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Offline HowardH

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Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« on: May 25, 2021, 11:08 PM »
anyone else been watching this on HBO?  I'm through 3 episodes and I'm disappointed that none of the designers are using Festool tools. Seem some Dewalt, Makita and a few others but no green. Design wise, I'm very impressed on how they can take an abstract idea and turn it into a piece of furniture. The incredible thing is they can go from commission to finished piece in about 4 days.  It's kinda like Top Chef in a shop instead of a kitchen. Worth a watch. 
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Offline Dr. P. Venkman

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2021, 01:13 AM »
It wouldn’t at all surprise me if the tool companies sponsored the show or paid for product placement in some way.

Offline Packard

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2021, 08:53 AM »
Festool supplied tools for This Old House, which seems like a better product placement opportunity.

Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2021, 09:31 AM »
If this is repeats of the old series, if I recall correctly, there is an episode where someone got kickback on a table saw.

Offline Packard

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2021, 09:50 AM »
I recall that too.  You would think that there would be a safety officer on the set to make sure that the contestants did not try risky practices while on the set. 

I enjoyed the show when it was originally broadcast. 

Offline mino

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2021, 10:10 AM »
I recall that too.  You would think that there would be a safety officer on the set to make sure that the contestants did not try risky practices while on the set. 

I enjoyed the show when it was originally broadcast.
Even if accidental, $#&@ happens. When you have it on film, why not use it to show DYI folks they need to be careful.

SawStop came out because even a Pro can make a mistake. Not because DYI-ers were screaming for it ..
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Offline Packard

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2021, 10:14 AM »
My dad used to say, "A wise man does not learn from his mistakes.  Anyone can learn from his mistakes, even a dog.  A wise man learns from other people's mistakes."

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2021, 10:18 AM »
looking it up, looks like it is a new show, not the 2 seasons from a few years back. And it's on HBO max, not HBO.

The old show had a couple folks with some good stuff, but in general those with nice stuff got eliminated, and the junk kept winning. Then they booted the winner because the design looked like something else someone had made, but later everything made it sound like the whole thing might have been planned to draw attention to the show.

Far as festool, again, stop and think about how many folks know of them or even own/use their tools, they are still extremely niche tool company. People have doing their work without them long before they were in the US.  But also even look at the TOH sponsorship. You would barely know it as they still use a ton of non-festool tools, often mixed in with the Festool stuff, and they use tools festool very much has.  Tommy keeps using old beat up circular saws for a lot of stuff.
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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2021, 10:25 AM »

Even if accidental, $#&@ happens. When you have it on film, why not use it to show DYI folks they need to be careful.


There was a show called "renovation realities" that was on for a few years.  People agreed to have a film crew film them do something that most the time the people had no experience in and were going to do a major project in just a few days.  Most folks failed terribly and had to send the show pictures a few months later when it got done. The show showed a lot of people nearly having major accidents, or getting hurt and in one the person almost sawed their head off with a chainsaw.  It was good for showing how not to use tools.

.  -> Warning, you might not want to watch that.

Offline Packard

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2021, 10:26 AM »
The thing with This Old House is that I trust them.  I trust their advice and I trust that they would not use stuff that was inferior just to make some money. 

I might be naive, but that is how I feel about them.  Other shoes do not engender such trust (from me).

Offline Packard

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2021, 10:43 AM »
The thing with This Old House is that I trust them.  I trust their advice and I trust that they would not use stuff that was inferior just to make some money. 

I might be naive, but that is how I feel about them.  Other shoes do not engender such trust (from me).

My friend, a tree surgeon, once told me that the mistake most people make is assuming that a small chain saw is safer than a large one.  The opposite is true.  It is much easier to catch the tip (what happened in that video) with a saw with a short bar.  A longer bar probably would have been OK.

He told me that working overhead in a harness up in a tree was the most dangerous situation.  You cannot really see if the tip is clearing the branch and if there is something that might catch the tip beond that branch.  Some consumer-grade saws have a kickback safety guard.  (Zinc plated part at the tip of the saw below.  Most seem to be made from plastic, however.

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Offline mino

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2021, 07:46 PM »
My friend, a tree surgeon, once told me that the mistake most people make is assuming that a small chain saw is safer than a large one.  The opposite is true.  It is much easier to catch the tip (what happened in that video) with a saw with a short bar.  A longer bar probably would have been OK.

He told me that working overhead in a harness up in a tree was the most dangerous situation.  You cannot really see if the tip is clearing the branch and if there is something that might catch the tip beond that branch.  Some consumer-grade saws have a kickback safety guard.  (Zinc plated part at the tip of the saw below.  Most seem to be made from plastic, however.


In my high school physics experiments on "momentum" I learned one thing:

NEVER EVER hold/use a tool in such a way that your body is in its path shall it go haywire. Served me well when a disc in a grinder "exploded" while using it.

Er .. and from plunging a 3" knife in my lower leg while breaking a branch /with a knife in hand as why not, right? .. / as a kid ...
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Offline HowardH

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2021, 09:53 PM »
Yes!  One of the designers was using an OF1400.  Whew!
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Offline vkumar

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2021, 11:53 PM »
For anyone searching for this show, it is called Ellen's Next Great Designer" on HBO Max
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Offline HowardH

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2021, 11:07 PM »
Just finished the finale. Festool everywhere. Kapex, TS75, sanders galore. As it should be. Now to something a bit more serious. These guys were flat out brilliant.  Not only their craftsmanship but as designers. I'm pretty good at using machines and following plans but as someone who possesses the vision and the ability to conceptualize, well, forget it. Of course, one grew up around woodworking and furniture design and the other went to Harvard and received a degree in architecture so there's that.  As long as there are clever people out there who are willing to share their designs for guys like me to build, it's all good. 
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2021, 06:17 PM »
My dad used to say, "A wise man does not learn from his mistakes.  Anyone can learn from his mistakes, even a dog.  A wise man learns from other people's mistakes."
That is similar to the way I say it.

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Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Ellen DeGeneres Design show
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2021, 07:01 PM »
Well, in the finale that whole design-and-build-it-in-four-days thing surely reeked. Finishing wood furniture (with what? they did not show that!) in like half an hour before the deadline? No way.
Also, considering the interior design of the judge that hosted the finale, one can not but wonder how she became a "very prominent and rich designer to the stars" — it was pretty awful and tasteless.
It was one of those mostly scripted and altogether very unrealistic 'reality' shows that are a curse on tv. Glad I didn’t watch the episodes before the finale.
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