worked together on several projects for maybe three months. Finally, at some point, I found out my dog was a much better judge of character than I.
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline greenMonster

  • Posts: 290
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2012, 12:36 PM »
That's a crazy looking triple tap...it looks like its getting ready to probe your pooch or something.
It looks like its part of some system? What's that yellow box? and the red flying saucer


« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 12:37 PM by greenMonster »

Offline richard.selwyn

  • Posts: 635
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2012, 04:24 PM »
I'm sure speed will explain but its a 110 volt multi socket. The yellow box is a 110 transformer and the flying saucer an extension cable reel. Now I want an explanation as to why they have 110v on site in the UK?

Offline Upscale

  • Posts: 754
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2012, 04:44 PM »
Buster was my shop dog until he passed at 13 years old.  He used to keep the unwanted visitors at a distance. 

Condolences, it's always hard losing a pet. But, he couldn't have been all that great a dog. In the picture it looks like you're kicking him.
 [tongue]

Offline Deansocial

  • Posts: 2114
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2012, 05:41 PM »
what i want to know is what you have run a 240 lead to thin plug a 110v transformer in. kind of defeats the object lol

Offline deepcreek

  • Posts: 952
    • TimberFire Studio
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2012, 06:20 PM »
That's my boy!

49575-0
Joe Adams
TimberFire Studio
Houston, Texas

http://www.facebook.com/timberfire

Offline jacko9

  • Posts: 2381
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2012, 06:37 PM »
Buster was my shop dog until he passed at 13 years old.  He used to keep the unwanted visitors at a distance. 

Condolences, it's always hard losing a pet. But, he couldn't have been all that great a dog. In the picture it looks like you're kicking him.
 [tongue]

Buster never got abused, that was lifting his head when he had trouble getting up.  I bought a wrap around lift and booties for that dog and carried him out for a walk the last two years of his life [big grin].  He was a very happy dog and even at $100/week on meds, I don't regret it a minute.

Offline Upscale

  • Posts: 754
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2012, 08:55 PM »
Buster never got abused, that was lifting his head when he had trouble getting up.  I bought a wrap around lift and booties for that dog and carried him out for a walk the last two years of his life [big grin].  He was a very happy dog and even at $100/week on meds, I don't regret it a minute.

I understand completely. I did much the same thing for a previous cat. The really hard part came when I knew he was in pain and it was time to put him down.
 :'(

Offline jacko9

  • Posts: 2381
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2012, 09:18 PM »
Buster never got abused, that was lifting his head when he had trouble getting up.  I bought a wrap around lift and booties for that dog and carried him out for a walk the last two years of his life [big grin].  He was a very happy dog and even at $100/week on meds, I don't regret it a minute.

I understand completely. I did much the same thing for a previous cat. The really hard part came when I knew he was in pain and it was time to put him down.
 :'(

I agree with you and after several dogs and cats, Buster was the first to live in the house and shop and became part of the family unlike any other before him.  That made is very difficult but, when he couldn't eat and couldn't get up and just looked up at me with a pained expression I knew it was time.  If I was younger I'd have another German Shepard but, ay my age I don't think it would be fair to the dog since my running days have passed long ago.

Offline whitesys

  • Posts: 126
    • www.davidwhite.us
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2012, 10:17 PM »
This is Maggie -
She is almost as good at dust collection as the CT22  [wink]


Offline jacko9

  • Posts: 2381
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2012, 10:19 PM »
Maggie is styling with that fashion hat [big grin]

Offline Corwin

  • Posts: 2644
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2012, 10:55 PM »
This is Maggie -
She is almost as good at dust collection as the CT22  [wink]

(Attachment Link)

Is she fitted with the longlife filter bag? 

Offline Upscale

  • Posts: 754
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2012, 11:03 PM »
Is she fitted with the longlife filter bag? 

If she is anything like my German Shepherd from five decades past, she rolls in the dust so she can get vacuumed down. My German Shepherd loved it when we vacuumed his coat.

Offline whitesys

  • Posts: 126
    • www.davidwhite.us
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2012, 02:19 AM »
Maggie is styling with that fashion hat [big grin]
Yes - she has her own hat - she insisted!

Is she fitted with the longlife filter bag? 
Sort of - it lasts for a year and then she grows a new one.

If she is anything like my German Shepherd from five decades past, she rolls in the dust so she can get vacuumed down. My German Shepherd loved it when we vacuumed his coat.
Almost - two of her favorite things are the water hose and the air hose.
She occasionally gets her coat blown off if it is real bad - the resulting dust cloud kind of looks like Pigpen (from the Charlie Brown cartoon).

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2012, 01:36 PM »
Another tale about our Maggie.  She was a Golden and every afternoon, as i backed my truck/trailer into the yard, she would wait very patiently until I had parked, unloaded both truck and trailer and any of the other chores i might have to do.  Once i had my time books, thermose and whatever in my hands and started walking towards the house, she would run up to me and take something from me to carry into the house. most often, it was my hat.  She did this from the time she first came to us as an abused 7 month puppy until only a few days before she passed on at nearly 17 years.  the last couple of years, she would walk up to me, take whatever goodie I might give her and turn and run.  My unloading point was on a rise from the house and there was a rightangled bend about 1/2 the way.  as she would get to the bend, she would not slow down.  Her reflexes and conditioning was not what it once had been and as she would be about 1/4 the way into her turn, her hind legs would swing around and nearly pass her front end, at the point of being crosswise to her direction, she would tumble and roll, falling on her side.  It was almost as if she had practiced and she would roll back onto her feet and continue her "job".  It was asd to watch her performance, but it was harder to see the look she would give me if i tried to stop her.
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline Hans Mertens

  • Posts: 139
    • my company's website
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2012, 02:35 PM »
Meet Louis...





Head of my building site security, at least that's what I'm paying him for...
As long as the burglar doesn't bring another dog with him, he doesn't care.

I should reconsider his wage: two meals and an hour of walking a day, you have to do a lot more then just getting a tan to earn that kind of money...

PS: that's me in the back swinging that hamer.

Offline The Woodentop

  • Posts: 238
  • Buxton, England
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2012, 04:05 AM »
I'm sure speed will explain but its a 110 volt multi socket. The yellow box is a 110 transformer and the flying saucer an extension cable reel. Now I want an explanation as to why they have 110v on site in the UK?

Health and safety. 110 don't kill you.
Never assume you know....only know you know

Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2012, 05:09 AM »
I'm sure speed will explain but its a 110 volt multi socket. The yellow box is a 110 transformer and the flying saucer an extension cable reel. Now I want an explanation as to why they have 110v on site in the UK?

Health and safety. 110 don't kill you.


Umm  yeah it can just less likely than 240v.   Most the time 240v won't kill you either  you just have to be unlucky.   Touch wood I have been lucky about 10x when I have had a 240 shock.    The only danger is really if it gets hold of you so a
RCD should be used so this can not happen.

 240v with RCD is just as safe as 110v but  these stupid big site don't allow it even though your are actually aloud 240v with
RCD by law on site.    Just no big sites allow it.     I hate 110v and refuse to go down that route.  

 Just like Dean said why is their a 240 lead next to the 110v transformer in the picture  defeats the object.
This happens a lot on all the jobs I go on 240v leads ever where and then people have 110v transformers running their tools all because if they get a job on site they need 110v tools.     Ideally you buy 2 of every tool 110v and 240v soo you can work on site and off site.


I personally went down the 240v route because of two main reason
1. The tools are more powerful and run smoother  
2. I hate carrying transformers about they are heavy and a pain.

Other reasons are you get a lot of power drop with 110v if some 1 else starts a tool up on the same lead 240 or 110 your tools looses power.  If you have lights running on 110v they keep dimming when you start a tool up.  To over come this you need a bigger and more powerfull transformer or multiple transformers more stuff to carry about.     Bigger transformers are really heavy.





« Last Edit: April 29, 2012, 05:14 AM by jmbfestool »
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline wood pulp

  • Posts: 291
  • Each another's audience...
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2012, 09:16 PM »
I just finished putting this shelf in...


Offline Deansocial

  • Posts: 2114
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2013, 07:58 AM »
Here's my stupid dog

Offline mastercabman

  • Posts: 1857
  • NORFOLK,VA
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2013, 12:01 PM »
Here's my  security system!
I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!

Offline Jon Hilgenberg

  • Posts: 1113
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2013, 12:08 PM »
Here's my goofy chocolate lab.  Wasn't much of a shop dog, but was a great co-pilot.  Just said our final goodbyes to him a couple of weeks ago
The more Festools I buy, the more money I earn.  The more money I earn, the more Festools I buy.  The more...
TS 55, TS 75, Domino, CT22, OF 2000, C12, CXS, RAS, Trion, Fogtainers!

Offline builderbob

  • Posts: 1373
    • RJP Remodeling
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2013, 02:54 PM »
Here's my shop dog...except he doesn't like the shop at all. He yaps at all the tools and is deathly afraid of my quiet JC10 compressor!

Kapex, TS55, CMS GE, Carvex 420, Domino DF500, MFK 700, OF 2200, OF 1400, OF 1010, EHL65, RAS 115, RTS 400, RO150, ETS 150/3, ETS 125, CT 22 (2), CXS (2), C-15+3, T-12+3, PSB 300 & more MFT's than i can count!

Offline Tom Bellemare

  • Inactive Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5148
  • Festool demo's & personal service in Central Texas
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2013, 03:39 PM »
Here's my goofy chocolate lab.  Wasn't much of a shop dog, but was a great co-pilot.  Just said our final goodbyes to him a couple of weeks ago


Were you doing a barrel roll, Jon?


Tom

Offline Jon Hilgenberg

  • Posts: 1113
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2013, 03:54 PM »
Not sure what happened there...must've taken that down under.

The more Festools I buy, the more money I earn.  The more money I earn, the more Festools I buy.  The more...
TS 55, TS 75, Domino, CT22, OF 2000, C12, CXS, RAS, Trion, Fogtainers!

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2013, 03:56 PM »
Meet Chili.  Not much of a shop dog as he's afraid of every power tool known to man and moreso when said power tools are in my hands.  I thought they were supposed to trust us unconditionally...I don't think he's read the contract!  His idea of play and my idea of play are two different things.  He also has no sense when it comes to what he chews and swallows.  Still waiting for a plastic bag from last week to make it's way out one end or the other.  He's 3 now, so there is little hope he'll develop a better sense of judgement.  He's in his feeding chair below (has to be spoon fed vertically and stay that way for long enough for the food to get to the tummy).  The chair packs flat in 30 seconds for traveling.  Need to build him something more permanent when I get time.   

-Raj

Offline Peter Halle

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 12380
  • Remington Steele - My Third Boy
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2013, 05:14 PM »
Meet Chili.  Not much of a shop dog as he's afraid of every power tool known to man and moreso when said power tools are in my hands.  I thought they were supposed to trust us unconditionally...I don't think he's read the contract!  His idea of play and my idea of play are two different things.  He also has no sense when it comes to what he chews and swallows.  Still waiting for a plastic bag from last week to make it's way out one end or the other.  He's 3 now, so there is little hope he'll develop a better sense of judgement.  He's in his feeding chair below (has to be spoon fed vertically and stay that way for long enough for the food to get to the tummy).  The chair packs flat in 30 seconds for traveling.  Need to build him something more permanent when I get time.   



Chili reminds me of my card carrying Golden - MacGyer.  Loving dog - LOVES THE FOG - but after that...  He won't eat table scraps that he deems too hard, and will pick thru his dog food and eat the softer morsels first.  PS.  I attribute his behavior that I can understand to the fact that he is half British Golden Retriever.  [big grin]

He is the only of my 10+ dogs that did not need to start out in a crate and he has never destroyed anything.  Probably too hard.  [scared]

Peter

Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2013, 03:17 AM »
Meet Chili.  Not much of a shop dog as he's afraid of every power tool known to man and moreso when said power tools are in my hands.  I thought they were supposed to trust us unconditionally...I don't think he's read the contract!  His idea of play and my idea of play are two different things.  He also has no sense when it comes to what he chews and swallows.  Still waiting for a plastic bag from last week to make it's way out one end or the other.  He's 3 now, so there is little hope he'll develop a better sense of judgement.  He's in his feeding chair below (has to be spoon fed vertically and stay that way for long enough for the food to get to the tummy).  The chair packs flat in 30 seconds for traveling.  Need to build him something more permanent when I get time.   




How come?  Iv never seen that before a dog spoon fed and must stay vertical. 

*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2013, 10:02 AM »
The nerves or muscles in his esophagus and/or the valve between the stomach and esophagus don't work as intended.  Feeding a liquid diet, metering the rate of feed and allowing gravity to do the rest will get the food into his stomach.  If we don't do this, the food pools in his esophagus and nausea sets in.  It's a vicious cycle because the nausea causes excessive saliva production which also pools in the esophagus.  Typically we would have to withhold all food and water for 24 hours until the nausea subsides.  Dogs with this condition (undiagnosed) will either starve to death or get aspiration pneumonia from the regurgitation cycles caused by the food pooling in the esophagus.  Even diagnosed, some will suffer the same fate.
-Raj

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2013, 12:32 PM »
What some do for their pets?
I had never heard of that esophogus problem.  glad it was diagnosed properly. Ingenious feeding solution.
The last two years we had our Maggie, we spent more at the vet than for both my wife and me for our own MD's

This winter, or daughter was visiting when she noticed her "baby" 100# Yellow Lab was not acting right.  It was late at nite, but she decided not to wait til morrning to find a vet.  she found one about 30 miles away and rushed him there.  They told her the dogs stomach had flipped.
They operated immediately.  They had to unsnarl the stomach and then sew it in place somehow so it would not move again. 
Along with epilepsy and dislocated shoulder and the emergency op, I think she has spent more on her dog than her car.

But, the dog is happy and still playful.
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline mastercabman

  • Posts: 1857
  • NORFOLK,VA
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2013, 03:21 PM »
What some do for their pets?
On one of my dogs,i have spent about $10000.00 on medical   (so far)
I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!

Offline copcarcollector

  • Posts: 1456
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2013, 04:17 PM »
TINKER - My dog Toby, before he was my dog, while he was at a Lab Rescue, had the same stomach condition. It is called bloat and is often fatal.  Thankfully they were able to help my dog and your daughters too. People should monitor their K9 friends closely and take immediate action if the dog is not acting "normally".


Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2013, 04:41 PM »
The nerves or muscles in his esophagus and/or the valve between the stomach and esophagus don't work as intended.  Feeding a liquid diet, metering the rate of feed and allowing gravity to do the rest will get the food into his stomach.  If we don't do this, the food pools in his esophagus and nausea sets in.  It's a vicious cycle because the nausea causes excessive saliva production which also pools in the esophagus.  Typically we would have to withhold all food and water for 24 hours until the nausea subsides.  Dogs with this condition (undiagnosed) will either starve to death or get aspiration pneumonia from the regurgitation cycles caused by the food pooling in the esophagus.  Even diagnosed, some will suffer the same fate.


So sad but he looks really happy and healthy.

 [not worthy] Makes me happy when people love their animals and will do anything for them.   Some people wouldn't bother.

I don't believe any one should have a pet if they can't fully commit to them when needed.  Financially and personally.  I think a dog is like having a permanent child and you wouldn't neglect a child.

Jmb

*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline Deansocial

  • Posts: 2114
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2013, 04:51 PM »
The nerves or muscles in his esophagus and/or the valve between the stomach and esophagus don't work as intended.  Feeding a liquid diet, metering the rate of feed and allowing gravity to do the rest will get the food into his stomach.  If we don't do this, the food pools in his esophagus and nausea sets in.  It's a vicious cycle because the nausea causes excessive saliva production which also pools in the esophagus.  Typically we would have to withhold all food and water for 24 hours until the nausea subsides.  Dogs with this condition (undiagnosed) will either starve to death or get aspiration pneumonia from the regurgitation cycles caused by the food pooling in the esophagus.  Even diagnosed, some will suffer the same fate.


So sad but he looks really happy and healthy.

 [not worthy] Makes me happy when people love their animals and will do anything for them.   Some people wouldn't bother.

I don't believe any one should have a pet if they can't fully commit to them when needed.  Financially and personally.  I think a dog is like having a permanent child and you wouldn't neglect a child.

Jmb



My wife says the same thing.             


About being married

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #54 on: August 24, 2013, 08:25 PM »
TINKER - My dog Toby, before he was my dog, while he was at a Lab Rescue, had the same stomach condition. It is called bloat and is often fatal.  Thankfully they were able to help my dog and your daughters too. People should monitor their K9 friends closely and take immediate action if the dog is not acting "normally".



Sometimes, owners or the vets try to save ???'s when performing the operation and just push everything back into place and sewing the animal back up.  If they do that, the bloat will return and lights out.  The vet our daughter found in the middle of the nite explained that it is very important to (anchor) the stomach so it won't happen again. I went with her when she went to pick up her "baby" and was very impressed with the patience the vet had in explaining once again about the entire procedure and the assurances he gave her even tho it is very likely they would never see each other again.  Not every vet (or people docs) will be that thoro and patient.
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline Sparktrician

  • Posts: 4160
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2013, 09:22 AM »
What some do for their pets?
On one of my dogs,i have spent about $10000.00 on medical   (so far)


Last year alone, one of my guys cost $5,000 with stem cell therapy for a spondylosis, very painful and debilitating spinal condition.  He's still with me and has a very beautiful spirit.  He never fails to let me know that he appreciates being rescued and being given a loving "forever" home. 

- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)

Offline Untidy Shop

  • Posts: 2746
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2013, 06:56 PM »
Check out this link from the Australian Broadcasting Commission; our BBC.
All free, our Australian Taxes at work!

You will need their 'Iview app', and will need to watch on a tablet/phone if in NA as may not work on non PAL televisions.
On the link, press on the 'Watch On Iview' prompt and follow the download links. Well worth it for animal lovers, and those interested in animal welfare.

Be warned, if watching Ep 5, you will need tissues! But it is probably the one to watch if you only view one ep.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/vet-school/
« Last Edit: August 25, 2013, 08:26 PM by Stephen B »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Untidy Shop

  • Posts: 2746
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2013, 08:32 PM »
Monty, our shy Australian Kelpie/Whippet X.

This is was a common cross for poaching in Australia, the eyes and intelligence of the Kelpie, the speed of the Whippet. However he is just a much loved pet.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2013, 09:27 AM by Stephen B »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Big Al

  • Posts: 20
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #58 on: August 26, 2013, 01:23 AM »
Shop Dog Lily... Patiently waiting on the UPS man...

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2013, 05:33 AM »
Monty, our shy Australian Kelpy/Whippet X.

This is was a common cross for poaching in Australia, the eyes and intelligence of the Kelpy, the speed of the whippet. However he is just a much loved pet.

OMG, Those eyes remind me of a long gone school teacher i once knew.  She was actually a very good friend of the family, but she was a very strict, but very fair, teacher.  i never got to be in any of her classes as she taught high school and i only went thru the 8th grade before moving away.  it was a small school, so everybody knew everybody else.  i was pretty well know as being in fairly constant trouble and a problem for most of my teachers.

I would get into fights, whether inside, or out on the playground.  Due to difference in space and schedule, Mrs. K never got to me when i was outside and stirring up trouble.  She did, however, catch me quite often wen i was promoting an inside scuffle.  I would be well into a commotion when, all of a sudden, i would hear from behind, "That will do TINK."

All activity would immediately cease.  usually, the other person would suddenly be gone.  BUT, I would be left standing, feeling totally naked, in front of THE STARE.  I would try to dig a hole right into the floor as THE STARE continued to bore right thru me.  The woman never said another word.  When i was finally melted and nothing but a blob, she would finally turn around and walk away.  I was done for the day. A total mess.

Other teachers would just send me to the principal's office.  Mrs. K never felt that need.

Once i had moved away from my Uncle's farm, i still went back nearly every weekend i could.  I often, under less troublesome and authoritative circumstances, stop to visit with Mrs. K and her family.  she was really a lot of fun and had a laugh you could hear five miles away.  BUT, those eyes.  OMG, i can never forget.

Oh, BTW, does your dog rule?  [unsure]
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline Untidy Shop

  • Posts: 2746
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2013, 08:40 AM »
Monty, our shy Australian Kelpy/Whippet X.

This is was a common cross for poaching in Australia, the eyes and intelligence of the Kelpy, the speed of the whippet. However he is just a much loved pet.

OMG, Those eyes remind me of a long gone school teacher i once knew.  She was actually a very good friend of the family, but she was a very strict, but very fair, teacher.  i never got to be in any of her classes as she taught high school and i only went thru the 8th grade before moving away.  it was a small school, so everybody knew everybody else.  i was pretty well know as being in fairly constant trouble and a problem for most of my teachers.

I would get into fights, whether inside, or out on the playground.  Due to difference in space and schedule, Mrs. K never got to me when i was outside and stirring up trouble.  She did, however, catch me quite often wen i was promoting an inside scuffle.  I would be well into a commotion when, all of a sudden, i would hear from behind, "That will do TINK."

All activity would immediately cease.  usually, the other person would suddenly be gone.  BUT, I would be left standing, feeling totally naked, in front of THE STARE.  I would try to dig a hole right into the floor as THE STARE continued to bore right thru me.  The woman never said another word.  When i was finally melted and nothing but a blob, she would finally turn around and walk away.  I was done for the day. A total mess.

Other teachers would just send me to the principal's office.  Mrs. K never felt that need.

Once i had moved away from my Uncle's farm, i still went back nearly every weekend i could.  I often, under less troublesome and authoritative circumstances, stop to visit with Mrs. K and her family.  she was really a lot of fun and had a laugh you could hear five miles away.  BUT, those eyes.  OMG, i can never forget.

Oh, BTW, does your dog rule?  [unsure]
Tinker

No, but he very open to 'bribery and corruption', ie. treats.

Your teacher story reminded me of my mothers advice to me as a young teacher graduate. She was a teacher and said to place a picture of the Queen above the classroom chalkboard. She listened to my protests of being a republican # and that teaching theory was moving away from 'chalk and talk' and then said, "Stephen, if the picture frame has reflective glass it is a teachers third eye!"

Did your teacher use the three Cs? 'Clear, Calm and Consistent'.


# Australian Republicans are different to those in the US.
Republicans in Australia desire an end to the role of the British monarchy in our  Parliamentary system and consist of people across the political spectrum from left to right.

« Last Edit: August 26, 2013, 09:37 AM by Stephen B »
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2013, 10:03 AM »
What some do for their pets?
I had never heard of that esophogus problem.  glad it was diagnosed properly. Ingenious feeding solution.
The last two years we had our Maggie, we spent more at the vet than for both my wife and me for our own MD's

This winter, or daughter was visiting when she noticed her "baby" 100# Yellow Lab was not acting right.  It was late at nite, but she decided not to wait til morrning to find a vet.  she found one about 30 miles away and rushed him there.  They told her the dogs stomach had flipped.
They operated immediately.  They had to unsnarl the stomach and then sew it in place somehow so it would not move again. 
Along with epilepsy and dislocated shoulder and the emergency op, I think she has spent more on her dog than her car.

But, the dog is happy and still playful.
Tinker

Glad she picked up on the signs and didn't wait!  Funny thing is this is my second golden and until these issues surfaced, I never really realized how expressive dogs are.  They speak volumes through their body language, but sometimes we're just too hung up on vocal communication to understand.  Once we figured out Chili needed to be fed vertically, there were other nuances in the feeding routine that still needed to be worked out.  The vets I've found are textbook smart, but not much more.  We struggled for 5 months with random regurg cycles and only after each cycle did I go back and think about his behavior and expressions.  He will never say no to food (which is what makes this so tricky), but his face and posture was telling me all along when he was having trouble.  Sometimes his behavior as well.  Now that I'm listening I'm able to almost completely eliminate the regurg cycles.  He can definitely talk...the issue is is there anyone listening! 

Two weeks ago we left him for the first time in 2 years.  I found an older woman that works in my vets office that was willing to petsit/housesit.  I showed her the routine and all his body language (head posture, ears, eyes) and what to do when he's having trouble with is food.  I handed her the food bowl and let her finish the second half of the feeding and she picked up on everything beautifully!  We were nervous and checked in daily to see how he was doing...thankfully it worked out great! 
-Raj

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2013, 10:19 AM »
Monty, our shy Australian Kelpy/Whippet X.

This is was a common cross for poaching in Australia, the eyes and intelligence of the Kelpy, the speed of the whippet. However he is just a much loved pet.

OMG, Those eyes remind me of a long gone school teacher i once knew.  She was actually a very good friend of the family, but she was a very strict, but very fair, teacher.  i never got to be in any of her classes as she taught high school and i only went thru the 8th grade before moving away.  it was a small school, so everybody knew everybody else.  i was pretty well know as being in fairly constant trouble and a problem for most of my teachers.

I would get into fights, whether inside, or out on the playground.  Due to difference in space and schedule, Mrs. K never got to me when i was outside and stirring up trouble.  She did, however, catch me quite often wen i was promoting an inside scuffle.  I would be well into a commotion when, all of a sudden, i would hear from behind, "That will do TINK."

All activity would immediately cease.  usually, the other person would suddenly be gone.  BUT, I would be left standing, feeling totally naked, in front of THE STARE.  I would try to dig a hole right into the floor as THE STARE continued to bore right thru me.  The woman never said another word.  When i was finally melted and nothing but a blob, she would finally turn around and walk away.  I was done for the day. A total mess.

Other teachers would just send me to the principal's office.  Mrs. K never felt that need.

Once i had moved away from my Uncle's farm, i still went back nearly every weekend i could.  I often, under less troublesome and authoritative circumstances, stop to visit with Mrs. K and her family.  she was really a lot of fun and had a laugh you could hear five miles away.  BUT, those eyes.  OMG, i can never forget.

Oh, BTW, does your dog rule?  [unsure]
Tinker

No, but he very open to 'bribery and corruption', ie. treats.

Your teacher story reminded me of my mothers advice to me as a young teacher graduate. She was a teacher and said to place a picture of the Queen above the classroom chalkboard. She listened to my protests of being a republican # and that teaching theory was moving away from 'chalk and talk' and then said, "Stephen, if the picture frame has reflective glass it is a teachers third eye!"

Did your teacher use the three Cs? 'Clear, Calm and Consistent'.


# Australian Republicans are different to those in the US.
Republicans in Australia desire an end to the role of the British monarchy in our  Parliamentary system and consist of people across the political spectrum from left to right.



To the question:  Absolutely.  That's what made her so tough. 
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2013, 10:30 AM »
What some do for their pets?
I had never heard of that esophogus problem.  glad it was diagnosed properly. Ingenious feeding solution.
The last two years we had our Maggie, we spent more at the vet than for both my wife and me for our own MD's

This winter, or daughter was visiting when she noticed her "baby" 100# Yellow Lab was not acting right.  It was late at nite, but she decided not to wait til morrning to find a vet.  she found one about 30 miles away and rushed him there.  They told her the dogs stomach had flipped.
They operated immediately.  They had to unsnarl the stomach and then sew it in place somehow so it would not move again. 
Along with epilepsy and dislocated shoulder and the emergency op, I think she has spent more on her dog than her car.

But, the dog is happy and still playful.
Tinker

Glad she picked up on the signs and didn't wait!  Funny thing is this is my second golden and until these issues surfaced, I never really realized how expressive dogs are.  They speak volumes through their body language, but sometimes we're just too hung up on vocal communication to understand.  Once we figured out Chili needed to be fed vertically, there were other nuances in the feeding routine that still needed to be worked out.  The vets I've found are textbook smart, but not much more.  We struggled for 5 months with random regurg cycles and only after each cycle did I go back and think about his behavior and expressions.  He will never say no to food (which is what makes this so tricky), but his face and posture was telling me all along when he was having trouble.  Sometimes his behavior as well.  Now that I'm listening I'm able to almost completely eliminate the regurg cycles.  He can definitely talk...the issue is is there anyone listening! 

Two weeks ago we left him for the first time in 2 years.  I found an older woman that works in my vets office that was willing to petsit/housesit.  I showed her the routine and all his body language (head posture, ears, eyes) and what to do when he's having trouble with is food.  I handed her the food bowl and let her finish the second half of the feeding and she picked up on everything beautifully!  We were nervous and checked in daily to see how he was doing...thankfully it worked out great! 

It was fortunate that our daughter was "home" that nite when her dog had the bloat.  She was here for christmas/New year vacation.  normally, she would have been off visiting, but that evening she had been here.  I was already sleeping, but she and My BOSS were still up.  Had daughter not been here, we might have waited til morning, as the dog also has epilepsy.  we knew the symptoms for that, but none of us had ever confronted the bloat problem.  Even tho i had grown up on a dairy farm, i had never seen the problem with any of our farm animals.  My wif might have thought the problem might go away as she had never even heard of it.  Daughter just knew something was wrong. 

Your dogs problem is evidently not very common.  It is fortunate that you are observant and able to read the dog language.  Not everybody can tune in to such problems, much less figure out a solution.  We have had three Goldens.  the first two inhaled food and we had to serve dinners in 1/2 portions just to be safe.  the third was a little less of a glutton.  She was also a rescue dog and lived to be almost 17.  She was my Go To Job Dog.
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2013, 10:44 AM »
So sad but he looks really happy and healthy.

 [not worthy] Makes me happy when people love their animals and will do anything for them.   Some people wouldn't bother.

I don't believe any one should have a pet if they can't fully commit to them when needed.  Financially and personally.  I think a dog is like having a permanent child and you wouldn't neglect a child.

Jmb

Thank you Jmb, I know you meant that from the heart and this struck a chord with me.  I think every situation is unique.  My first golden had to be put down at 12 yo due to kidney failure.  In the last week he was slowly starving to death because he couldn't hold down food.  He lived a good life and it was time to let him go, he was suffering too much.  In the grand scheme of things, I think we were lucky to have reached that place where a decision was clear.  Before we got chili, I was virtually certain if anything catastrophic were to happen, I wouldn't bet the farm on him and go broke in the process.  I guess you could say the way the situation unfolded it gave us time to figure out how we could deal with this.  The complete picture in terms of the cause, financial commitment and time commitment became clear over the span of 8 months.  At the end of it, we spend 5 hours a day giving him food and water.  $800 a month on dog walkers because he ingests so much water to take down food he has to go out frequently and can't be trusted outside unsupervised or he'll eat all kinds of nonsense.  $250+ a month on prescription food and medication.  And taking vacations is nearly impossible, although we've recently found some limited help.  If someone told us what he would need from day 1, the story might have been different.  Instead there was a glimmer of hope all along the way and we learned that he could live a happy, healthy and normal life with careful management.  A year ago he was 50 lbs and near the end, today he's at 75+ lbs and borderline getting overweight.  It feels like it's been a long road with him, but at this point we're just thankful to be where we are at.  It's true, not everybody can (or would) go to this extreme.  It's often a balancing act between family, finances and your pets life.  Each "parent" has to make the decision that's best for them.  But it would be nice if people took a minute to think about that from the outset before taking a new puppy home.  Sorry guys, don't mean to be on a soapbox, just reflecting on the road we've been on.  I've learned that our dogs represent the best of who we aspire to be.  They are noble, gracious, humble, forgiving.  Give your dog a hug today.  He/she deserves it!  :)
-Raj

Offline kevinvandeusen

  • Posts: 24
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2013, 10:09 PM »
Mine will not set foot in the shop

Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2013, 05:16 PM »
So sad but he looks really happy and healthy.

 [not worthy] Makes me happy when people love their animals and will do anything for them.   Some people wouldn't bother.

I don't believe any one should have a pet if they can't fully commit to them when needed.  Financially and personally.  I think a dog is like having a permanent child and you wouldn't neglect a child.

Jmb

Thank you Jmb, I know you meant that from the heart and this struck a chord with me.  I think every situation is unique.  My first golden had to be put down at 12 yo due to kidney failure.  In the last week he was slowly starving to death because he couldn't hold down food.  He lived a good life and it was time to let him go, he was suffering too much.  In the grand scheme of things, I think we were lucky to have reached that place where a decision was clear.  Before we got chili, I was virtually certain if anything catastrophic were to happen, I wouldn't bet the farm on him and go broke in the process.  I guess you could say the way the situation unfolded it gave us time to figure out how we could deal with this.  The complete picture in terms of the cause, financial commitment and time commitment became clear over the span of 8 months.  At the end of it, we spend 5 hours a day giving him food and water.  $800 a month on dog walkers because he ingests so much water to take down food he has to go out frequently and can't be trusted outside unsupervised or he'll eat all kinds of nonsense.  $250+ a month on prescription food and medication.  And taking vacations is nearly impossible, although we've recently found some limited help.  If someone told us what he would need from day 1, the story might have been different.  Instead there was a glimmer of hope all along the way and we learned that he could live a happy, healthy and normal life with careful management.  A year ago he was 50 lbs and near the end, today he's at 75+ lbs and borderline getting overweight.  It feels like it's been a long road with him, but at this point we're just thankful to be where we are at.  It's true, not everybody can (or would) go to this extreme.  It's often a balancing act between family, finances and your pets life.  Each "parent" has to make the decision that's best for them.  But it would be nice if people took a minute to think about that from the outset before taking a new puppy home.  Sorry guys, don't mean to be on a soapbox, just reflecting on the road we've been on.  I've learned that our dogs represent the best of who we aspire to be.  They are noble, gracious, humble, forgiving.  Give your dog a hug today.  He/she deserves it!  :)

I did mean it.   I believe people who love Animals are very loving/caring people

Our previous dog had kidney failure so sad because he was so fit and healthy on the out side couldn't tell he was ill, he was his normal self.   The only reason we knew he was ill was his water bowl kept turning greenish and we couldnt touch his sides because it was painful.    So it was hard to decide if we could get few more weeks/months out of him or is he suffering but just a tuff guy who seems to be able to hide it from us.

Was a hard choice to make [crying]  





I always give my Dog a Hug every day!  He loves cuddles [embarassed]  
91599-0





« Last Edit: August 27, 2013, 05:23 PM by jmbfestool »
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline mastercabman

  • Posts: 1857
  • NORFOLK,VA
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2013, 08:36 PM »
JMB
Is that a long hair german shepherd or a Belgian tervuren?
I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!

Offline deepcreek

  • Posts: 952
    • TimberFire Studio
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2013, 11:48 PM »
My Lab loves spending time in the shop with me.  Here's a pic of him sleeping in the sawdust.

91629-0
« Last Edit: August 28, 2013, 12:36 AM by deepcreek »
Joe Adams
TimberFire Studio
Houston, Texas

http://www.facebook.com/timberfire

Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2013, 02:20 AM »
JMB
Is that a long hair german shepherd or a Belgian tervuren?

Long hair German shepherd.  [smile]
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline mastercabman

  • Posts: 1857
  • NORFOLK,VA
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2013, 06:56 AM »
JMB
Is that a long hair german shepherd or a Belgian tervuren?

Long hair German shepherd.  [smile]
BEAUTIFUL!
I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!

Offline Upscale

  • Posts: 754
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2013, 08:39 AM »
JMB
Is that a long hair german shepherd or a Belgian tervuren?
Long hair German shepherd.  [smile]
BEAUTIFUL!

Beautiful, yes. Hard working vacuum, definitely!

Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #72 on: August 28, 2013, 03:20 PM »
JMB
Is that a long hair german shepherd or a Belgian tervuren?
Long hair German shepherd.  [smile]
BEAUTIFUL!

Beautiful, yes. Hard working vacuum, definitely!


We use Festool midi!    The dysons where not upto the job.
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline jmbfestool

  • Posts: 6634
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2013, 03:23 PM »
JMB
Is that a long hair german shepherd or a Belgian tervuren?

Long hair German shepherd.  [smile]
BEAUTIFUL!

Cheers!
He's lovely and yes he is a little studmuffin! Gets attention where ever he goes.  People seem to be attracted to him.
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]UK members click me
*********************************************************************** [thumbs up]

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #74 on: August 28, 2013, 03:40 PM »
We have been without a  dog now for, I think, 5 years This is the first time in my life I recall not having one.  Our daughter has the 105# yellow lab that she just has to force us to take care of for her when she goes on a trip, or out galavantin' when she visits us.  It's a really tough job, but somebody HAS TO DO IT. ::)

Every one of my dogs, when his/her time came, i have always gone with the dog to the vet and held in my lap as the vet gave the final needle. 

We have always told our children months ahead of time that we might not be bringing their pet home from the vet "one of these days."  We always made sure they understood and it was a natural thing.  Both kids always understood long before we had to take that final trip.  A couple of times, our daughter went with us.  Our son would get as far as the vets office, but could not go into where out pet would be put to sleep.  It was always their choice.  We never told them they had to go with us.  But it was a lot easier for both when they knew the day was coming.

Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2013, 03:59 PM »
A lot easier for the adults too!  Some of us don't like being blind-sided! 

Deep creek, love your lab!!  Something about dogs that are generally known to be high energy and seeing them just relaxing or taking a nap! 
-Raj

Offline copcarcollector

  • Posts: 1456
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2013, 04:01 PM »
Something about dogs that are generally known to be high energy and seeing them just relaxing or taking a nap! 

Sleepy time!


Offline deepcreek

  • Posts: 952
    • TimberFire Studio
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2013, 06:19 PM »
Deep creek, love your lab!!  Something about dogs that are generally known to be high energy and seeing them just relaxing or taking a nap! 

My Labrador is a non-retriever.  As my Dad would say, that boy's got a lot of quit in him.  He does enjoy his naps!
Joe Adams
TimberFire Studio
Houston, Texas

http://www.facebook.com/timberfire

Offline HowardH

  • Posts: 1327
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #78 on: September 15, 2013, 10:17 PM »
"I'm very comfortable.  Please do not disturb me.  Thanks for letting me wear your Festool Owners Group Cap!  It's quite trendy!"

92653-0
Howard H
The Dallas Texas Festool Fanatic!

Mark Twain:  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a letter approving of it." "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything."

mft1080, P1cc, MFT/3, T15, TID-18, RO150FEQ, MT55cc, RTS400, CT22, CT36E, 800, 1080, 1400, 1900 rails, OF 2200, OF1400, CSX, C18, VacSys, Vecturo, Qwas dogs, Parf Dogs, Zobo's, Syslite Uni, CMS GE. Mafell DDF40, Sawstop contractor, PM 1500, Shaper Origin. Felder AF-14

Offline Upscale

  • Posts: 754
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #79 on: September 16, 2013, 09:47 AM »
"I'm very comfortable.  Please do not disturb me.  Thanks for letting me wear your Festool Owners Group Cap!  It's quite trendy!"

Looked like a great pic until I scrolled to the right and found out that you're dog isn't posing entirely on his own.  [unsure]

Offline HowardH

  • Posts: 1327
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #80 on: September 16, 2013, 10:05 AM »
 [big grin]  He's in a very comfortable spot I would think...
Howard H
The Dallas Texas Festool Fanatic!

Mark Twain:  "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a letter approving of it." "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything."

mft1080, P1cc, MFT/3, T15, TID-18, RO150FEQ, MT55cc, RTS400, CT22, CT36E, 800, 1080, 1400, 1900 rails, OF 2200, OF1400, CSX, C18, VacSys, Vecturo, Qwas dogs, Parf Dogs, Zobo's, Syslite Uni, CMS GE. Mafell DDF40, Sawstop contractor, PM 1500, Shaper Origin. Felder AF-14

Offline Jon Hilgenberg

  • Posts: 1113
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #81 on: September 16, 2013, 10:45 AM »
Here's my last remaining old men.  Not much of a shop dog, but if a delivery needs to be made, he's all over it!
The more Festools I buy, the more money I earn.  The more money I earn, the more Festools I buy.  The more...
TS 55, TS 75, Domino, CT22, OF 2000, C12, CXS, RAS, Trion, Fogtainers!

Offline leakyroof

  • Posts: 2338
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #82 on: October 02, 2013, 09:41 AM »
93446-0. A rare moment of quiet.  Life with a Dalmatian is never dull. [smile]  This is Jackson, he's 4 yrs old and we got him last year in late Dec.
 Our previous Dal lived to be almost 17, which is rare, but was welcomed.  We hope to enjoy that many years with Jackson.
 He's actually more mellow than our last dog, so unless he's outside, he's pretty quiet. Outside, esp. around rabbits, ALL BETS ARE OFF... [scared] [scared] [eek] [eek] [embarassed] [embarassed]
  He IS NOT a shop dog since he has NO qualms about whizzing on my Systainers of Tools and Abrasives[  Maybe he's a Dewalt Dog at heart??] [wink] [big grin]
 He pulled that 'trick' twice in the shop, and has been banned ever since.......
« Last Edit: October 02, 2013, 11:56 AM by leakyroof »
Not as many Sanders as PA Floor guy.....

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #83 on: October 24, 2013, 03:33 PM »
Meet Chili.  Not much of a shop dog as he's afraid of every power tool known to man and moreso when said power tools are in my hands.  I thought they were supposed to trust us unconditionally...I don't think he's read the contract!  His idea of play and my idea of play are two different things.  He also has no sense when it comes to what he chews and swallows.  Still waiting for a plastic bag from last week to make it's way out one end or the other.  He's 3 now, so there is little hope he'll develop a better sense of judgement.  He's in his feeding chair below (has to be spoon fed vertically and stay that way for long enough for the food to get to the tummy).  The chair packs flat in 30 seconds for traveling.  Need to build him something more permanent when I get time.   



Well, Chili has taken an turn for the worse.  As of Sunday night, I've no longer been able to get a full meal into him.  It's so painful that he shakes and cries in his chair.  Spoke to my vet who really couldn't offer anything to help.  His only suggestion was to see another specialist for a second opinion.  Dropped him off today, spoke to the doctor and within 5 minutes, I had an immediate sense that I was in the right hands.  She asked the right questions, read the entire history, put her finger on the issue I suspected as at the root of all this (after more e-searching this week).  Step one is an endoscopy  to confirm her suspicions and dilate the esophagus with a balloon if it's possible.  She warned me that it was not a sure thing.  It may not work, may temporarily work, or might be a permanent fix.  She said these things are tricky to treat and anything beyond this would involve surgery or experimental procedures.  In my mind I've almost ruled those out as he's suffered too much in his 3 short years.  Now to wait for that phone to ring....
-Raj

Offline Peter Halle

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 12380
  • Remington Steele - My Third Boy
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #84 on: October 24, 2013, 06:09 PM »
I am praying that the good hands turn out to be miracle hands.  Thinking of both of you.

Peter

Offline Untidy Shop

  • Posts: 2746
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #85 on: October 24, 2013, 07:36 PM »
'Monty' sends his love.  
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2013, 10:48 AM »
Well, thanks to both of you...and if you don't believe in miracles, read on...if you do...read on...

Endoscopy revealed nothing abnormal.  She suggested a barium swallow, so I rushed some food over last night so they could perform the test when he awoke from his procedure.  She showed me the video of the food going into his mouth, right past his throat, right past his heart, right past the diaphragm and *plop* right to the bank.  While we talked, she formed meatballs with his food and fed him in the office.  No discomfort, no retching, no vomiting, nothing.  Perfect happy golden!  She admitted she was stumped and sent us home with instructions to send back video clips if he had any signs of distress, meaning continue feeding horizontally if he will tolerate it. 

I took him home and realized she hadn't given him his anti-nausea mediation.  I've read some nasty stuff about it's side effects, but he never seemed to get well enough to warrant tapering the medication off.  But at the office he did great without it.  So I got home and fed him the second half of his dinner without that medication.  No issues.  Gave him water, which would cause retching within 60 seconds unless he's put in the chair.  No issues and no chair needed.  This morning we gave him breakfast slowly over an hour, and water following that.  No signs of distress or discomfort.  He stopped after 5 laps at the water bowl almost expecting the retching to start.  Nothing.  He quickly went back to the bowl and swallowed half the water bowl.  I had to stop him because he was swallowing so fast.  Still, no issues.  My wife and I are without words right now. 

So there was a time where this medication (Reglan) was necessary to keep food down.  But since we found and managed his Inflammatory Bowel Disease, it appears the reglan has been doing nothing but causing issues, until they got so bad that he could barely eat.  If I had to guess, it is causing the muscle around the valve at the top of his stomach to clench up tight so food can't easily pass into the stomach.  I don't really feel the need to verify that.

So thanks for the good thoughts!!  I was in a very dark place yesterday and really can't believe what a difference a day makes!  It may take me a few weeks to really feel confident that he's okay, and maybe once we get past this, I'll make sure something good comes from this.  While in the office yesterday I noticed a wall dedicated to a non-profit that helps provide care and services for animals with families in need.  When dealing with Chili's conditions over the last 2 years, we've come to learn that there are virtually no places you can go to build a chair for dogs that need to eat vertically.  You either devise something yourself if you have the tools and skills or you make do with a trash can or other solution.  In some cases there are people trying to profit from this by selling a simple chair for $400+.  My thought was to talk to the hospital about offering to build chairs for either people that can't afford it, or at cost for those who can afford one, but don't have the ability to make one themselves.  Who knows, maybe I'll come back here and ask Festool if I can solicit help from other Festoolies one day?  For those inclined to know more about what these families go through, search facebook for the Canine Megaesophagus page/forum/site.  It's almost horrific and for many of these dogs, this simple chair is the difference between life and death. 

I feel like a weight has been lifted!  This weekend I'm going to take a breather and finally unpack that Kapex that's been patiently waiting for me for 2 weeks!!  :)
-Raj

Offline Jon Hilgenberg

  • Posts: 1113
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #87 on: October 25, 2013, 10:56 AM »
That great news!  (Whew).

Jon
The more Festools I buy, the more money I earn.  The more money I earn, the more Festools I buy.  The more...
TS 55, TS 75, Domino, CT22, OF 2000, C12, CXS, RAS, Trion, Fogtainers!

Offline dicktill

  • Posts: 342
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #88 on: October 25, 2013, 11:39 AM »
 [thumbs up]   Yea Chili!!!

Offline Peter Halle

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 12380
  • Remington Steele - My Third Boy
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #89 on: October 25, 2013, 05:42 PM »
That is GREAT news!  We will keep sending good thoughts.  I bet Chili will sleep great tonight - as will you.  A progress report later would be appreciated.

Peter and MacGyver

Offline Untidy Shop

  • Posts: 2746
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #90 on: October 26, 2013, 06:36 AM »

Monty barks that this is great news and sends ongoing best wishes for continued improvement and health. 

 [smile]
If you don't like Signatures, just go to Look and Layout and tick No Signatures.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

Offline Chrisem

  • Posts: 28
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #91 on: October 26, 2013, 02:44 PM »
 [thumbs up] Yay for miracle hands!

Offline greg mann

  • Posts: 1907
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #92 on: November 04, 2013, 03:48 PM »
Here's my shop dog and part of his shop.
Greg Mann
Oakland, Michigan

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #93 on: November 04, 2013, 04:52 PM »
LOL @ pallet for a bed!
-Raj

Offline mastercabman

  • Posts: 1857
  • NORFOLK,VA
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #94 on: November 04, 2013, 05:11 PM »
Here's my shop dog and part of his shop.

No need to invest on a security system!! ;)
I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!

Offline wow

  • Inactive Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3579
  • Official WalMart greeter to the FOG
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #95 on: June 08, 2014, 09:13 PM »
I just discovered and read this thread. What a bunch of great dogs, and some wonderful (and sometimes sad) stories.

Here are my three 'part-time' shop dogs. The middle one goes where I go, but the other two tend to wander the yard if they can:

107762-0
Trying to be one of the most helpful members on the FOG.

Offline Tinker

  • Posts: 3762
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #96 on: June 13, 2014, 11:12 AM »
Here's my shop dog and part of his shop.

Greg,
Altho I had been following this thread a while back, i missed your input.
Do you use a forklift to move him around the shop?
After all, it is a pretty large space to have to move around in.   [popcorn]
Tinker
Wayne H. Tinker

Offline Upscale

  • Posts: 754
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #97 on: June 13, 2014, 09:57 PM »
Here are my three 'part-time' shop dogs. The middle one goes where I go, but the other two tend to wander the yard if they can:

Triplets!!! Must go through a ton of dog food every week. They look like they'd be great on a farm pulling the combine around.  :)

Offline wow

  • Inactive Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3579
  • Official WalMart greeter to the FOG
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #98 on: June 13, 2014, 11:14 PM »
Here are my three 'part-time' shop dogs. The middle one goes where I go, but the other two tend to wander the yard if they can:

Triplets!!! Must go through a ton of dog food every week. They look like they'd be great on a farm pulling the combine around.  :)

Nope, not triplets - but I do agree most people can't tell them apart.

They each eat 2 cups of dogfood per day. We keep 'em a little hungry in case any scumbag ebay or craigslister shows up wanting to 'try out' my Festool stuff at their place.

 [wink]
Trying to be one of the most helpful members on the FOG.

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #99 on: June 14, 2014, 08:36 AM »
Haha!  Wish that would work for me, but mine would just lick them to death!

Wow reminded me about this thread the other day...I haven't posted an update in a while.  So chili still has issues with the valve at the top of his stomach, but much less severe now that we've discontinued medications.  During the last 8 months I've only used the feeding chair during one relapse, otherwise he just needs to sit for 10 mins after eating or drinking and he's limited to 3/4 cup of fluids at a time.  With that routine he's fine 99% of the time.  A new issue developed, apparently his body is producing an excess of bile which leaks up to his stomach and causes him to throw up.  I suspect the irritation caused by this is making the original issue worse.  We've switched to a lower fat food, but that hasn't helped much.  He's on a 4x/day feeding schedule so his stomach doesn't stay empty for long and that seems to stem the vomiting.  But if I'm just 15 minutes late for his morning feeding, I'm cleaning up vomit.  I'm going to try adding some soluble fiber to his diet to see if that helps.  If any of you have run into a similar issue and have any tips I'm open to suggestions.  All in all though, we're still tied to the house so we can maintain the strict feeding schedule, but no longer spending hours a day feeding him, and on his last dr's visit she said he could stand to lose a few pounds!  The harsh winter was hard on all of us, since nobody was outside getting their daily walks in!  All things considered, we'll take it!   [smile]
-Raj

Offline RKA

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Shop Dog - RIP Chili
« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2021, 09:47 AM »
RIP my little boy.  See post #45 for the intro I posted in 2013 and a few updates along the way since then.  A week ago he suddenly developed debilitating pain in his neck and back.  Over 3 days we worked with the ER docs and determined oral meds would not work, the only relief he felt was from narcotics.  At 10 1/2 years old with all his pre-existing conditions, recovery from any kind of spinal surgery to address the source of the pain was not in the cards. 

We had him since he was a puppy.  At 1.5 years he began to develop some serious health issues.  In the years that followed, we struggled trying to find better doctors, more answers and trying different things to help him along.  With persistence and time we did eventually find a routine to manage his issues and 95% of the time he was a happy puppy.  Most of our neighbors only saw him when he was feeling well and had no idea he had serious health issues.  But that 5% was rough for him.  Still, he always bounced back happier than ever and lived a beautiful life.  A friend reminded me that this pandemic gave us the chance to spend our days with him 24/7 for the last year, and boy did he love that!

I’ve lost a dog before, but this one has been more difficult than I could imagine.  We were his full time nurses and advocates most of his life.  We fired one vet and one internal medicine specialist when it became clear they lacked the diagnostic skills we needed to help him.  We were fortunate to eventually find good doctors and and dog walkers to help us with all his special needs.  For the last 6 years we never left him, except to go to work or run to the store.  Everything in our house and lives revolved around him and his needs and the hole left by his passing is almost unbearable.  Once we make peace with this loss, we hope someday we will welcome another golden into our home.  I’ve already reached out and learned most breeders are holding off this year or pre-sold 2021 litters.  At least in my neighborhood, I’ve seen a surge in new dogs over the last year, so maybe it’s no surprise due to the pandemic.

Peter and Cheese, if you read this, give yours a giant hug.

RIP Chili.  No more pain, no more suffering, but please don’t swallow any more engagement rings up there!  You can eat all the food you want!  (The pic shows his pursed lips as he complains because I’m not getting up to give him a meal)
-Raj

Offline hdv

  • Posts: 327
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2021, 04:47 PM »
My deepest condolences for your loss​. I know how it feels all too well. It is hard. But never forget all the good times you had together. And that you spared nothing to give your friend the best life he could get. I don't know if it's any consolance, but they say dogs don't dwell on the past and the things they had to endure. They live in the now. I believe there might be some truth to that. My last dog before our current one was mistreated very very badly for the first 8 years of his life. Both physically and mentally. It took him almost a year to trust people again. But even on the very first day with us you could see he was happy to have a new home and a family where he was safe. He never went from my side up to the last day he was with us.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2021, 05:56 AM by hdv »

Offline Sparktrician

  • Posts: 4160
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #102 on: February 07, 2021, 01:18 PM »
My heart breaks for you and your family, Raj,  As someone that has a habit of adopting rescue dogs, I know where you are right now.  I'm reminded of a quote from a long-time friend.

"When a much-loved Best Friend leaves, he takes a piece of our hearts with him.  He also lovingly leaves a piece of his own heart with us to remind us
 of how much he loved us while he was here, and how much he longs to be the one to greet us when we, in turn, go to The Rainbow Bridge."

 - Zygmunt W. Hrozsmencko
« Last Edit: February 07, 2021, 01:20 PM by Sparktrician »
- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)

Offline rvieceli

  • Posts: 1446
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #103 on: February 07, 2021, 03:06 PM »
So sorry for your loss Raj. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Ron

Offline Cheese

  • Posts: 8567
Re: Shop Dog - RIP Chili
« Reply #104 on: February 08, 2021, 01:03 PM »

Peter and Cheese, if you read this, give yours a giant hug.


So sorry to hear the news Raj...I can't say anything to lessen your pain...I know, I've been there.  [crying]  [crying]

However, I did take your advice and gave a big hug and kisses to Jackson & Kaylee  [big grin] because as much as humans love to hug and kiss, retrievers love hugs and kisses even more.  [cool]

« Last Edit: February 08, 2021, 01:08 PM by Cheese »

Offline six-point socket II

  • Posts: 1607
  • formerly @the_black_tie_diyer - 22/02/21 inactive.
Re: Shop Dog
« Reply #105 on: February 09, 2021, 03:59 AM »
My deepest & heartfelt condolences for your loss, Raj!

Kind regards,
Oliver
Kind regards,
Oliver

"... . Say yes to stuff, and it will take you interesting places." - Anne Richards, CEO Fidelity International