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Online rvieceli

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Does this happen to you?
« on: May 07, 2021, 05:00 PM »
I am constantly amazed at my professional level ability to put something away so I can find it again and then NEVER finding it.  [scared]

I am currently searching for a brand new Kutzall disk that should be somewhere in the shop. So far no joy, but I did find my Hello Kitty dry erase board.  [blink]

Oh well the shop’s not that big, so it should turn up.  [crying]

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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2021, 05:07 PM »
If I say no or never, it's a lie. [big grin]

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2021, 05:19 PM »
It might take months, even years, it may even survive a home move..
the relief is that you will be gifted with two or even more than two in the future.. [embarassed]

It’s my nature to buy two identical items (considering it doesn’t cost too much..) if I find something unique or special to me. One is always kept prestine as a spare  [big grin]
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2021, 05:28 PM »
I've resigned myself to the Law of Small Objects - If I need a small object, I'd better buy two.  If I buy one, I'll lose it forever, but if I buy two, I'll never lose the first one and have a back-up forever.   [embarassed]
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2021, 06:17 PM »
Buying or having more than one identical small tool or item will work ONLY if you don't keep them together or they're in plain sight...DAMHIK! [big grin]

I keep many items in multiple quantity in my shop because I don't want to walk across the shop to get them, and they include: pencils, rules, squares, and tapes.
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Offline shanegrilah

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2021, 07:49 PM »
I was going to ask this same question a couple weeks ago, but forgot.

Setting something down then performing another task and forgetting the location of the item next time I need it is constantly happening to me. Multiple tape measures, rulers, pencils, etc. help. It's really annoying when it's something I only have one of. Like the vacuum floor brush I've been looking for for several months. My shop is in the basement, only one exit and there is no one else here to blame.  Always a fun routine of mine to check the same spot over and over. Like the 7th time I check the same spot, it will suddenly appear there.

Another favorite is when I start to question whether I had something in the first place and it's just my memory inventing things. Things I haven't used in a while fall into this category. Plumbing parts for example. Thought I had a spare toilet flapper that I needed recently. Couldn't find it in the usual plumbing spares cabinet so had to go buy another one.

I question my mental capability more and more frequently.

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2021, 08:04 PM »
Three household moves later I struggle to find things that used to have a specific place. When we first moved I had 74 bins and tons of cardboard boxes. Now I have no idea what or where anything is. I always joke about walking around with two items in my hands trying to get them into a sensible location. I tend to spend hours a week doing so. Frustration abounds as I can't organize until I dig out our under house storage, for which I did buy a plate compactor today. *sigh* it is going to be a long time before I am fully organized with cabinetry built.

Offline Wayne CW

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2021, 08:31 PM »
The only thing i never lost in my shop was the table saw. 🤫
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Offline tsmi243

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2021, 08:44 PM »
"The fastest way to locate a lost object is to purchase a replacement"

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Offline rst

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2021, 08:48 PM »
I once spent quite a few minutes looking for my tape measure after 7 hours of cutting aluminum, storefront extrusions, finally  found it in my left hand...closed up, went home had a couple beers.

Offline Imemiter

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2021, 08:52 PM »
Yes, to excess! I am constantly trying to remember where I put something so I wouldn't forget where I put it.
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Offline Mortiser

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2021, 08:55 PM »
The really frustrating thing is, that you find it in the last place you look.  [sad]
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Offline jimbo51

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2021, 09:02 PM »
The other day I bought some memory enhancing pills. Still trying to remember where I put them.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2021, 09:43 PM »
The only thing i never lost in my shop was the table saw. 🤫

You need to find a bigger shop then

Offline Don T

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2021, 09:47 PM »
Go and look for another tool and that one will show up.  Guaranteed to show up if you go buy another one.
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Offline squall_line

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2021, 09:59 PM »
"A place for everything and everything in its place."

I was looking for my staplegun just under a year after moving.  Finally found it, but couldn't find the staples.  Eventually found the staples but then I couldn't find the staplegun.

I bought a Sys-Mini for my staplegun and I haven't misplaced it or the staples since.

There are only 2 or 3 places in the house that I will set my phone down if I'm not carrying it on me.  The only time I've had to have my wife call my phone to listen for the ringtone was when I put it down in a non-usual spot.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2021, 10:00 PM »
The other day I bought some memory enhancing pills. Still trying to remember where I put them.
I could probably find them, but I aint sure that my memory of the name of the pills was correct when I bought them! [tongue] 

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2021, 10:53 PM »
I bought a label machine, wish I know where I put it

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2021, 02:39 AM »
I bought a label machine, wish I know where I put it
Oddly I know exactly where mine is. It was one of the hand carried two items at a time that found a proper home in one of my tools boxes. Just don't ask me where the spare ribbon paper for it is.

Offline Thompmd

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2021, 07:42 AM »
I call them Gumballs.... it’s similar to my memory. Someone tells me something and it goes into my memory but I have no idea where it went?? Remember the gum all machine when you put a quarter in, turn the knob hoping for a grape gum but you watch helplessly as a white gumball goes around .... same thing meaning you never know what’s coming out.

So every day is a new day.

Looking for things is kinda like Xmas, you never know what your gonna find until you unwrap.

I just read my response, looks like I’ll need another quarter
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Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2021, 08:16 AM »
"The fastest way to locate a lost object is to purchase a replacement"

Found on Garagejournal.com

Well, that explains why I have three tea infusers...   [big grin]
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2021, 08:51 AM »
About the only things I lose are pencils or the occasional tape measure. I generally keep two out, in use. One hanging off of my pocket and one at the chopsaw station. That one doesn't get a lot of use because I am a firm believer in the Kreg stop system. I have nearly 12' on the left and just over 6' on the right. That is also the one I point to when someone asks to borrow a tape, just in case it doesn't come back quickly.
Between the big mechanics box and all of the Systainers, I am pretty well organized. For the most part, I keep powertools in the original case, and they all have a specific place to be stored. The main exception to that is compact routers/laminate trimmers. They are grouped together in drawers.
Some people hate cases because they waste space. While I will admit that some are better than others, I like to keep them and use them. The ones I really dislike are the canvas bag style. They might keep things together, but they don't stack/store well or protect the contents like a hard box can.
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Offline Jeff Zanin

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2021, 10:24 AM »
My most recent episode involved a TS55 cement board blade which I bought using a Lee Valley gift card.  I anticipated needing it for a future project, and although I am happy to receive gift cards I always fret about losing track of them, so I use them as soon as possible.  The result was that I bought the blade months before the project.

The months pass, it is time to cut cement - where is the cement blade?  I have a dedicated Systainer for TS blades - it is not there.  It is not on the workbench, or in the Systainer with the TS55.  Or on the TS55.  Or anyplace else that I might keep saw blades.  Or anywhere in the workshop, which actually got a pretty good straightening-up as a result of this fiasco.

Days go by, no cement blade.  I even check my e-mails and find that yes, I did order one.  It is too expensive to just order another one, so the project is delayed.

More time goes by, for some reason it is necessary to move some papers sitting beside the printer in my office.  There is the blade, fresh in its box, under a sheaf of papers.

And now I remember why: I picked it up, it was not in a box or other store packaging, just the box the blade comes in.  I brought it into the house along with some other things which I brought to the office, and while doing something else I put the blade beside the printer "just for a moment".  Later I put papers on top of the blade, thinking "I'll take that to the workshop next time I go there..." - of course that never happened.

But I was very pleased to find the blade, the next day the cement cutting proceeded and it worked great.  And now it is put away properly where I will be able to find it next time.

Offline threesixright

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2021, 10:53 AM »
Guilty.  [blink]

I would take it one step further. Buying stuff I already bought  [embarassed]

Numerous times I thought to get organised. I ended up simply downloading for all tools the PDF manuals and organise it by brand.  So before I buy i check this folder. But that only takes care of the bigger tools, consumables is (still) a nightmare.


Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2021, 01:58 PM »
The really frustrating thing is, that you find it in the last place you look.  [sad]
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It would really be bad if you kept looking for it after you found it. See rst above.

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2021, 04:07 PM »
The really frustrating thing is, that you find it in the last place you look.  [sad]
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Of course you found it in the last place you looked. Once found, why would you continue looking in more places?  [tongue]
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Offline dwillis

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2021, 05:31 PM »
I can't count the number of times I've misplaced a tool. Because my career required so many moves my tools would get packed up then partially unpacked or left in sealed boxes. For example I have half a dozen Vice Grips because every time I needed one and couldn't find it I bought another. Now that I'm retired and the boxes are getting opened and sorted (kind of like Christmas) my solution is using a lot of various sized clear plastic bins from the Container Store. Every item is sorted by like kind, hence a bin full of Vice Grips. But the end result is all of the tools and supplies have a home and all I have to do is pull a bin off the shelf and everything I need is in one place. They are called "Our Clear Storage Boxes" and come in a variety of sizes, made in the USA, and are made of polypropylene. Our Clear Storage Boxes
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Offline Alex

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2021, 05:45 PM »
Does this happen to you? Ha, of course, and worse, sometimes I am looking for my tape measure, getting frustrated that I can't see it right away while I know it's around, only to find out it's already in my hand.  [tongue]

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2021, 07:57 PM »
The really frustrating thing is, that you find it in the last place you look.  [sad]
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Of course you found it in the last place you looked. Once found, why would you continue looking in more places?  [tongue]
That is an often mis-quoted phrase. It is actually "in the last place you would look". Meaning that it is not likely that you would find your eyeglasses in the refrigerator. Literally the last place you would look.
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Offline Euclid

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2021, 02:02 PM »
... Meaning that it is not likely that you would find your eyeglasses in the refrigerator ...

That might be true in your house; however...
 [wink]

Offline mino

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2021, 08:42 PM »
My solution to this is - DING! - boxes, er, Systainers!

Ehm. Nough dreaming. Just. Standardized. Boxes.


About 10 yrs ago, after the frustration from 3 moves in 3 years, I have standardized on 60x40 and 40x30 (cm) Euro-containers.

EVERY, and I DO mean EVERY, tool, material stack, spare part stack goes into a box which gets dedicated for it and is not used for anything else.
The only exceptions are things which do not fit a 60x40x30-ish euro container. I have a couple 80x60x40 containers for some. But bigger things are usually not too many and not too easy to lose sight of ...

Sizes are in centimeters, but the point is not in sizes being consistent. Key is the "dedicate box to a scope and do not use it for other scopes no matter what" concept.
One must keep the dedicated boxes "pure" and never spoil them with other stuff "just for now temporarily" as that kills the whole point of not having to think "is it in that box possibly" 10 years later.

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I use this both in shop and in home, with home ones just the nicer version like these:
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In any place I move to now, I make a couple floor-to-ceiling cabinets purpose-made for the boxes with just simple "L" aluminum slides that take advantage of the "stacking" protrusions. That is good-enough for accessibility and allows easy access even for a box placed close to the ceiling. it also facilitates their complete removal when I need the whole boxes somewhere else temporarily. That it is cost-effective and space-efficient is just a side-benefit here.

A box is designated for a <given class /category of a thing> and every thing from that category I buy or get hold of then will go to that box. When I move or re-arrange, I move boxes. I never move individual things anymore.

When a box fills up and cannot accept another thing, I assess if the value of the content justifies a bigger box, or if oldest/worst stuff should be just "decommissioned" instead. The finite size of the box creates a natural psychological barrier to not over-hoard parts etc.

When a box is long-term less than half full, I move the category to a smaller box.

I always keep around a couple "spare" boxes which are used generally and that allow some storage capacity to be always ready to "dedicate" should a new category of stuff appear.


IMO the key to organized storage is to always remember organization >>> space efficiency. One must not succumb to the temptation and must not "multi-purpose" a box just because it is "under-utilized" in space. The "box storage system" purpose is to provide consistent and stable organization. Its purpose is NOT to be space-efficient. Trying to make it so results in an expensive inefficient organized chaos. At that point one would be better/cheaper off with unorganized chaos ...

The drive for space efficiency "evil" is in forcing dynamism in content of boxes and that dynamism is what becomes dynamitism for being able to find stuff. Our brain capacity is limited, and it will just "blow up" once a supportable threshold of modifications is crossed.

Per above, I use the "box system" to be able to avoid thinking about stuff. And that only works if I can rely on my (cheap) long-term memory what (type of) thing is in what (type/number/size etc.) of box. If that box does not change for 5 or 10 years, I will be able to find it easily and with no effort expended even 10 yrs later, irrespective of the 5 moves and 30 rearrangements since the box purpose was established.


YMMV, but above works for me for storing any and all "utilitarian" things where there is a need to be able to easily and reliably find it or get the "do I have it or not" answer.

It is a strictly utilitarian concept though. Not suitable for things where the the joy of finding that other old forgotten book is worth more than not being able to find the one looked for.
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Offline mino

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2021, 08:49 PM »
Meaning that it is not likely that you would find your eyeglasses in the refrigerator. Literally the last place you would look.
True.
But you may find your radio buzzer in the freezer. About a month after you bought a new one and made a scene to a girlfriend that "must have" thrown it our for being annoying ...

Part 2:
Yes, I put it there .. for there was no better place to put it, apparently ..
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Offline Peter_C

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2021, 12:59 AM »
That is an often mis-quoted phrase. It is actually "in the last place you would look". Meaning that it is not likely that you would find your eyeglasses in the refrigerator. Literally the last place you would look.
Hmmm...having taken care of dementia patients the fridge is often a good place to look for things. Cell phone in the cereal box was a good one too. Let alone the thousand other places things can hide, and eyeglasses are probably the most lost item...or a wallet, keys, shaver, toothbrush, and the list goes on.

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Online rvieceli

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2021, 02:16 PM »


Look what I found today! Of course, it was after a new one was delivered yesterday. But I did order a different grit that I had been thinking about getting. But still.

It was in a drawer that I looked in more than once and wasn’t even under anything.  [eek]

Oh well.

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Offline Packard

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2021, 11:04 AM »
I watched a TV show about organizing clutter and apparently "once size" does not fit all in this category. 

Types of organization:

1.  Visual.  You need to see things at all times.  Visual people like hanging things on pegboard and always in the same location.
2.  Fast and dirty.  You like to toss similar items in bins that are easily accessed.
3.  Hidden.  You like to have things behind closed doors.
4.  Hidden and highly organized.  Items behind closed doors have special places reserved for them.

I'm a visual organizer.  As long as I don't add new tools, I am OK.  A few new tools and things fall into disarray until I add more peg board space.  I also favor fast and dirty.  I have bins for tile work, painting, etc.  I might have to rummage in those bins, but I know the stuff is there.

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Offline Alex

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2021, 11:07 AM »
Fast and dirty, as always.  [tongue]

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2021, 11:17 AM »
My problem is I need things to be arranged as in #1 but the way I put stuff up is #2.
So it's a total mess in between cleanups.

Example. About 2 months ago I used my drywall T-square. I know I used it in the garage
cutting some boards and no where else since then. Why haven't I used it since then you ask?
I can't find the darn thing to save my butt. I have looked in the garage, in the shop, in the
basement, and over at my BILs place where I have a shipping container with a bunch of tools
and lumber stored.

It's in none of those places. There is no one here to use it besides me. Wife wouldn't use it
she has her own tools for cutting stuff in here craft room but I looked anyway, nope, not there.

To this day I still have not found it and I have looked intentionally at least 6 times not to mention
keeping an eye out for it as I go about my daily routine. It's 2 feet wide and 4 feet long, where
could it be hiding. It's the fixed head type not adjustable so it's not folded up tucked away somewhere.
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2021, 11:21 AM »
I watched a TV show about organizing clutter and apparently "once size" does not fit all in this category. 

Types of organization:

1.  Visual.  You need to see things at all times.  Visual people like hanging things on pegboard and always in the same location.
2.  Fast and dirty.  You like to toss similar items in bins that are easily accessed.
3.  Hidden.  You like to have things behind closed doors.
4.  Hidden and highly organized.  Items behind closed doors have special places reserved for them.

Snip.

For me....ALL of them, and all over the place (including the basement). That should explain why at times i struggle to locate the item that I know it's somewhere in the shop or house!

Offline Packard

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2021, 11:43 AM »
According to the expert, you first have to figure out which system works best for you.  Find any area of you life that is well-organized.  Then analyze what system is in place there.  That should point you to the system that works best for you.

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2021, 12:07 PM »
I tend toward some combination of #1 and #4, and once it is set up, I do pretty well maintaining it.

But I suffer badly from paralysis in the initial setup.  I want to think about everything and set it up perfectly the first time, which often isn't a reasonable goal.

I would usually do much better to admit that an organizational system is adjustable and just get started.

I also sometimes forget to properly cushion a system like tool organization.  If everything is packed in tight from the beginning (even if well organized), you can't add new things, and making any changes is much harder. When possible, definitely plan for an empty shelf/drawer/whatever in your setup.

Offline Packard

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2021, 02:52 PM »
When I had my picture framing business I had all the tools I needed at the very beginning and I set up a miter work station, a matt cutting work station, a glue-up work station,  art mounting station etc.  Each station had its own set of tools that never left the station.  That meant duplicates of many tools, but the efficiency was improved by having a screw driver at each station, a mat knife at each station, etc. 

That was the only work I did where everything was perfectly organized and remained that way. 

A big part of that was having duplicates of many tools, but a worthy investment.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2021, 03:33 PM »
Snip.Each station had its own set of tools that never left the station.  That meant duplicates of many tools,

Every station/machine in my shop has a set of all of these:

Tape measure
Pencils (pl.)
Ear plugs (pl.)
6" rule
Engineer square or precision square
Awls (pl.; aka thumb pins)
A rare earth magnet or two (where the above are attached to)

and wherever a machine and a shop vac/dust deputy co-exist: an auto switch - https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/workshop/dust-collection/parts-and-accessories/63013-ivac-automatic-vacuum-switch?item=03J6210


Offline Packard

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2021, 03:55 PM »
I had set up my video camera and recorded a few hours of my back room work.  I found that I was going from station to station to find a wire nipper, utility knife, etc. 

I first got duplicates of the basic tools.  Then I found that I was replacing blades on my utility knife and that was slowing things down.  I bought a dozen knives and made sure they all had sharp blades at the start of the day. 

A video camera can teach you a lot about how to be efficient (if you have semi-repetitive tasks). 

Offline Alex

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2021, 04:19 PM »
Snip.Each station had its own set of tools that never left the station.  That meant duplicates of many tools,

Every station/machine in my shop has a set of all of these:

Tape measure
Pencils (pl.)
Ear plugs (pl.)
6" rule
Engineer square or precision square
Awls (pl.; aka thumb pins)
A rare earth magnet or two (where the above are attached to)

Ha, I devised a plan like that once.

I had this favourite Stanley tape measure, but somehow I always misplaced it. So when I got a chance to buy them for only a few euros each I bought 4 of them and devised a plan: I would put a tape measure, a stanley knife, a pencil, and a pair of scissors in every place I did stuff. So I put a set in the attic, in the study, in the garage, one in my main tool systainer, and one in my drill kit with the T15 and all its drill and bits and heads.

And then I find myself at a job with 4 tape measures in the systainer, and 6 knifes, but the scissors are nowhere to be found. And the only pencil I have with me has a broken tip, but no sharpener.  [huh]

But, in general the system works, I just have multiples of the most used tools so there's always one not too far from me. Only sometimes I just can't find something while I remember I just saw it the other day, and I know it's not my fault, but somehow the darker forces in the universe conspired against me and temporarily zapped it into another dimension to punish me for that one moment when I felt like not saying hello to somebody 15 years ago.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2021, 04:37 PM »
"And then I find myself at a job with 4 tape measures in the systainer, and 6 knifes, but the scissors are nowhere to be found."

Knowing me I think if I tried this I would end up with the same result Alex.

Oh, and don't forget glasses. I have reading glasses everywhere so I don't have to hunt for them and I know (but sometimes forget) not to take them with me when I leave the garage shop or basement shop, the truck, or the ham shack or anywhere else. But once in a while I forget to take them off and then I have two pair of glasses in one spot. But where do the second pair call home, that is the question.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2021, 04:40 PM by Bob D. »
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2021, 07:59 PM »
I wear the same pair of eyeglasses in the shop or elsewhere, though there're several pairs of safety glasses (worn over the the eyeglasses). I have four types of ear protection, and the corded ear plugs, a dozen of them or so, are everywhere. I clean them from time to time. At any one time, there must be at least two dozens of mechanical pens scattered across the shop.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2021, 08:47 PM by ChuckM »