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Offline alice

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Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« on: August 09, 2019, 07:42 AM »
I’m going to build some 5 piece panel doors and spray them with a Benjamin Moore scuff x paint.Would like some advice on limiting cracking if any around panel and frame if possible. Materials considered 5 piece all mdf door or 5 piece poplar frame with mdf panel.

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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2019, 08:46 AM »
The face side of the rail and stile grooves, back cut/sand them so that edge is not tight to the panel.

You can caulk the seam after priming.

There are cutters available that will easy the edge when you make the rail and stiles.

I recommend hard maple over the poplar.

Tom

Offline alice

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2019, 09:01 AM »
What’s the purpose of caulking flexibility,gap or both ? Is the Reason for maple for better finish product not movement.

Thanks Tom

Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2019, 01:44 PM »
What’s the purpose of caulking flexibility,gap or both ?

Allows proper bridging and inevitable gaping between the panel and the rail and stile.

Is the Reason for maple for better finish product not movement.

Yes better finished product and more resilience to everyday use.
Tim

Offline Alan G

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2019, 09:38 PM »

You can caulk the seam after priming.



What caulk do you guys use?
Curious if there would be a different choice for Solvent or WB top coats?

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2019, 09:20 AM »

You can caulk the seam after priming.



What caulk do you guys use?
Curious if there would be a different choice for Solvent or WB top coats?

I have gone back to using Big Stretch under the water borne. I had hopes the new urethanes would work, I was getting finish checking even after days of caulk cure.

On our new doors with the relieved edge, there is no need for caulk.

Key thing-----caulk after priming.

Tom

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2019, 09:32 AM »
@tjbnwi   “On our new doors with the relieved edge, there is no need for caulk.”

Can you describe that profile a little more?

Offline Alan G

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2019, 09:41 AM »

You can caulk the seam after priming.



What caulk do you guys use?
Curious if there would be a different choice for Solvent or WB top coats?

I have gone back to using Big Stretch under the water borne. I had hopes the new urethanes would work, I was getting finish checking even after days of caulk cure.

On our new doors with the relieved edge, there is no need for caulk.

Key thing-----caulk after priming.

Tom

Okay. Thanks for the info.
Was curious if you have ever seen a router bit set that has the relieved edge. I dont have a shaper.

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2019, 09:45 AM »
No I have not. None of my router bit sets have the relieved edge.

Tom

Offline Alan G

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2019, 09:51 AM »
No I have not. None of my router bit sets have the relieved edge.

Tom

Yah. Me either. Too bad.

Offline JD2720

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2019, 11:16 AM »
It is easy to relief the groove with a block sander. I use one of the Festool block sanders.
A few strokes with the corner of the sander in the groove quickly knocks the sharp edge off of the pieces.

Offline veric13

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2019, 12:20 PM »

Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Spraying 5 piece panel doors
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2019, 05:33 PM »

Was curious if you have ever seen a router bit set that has the relieved edge. I dont have a shaper.

Yes, some (older) Freud rail and stile bits have relieved edges.
It is difficult to actually figure out which one as their catalogue is not as descriptive as it used to be.
tim