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Offline Gregor

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Thinking about the topic http://festoolownersgroup.com/general-friendly-chat/d-day-75-years/ I have a honest question.

If this topic is accepted content here, and according to a moderator post should be limited to 'horray' posts... can we also post similar worded topics - just regarding different dates, locations and historic figures involved? Like:
31. December 1775, Quebec and Georg II.?
17. April 1961, Cuba Bay of Pigs and Fidel Castro?
11. September 2001, New York/Washington DC and (alleged) Osama bin Laden?
(just to pick some examples to make the point visible)
Or not, as these groups didn't shoulder the burden of ridding the world of evil by not eventually defeating their enemy?

So now the honest question: Should stuff like that (including the linked topic) have a place on this forum?

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: Question regarding celebrations of death and destruction
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2019, 12:31 PM »
You are missing the point of my post.  Which I tried to do in a less blunt and in a contributory way.  But since that didn't work .................................

        Keep it out of politics and debate.

      The point of the OPs topic was simply to thank and remember those that took part in D Day in WWII. Not to start a debate on political comparisons, etc.

    And no I am not going to debate the merits of all the rest of your historical examples, etc, etc.

 Seth

Offline demographic

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Re: Question regarding celebrations of death and destruction
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2019, 03:36 PM »
Problem with history is that it is politics.
Miss that and you stand a good chance of repeating mistakes.

Offline six-point socket II

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Re: Question regarding celebrations of death and destruction
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2019, 03:52 PM »
Hi Gregor,

Yes, the topic linked has a place on this forum.

Your comments in that regard have not, I think you are way, way out of line in both instances.

There are plenty of places where you can discuss (conspiracy)- theories about financiers, profiteers (...) of wars, attacks (...) and (potential/ hypothetical) war crimes if you wish - but that has absolutely no place in a thread for commemorating D-Day.

I won't discuss this any further.


Kind regards,
Oliver
Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: Question regarding celebrations of death and destruction
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2019, 04:10 PM »
Hi Gregor

You have really missed the point in the thread that you have linked.

People honour those who fought for their country no matter what country it might be. Military people do their duty and their sacrifice will always be honoured by their fellows and the succeeding generations.

Try visiting the St. SYMPHORIEN Military Cemetery in Mons where WW1 started. It is very moving as there are both British and German soldiers buried there together. The British dead were buried with full military honours during the battle for Mons in 1914 by the Germans.

Forget the politics of the past and move on. My Grandfather was killed in Ypres in WW1 yet I was very proud when one of my German Captains working for me in SHAPE gave a talk about Verdun, another place that saw needless sacrifice. I led the standing ovation following his honest take on yet another futile battle.

I have worked for several German generals and have enjoyed their respect and done my best to serve them well. Bearing grudges from long past events is simply stupid and does nobody any good.

Move on.

Peter
« Last Edit: June 11, 2019, 12:53 AM by Peter Parfitt »

Offline Joe Felchlin

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Re: Question regarding celebrations of death and destruction
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2019, 04:48 PM »
I guess there’s a place on most “focus” on-line forums for “off topic” or “entertainment” sections.
Personally (and I’d guess for most other FOG members) -
I couldn’t care less about your politics, what you’re cooking for dinner, or where you’re going on vacation.
My intent in being part of the FESTOOL OWNERS GROUP forum is -
To learn and share about Festool (and comparative brands of) products.

Nonetheless...
Great commentary, Peter.👍
And “bucket loads” of grace for your patience, Seth.👏
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Offline mikeomalley

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Re: Question regarding celebrations of death and destruction
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2019, 05:33 PM »
Totally agree Peter and Seth.


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