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Offline mino

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2021, 08:42 PM »
My solution to this is - DING! - boxes, er, Systainers!

Ehm. Nough dreaming. Just. Standardized. Boxes.


About 10 yrs ago, after the frustration from 3 moves in 3 years, I have standardized on 60x40 and 40x30 (cm) Euro-containers.

EVERY, and I DO mean EVERY, tool, material stack, spare part stack goes into a box which gets dedicated for it and is not used for anything else.
The only exceptions are things which do not fit a 60x40x30-ish euro container. I have a couple 80x60x40 containers for some. But bigger things are usually not too many and not too easy to lose sight of ...

Sizes are in centimeters, but the point is not in sizes being consistent. Key is the "dedicate box to a scope and do not use it for other scopes no matter what" concept.
One must keep the dedicated boxes "pure" and never spoil them with other stuff "just for now temporarily" as that kills the whole point of not having to think "is it in that box possibly" 10 years later.

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Details/inspiration:

I use this both in shop and in home, with home ones just the nicer version like these:
https://www.tbaplast.cz/editor/image/eshop_products/128700_5b0e8b71d4045_l.jpg

In any place I move to now, I make a couple floor-to-ceiling cabinets purpose-made for the boxes with just simple "L" aluminum slides that take advantage of the "stacking" protrusions. That is good-enough for accessibility and allows easy access even for a box placed close to the ceiling. it also facilitates their complete removal when I need the whole boxes somewhere else temporarily. That it is cost-effective and space-efficient is just a side-benefit here.

A box is designated for a <given class /category of a thing> and every thing from that category I buy or get hold of then will go to that box. When I move or re-arrange, I move boxes. I never move individual things anymore.

When a box fills up and cannot accept another thing, I assess if the value of the content justifies a bigger box, or if oldest/worst stuff should be just "decommissioned" instead. The finite size of the box creates a natural psychological barrier to not over-hoard parts etc.

When a box is long-term less than half full, I move the category to a smaller box.

I always keep around a couple "spare" boxes which are used generally and that allow some storage capacity to be always ready to "dedicate" should a new category of stuff appear.


IMO the key to organized storage is to always remember organization >>> space efficiency. One must not succumb to the temptation and must not "multi-purpose" a box just because it is "under-utilized" in space. The "box storage system" purpose is to provide consistent and stable organization. Its purpose is NOT to be space-efficient. Trying to make it so results in an expensive inefficient organized chaos. At that point one would be better/cheaper off with unorganized chaos ...

The drive for space efficiency "evil" is in forcing dynamism in content of boxes and that dynamism is what becomes dynamitism for being able to find stuff. Our brain capacity is limited, and it will just "blow up" once a supportable threshold of modifications is crossed.

Per above, I use the "box system" to be able to avoid thinking about stuff. And that only works if I can rely on my (cheap) long-term memory what (type of) thing is in what (type/number/size etc.) of box. If that box does not change for 5 or 10 years, I will be able to find it easily and with no effort expended even 10 yrs later, irrespective of the 5 moves and 30 rearrangements since the box purpose was established.


YMMV, but above works for me for storing any and all "utilitarian" things where there is a need to be able to easily and reliably find it or get the "do I have it or not" answer.

It is a strictly utilitarian concept though. Not suitable for things where the the joy of finding that other old forgotten book is worth more than not being able to find the one looked for.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2021, 08:46 PM by mino »
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Offline mino

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2021, 08:49 PM »
Meaning that it is not likely that you would find your eyeglasses in the refrigerator. Literally the last place you would look.
True.
But you may find your radio buzzer in the freezer. About a month after you bought a new one and made a scene to a girlfriend that "must have" thrown it our for being annoying ...

Part 2:
Yes, I put it there .. for there was no better place to put it, apparently ..
 [big grin]
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AGC 18@AGC 125 flange, BHC 18, C 12, CTM 36, DRC 18/4, PSC 420, RS 200, TSC 55
Protool: AGP 125, VCP 260
Narex: EDH 82, EFH 36@LR32, EVP 13 H-2CA, S 57 A
My Precious: 376, 376, 376 holy, 632, 1016 holy, 1400 holy, 2400, GECKO, GRS 16 PE, GRS 16 PE

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2021, 12:59 AM »
That is an often mis-quoted phrase. It is actually "in the last place you would look". Meaning that it is not likely that you would find your eyeglasses in the refrigerator. Literally the last place you would look.
Hmmm...having taken care of dementia patients the fridge is often a good place to look for things. Cell phone in the cereal box was a good one too. Let alone the thousand other places things can hide, and eyeglasses are probably the most lost item...or a wallet, keys, shaver, toothbrush, and the list goes on.

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Offline rvieceli

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Re: Does this happen to you?
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2021, 02:16 PM »


Look what I found today! Of course, it was after a new one was delivered yesterday. But I did order a different grit that I had been thinking about getting. But still.

It was in a drawer that I looked in more than once and wasn’t even under anything.  [eek]

Oh well.

Ron