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Offline jparker

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3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« on: June 17, 2018, 09:00 PM »
Does anyone happen to know if the 3M PPS Series 2 is going to have a H/O cup that will work with Fuji?  3M lists Series 2 adapters for Fuji guns but I don’t see any H/O cups available.

Thanks

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2018, 09:41 PM »
Is the series 2 a new version of the PPS system? I didnt know they came out with a new one.
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Offline duburban

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2018, 10:57 PM »
I just went all-in on series 1... No wonder there was confusion regarding the measuring markings during my shopping process...
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Offline JCLP

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2018, 06:01 AM »
Series 2 requires new adapters for the new pressure cups, liners and lids. 3M in Canada, will exchange the adapters free of charge but you have to purchase the new cup and lids.

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JC

Offline RKA

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2018, 09:56 AM »
I just went all-in on series 1... No wonder there was confusion regarding the measuring markings during my shopping process...

Same here.  I saw v2.0, but couldn't find the H/O cups and gave up.  I suspect they may release them eventually, but for now, nada.
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2018, 10:58 PM »
Whats the improvement for the Series 2 stuff? I recently bought all the Series 1 setup but havent even opened it all yet.
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Offline ben_r_

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2018, 11:26 AM »
A Fuji gun takes either a #S18 or a #S2.

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1451272O/pps-2-0-spray-cup-system-part-number-reference-guide.pdf
Looks like unless you have a Fuji G-XPC gun. That one looks to take the 26110 #S24 adapter.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2018, 11:27 AM »
I'm surprised 3M doesn't offer an adapter for the Graco handheld spray guns.  [sad]

Especially as they are both Minnesota based companies.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 11:29 AM by Cheese »

Offline Dick Mahany

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2018, 11:40 AM »
I've held off investing in the 3M PPS wondering if it is a worthwhile enhancement.  Now maybe it's time to pull the trigger for my Fuji MM3 / T75 gun.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 11:59 AM by Dick Mahany »

Offline ben_r_

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2018, 12:22 PM »
I've held off investing in the 3M PPS wondering if it is a worthwhile enhancement.  Now maybe it's time to pull the trigger for my Fuji MM3 / T75 gun.
From everything Ive ever read or heard the Series 1 was definitely worth it, which was why I jumped on it. After doing a bit of research on this Series 2.0, it doesnt look like the parts are all available yet. Just some quick google searches didnt show any resellers selling the parts.
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Offline jparker

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2018, 04:33 PM »
I reached out to 3M Customer Service and I was told that they plan to release an H/O cup but that no release date has been set.

Offline koenbro

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2018, 12:45 AM »
The PPS system is definitely worth it. Swap out finishes easily with much less cleaning. Will never go back.


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Offline fnhanks

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2019, 03:11 PM »
Has anyone heard any more here? Want to get the PPS system for my Q5 but with the 2.0 being out I’m hesitant.

Offline ddjeske

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2019, 02:49 PM »
Has anyone heard any more here? Want to get the PPS system for my Q5 but with the 2.0 being out I’m hesitant.

I just ordered and received the 2.0 22 oz H/O cup
(https://www.rshughes.com/p/3M-850-Ml-Pressurized-Cup-26124/051131_26124/)

and the 2.0 22 oz kit

(https://www.amazon.com/3M-Spray-System-Micron-Filter/dp/B0070FK92W/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=3m+pps+2.0+26000&qid=1561747727&s=automotive&sr=1-1)

for my Q5 along with the adapter (s2c)

I plan on getting the 2.0 6 oz size also once the H/O cup is available for that size.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2019, 09:35 AM by ddjeske »

Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2019, 03:13 PM »
I just ordered and received the 2.0 22 oz H/O cup
(https://www.rshughes.com/p/3M-850-Ml-Pressurized-Cup-26124/051131_26124/)

and the 2.0 22 oz kit

(https://www.amazon.com/3M-Spray-System-Micron-Filter/dp/B0070FK92W/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=3m+pps+2.0+26000&qid=1561747727&s=automotive&sr=1-1)

for my Q5 along with the adapter (s2c)

I plan on getting the 2.0 13.5 oz size also once the H/O cup is available for that size, which should be soon (since I have some inside information....)

I have the original system - was thinking of upgrading until I saw these prices!

Offline ddjeske

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2019, 03:23 PM »
I bought my Q5 late last year and held off on getting v1, knowing 2.0 was going to be coming.

Offline Cyisone01

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2019, 06:18 PM »
I was looking at the 3M PPS 2.0 - does it work with the fuji guns?  I have the Q5 with the T70 and T75g.  I am not sure what I should be ordering.  I contacted Fuji and they told me the series 2.0 was not compatible but from your comments above it may be?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 06:25 PM by Cyisone01 »

Offline Jackarcher

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2019, 02:39 PM »
In direct reference to the T75G, Speaking with a 3m rep they have advised me that the 650ml (22oz) pressure cup for the PPS 2.0 system is part number 26124. It will officially be release in September 2019.  They did suggest I call retailers to see if they have them in stock now, but I haven’t had luck as yet. I’m in the US, not sure what the timing is elsewhere.

I have seen sites advertising the cups for sale, but I’m not familiar with the sites I’ve seen them for sale on.  I am curious to see how the price compares to these sites once it’s officially released and more widely available.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2019, 02:58 PM by Jackarcher »

Offline ddjeske

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2019, 10:27 AM »
I bought my 2.0 (28oz) pressurized cup from R.S. Hughes.  Came fairly quick, quicker than they quoted me.

https://www.rshughes.com/p/3M-850-Ml-Pressurized-Cup-26124/051131_26124/
« Last Edit: September 27, 2019, 09:27 AM by ddjeske »

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2019, 09:30 AM »
Any further information on the 2.0 and Fuji release availability?

By the way the lid and liner kit @ddjeske linked to #26000 is for their 200 micron filters (white). I'll be doing waterborne so I believe I'll need #26301 per https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1451272O/pps-2-0-spray-cup-system-part-number-reference-guide.pdf

as well as #26003 S2C adapter for the T75G gun and #26124 H/O 28oz cup 2.0.

Anything I'm missing?

Edit: I called Fuji and they won't have the new system to play with until later this year. Then I called 3M and ended up with a very friendly and knowledgeable woman. She said the H/O 2.0 cup is currently available in 6oz and 28oz. She strongly recommended not using the 22oz liners I linked above in the 28oz cup as they may not be properly supported and if you're using a heavier paint for example it could cause the liner to crack. She mentioned they were told there are manufacturing issues on the H/O cups and to expect stock late September but if I can find one there are no known design changes just that 'something' caused a delay in manufacturing. So for me using the T75G:

#26003 S2C adapter
#26325 28oz lids and liners
#26124 28oz H/O cup
« Last Edit: September 20, 2019, 10:00 AM by DynaGlide »
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Offline eyago

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2019, 02:24 AM »
Found this thread via the Googles. I think I made the 3M PPS 2.0 non-HO work.

I have the 3M PPS 2.0 in 22oz and a Fuji Q5. I just did a test run with some sheathing tape to cover the side and a piece of a paint mixing cup I cut and bonded to the bottom to cover the hole in the bottom. I then made a hole in the piece I had cut and inserted the pressure tube (with barb/fitting) and closed the gap with putty.

I've only used it with water so far but it seemed like it worked. I'm going to a plastic fabrication shop on the weekend to get cleaner pieces made/attached and hopefully have a tube fitting built into it. Otherwise, I think I could make it work with a ballpoint pen as the fitting.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2019, 07:14 PM »
Got everything in and something ain't right. HO lid doesn't go over the liner lid. I found this out after setting up my spray area in the garage... [unsure]

Maybe this is why there system still isn't available
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Offline eyago

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2019, 02:49 AM »
I'm going to try to paint with this tomorrow morning. Latex paint with my Q5.

Pen cap, sheathing tape, strips of plastic for reinforcement on the side, circle of plastic on top, superglue bottle lid on top, and a pen cap...

I might use the 3D printer or laser cutter in the office to make a better version.

Offline krudawg

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2019, 12:42 AM »
Does anyone happen to know if the 3M PPS Series 2 is going to have a H/O cup that will work with Fuji?  3M lists Series 2 adapters for Fuji guns but I don’t see any H/O cups available.

Thanks
I haven't seen much in the PPS Series 2 but they seem to be coming on line slowly.  About a year ago I purchased a bunch on PPS 1 stuff for my Fuji MM4 with T75G gun.  I had never sprayed paint before and was a little timid about using the PPS for my very first spray job.  I used GF Milk Paint and finished with GF High Performance.  The paint job surprised me how good it turned out.  So I'm getting ready to paint my newly built MFT/Systainer Cart and will use the Series 1 - and shoot Milk Paint again.  I'm really hoping their claims about easier cleanup match my soon to be experience.
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2019, 08:31 AM »
I've had some time to play with the 2.0 system. What was confusing me is the lids come with their own retainers that have to be removed when using the H/O cups. Once that's done everything goes together easily and securely.

Having used the Fuji T75G as delivered with the gravity cup and now with the PPS I could never go back. It's so darn convenient. The part #'s I posted above hold true for what's needed to get going with the T75G gun for waterborne finishes that use the 125 micron blue filter.

Inventory should start to show up on more websites since we're into October. I already noticed hvlpsales.com has the kits available for Fuji.
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Offline krudawg

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2019, 10:46 PM »
Does anyone happen to know if the 3M PPS Series 2 is going to have a H/O cup that will work with Fuji?  3M lists Series 2 adapters for Fuji guns but I don’t see any H/O cups available.

Thanks
I haven't seen much in the PPS Series 2 but they seem to be coming on line slowly.  About a year ago I purchased a bunch on PPS 1 stuff for my Fuji MM4 with T75G gun.  I had never sprayed paint before and was a little timid about using the PPS for my very first spray job.  I used GF Milk Paint and finished with GF High Performance.  The paint job surprised me how good it turned out.  So I'm getting ready to paint my newly built MFT/Systainer Cart and will use the Series 1 - and shoot Milk Paint again.  I'm really hoping their claims about easier cleanup match my soon to be experience.
I painted my project with my Fuji MiniMite4 and for the first time, used the PPS (series 1)  I was very pleased with my experience except for the fact that I was using a very small HO Cup with my T75G gun.  It was too small for the job I was doing.  I went thru 4 liners and lids.  I've got a larger HO cup but for some reason did not use it.  I really like the system and yes, cleanup was a lot faster.
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2020, 10:10 AM »
Does anyone happen to know if the 3M PPS Series 2 is going to have a H/O cup that will work with Fuji?  3M lists Series 2 adapters for Fuji guns but I don’t see any H/O cups available.

Thanks
I haven't seen much in the PPS Series 2 but they seem to be coming on line slowly.  About a year ago I purchased a bunch on PPS 1 stuff for my Fuji MM4 with T75G gun.  I had never sprayed paint before and was a little timid about using the PPS for my very first spray job.  I used GF Milk Paint and finished with GF High Performance.  The paint job surprised me how good it turned out.  So I'm getting ready to paint my newly built MFT/Systainer Cart and will use the Series 1 - and shoot Milk Paint again.  I'm really hoping their claims about easier cleanup match my soon to be experience.
I painted my project with my Fuji MiniMite4 and for the first time, used the PPS (series 1)  I was very pleased with my experience except for the fact that I was using a very small HO Cup with my T75G gun.  It was too small for the job I was doing.  I went thru 4 liners and lids.  I've got a larger HO cup but for some reason did not use it.  I really like the system and yes, cleanup was a lot faster.

I've had the 1.0 system for some time now. I know this is a few months old but what do you mean by going through 4 liners/cups? Maybe I'm frugal (cheap) but when I'm finished with a job I find the liners/cups clean up quite easily.


Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2020, 11:07 AM »
Any further information on the 2.0 and Fuji release availability?

By the way the lid and liner kit @ddjeske linked to #26000 is for their 200 micron filters (white). I'll be doing waterborne so I believe I'll need #26301 per https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1451272O/pps-2-0-spray-cup-system-part-number-reference-guide.pdf

as well as #26003 S2C adapter for the T75G gun and #26124 H/O 28oz cup 2.0.

Anything I'm missing?

Edit: I called Fuji and they won't have the new system to play with until later this year. Then I called 3M and ended up with a very friendly and knowledgeable woman. She said the H/O 2.0 cup is currently available in 6oz and 28oz. She strongly recommended not using the 22oz liners I linked above in the 28oz cup as they may not be properly supported and if you're using a heavier paint for example it could cause the liner to crack. She mentioned they were told there are manufacturing issues on the H/O cups and to expect stock late September but if I can find one there are no known design changes just that 'something' caused a delay in manufacturing. So for me using the T75G:

#26003 S2C adapter
#26325 28oz lids and liners
#26124 28oz H/O cup

@DynaGlide  (and others) I'm just looking at the cost to change over from PPS 1.0 to PPS 2.0. I have the Fuji G-XPC gun so I need:

#26110 #S24 gun adapter
#26124 H/O Cup
#26325 125-micron lids/liners/plug/non-press cup (#26024 for 200-micron)

...why does the #26325 lid/liner/plug kit also have a non-pressure cup included? This makes this kit expensive plus I notice you can purchase lids in packs of 25 but liners only come in packs of 100. 100 is way too many for me.

I already have the 1.0 and have spare liners. Can someone confirm it looks like the 28 oz. liners are the same for the 1.0 and 2.0?

Thanks
Mike

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2020, 06:22 AM »
Any further information on the 2.0 and Fuji release availability?

By the way the lid and liner kit @ddjeske linked to #26000 is for their 200 micron filters (white). I'll be doing waterborne so I believe I'll need #26301 per https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/1451272O/pps-2-0-spray-cup-system-part-number-reference-guide.pdf

as well as #26003 S2C adapter for the T75G gun and #26124 H/O 28oz cup 2.0.

Anything I'm missing?

Edit: I called Fuji and they won't have the new system to play with until later this year. Then I called 3M and ended up with a very friendly and knowledgeable woman. She said the H/O 2.0 cup is currently available in 6oz and 28oz. She strongly recommended not using the 22oz liners I linked above in the 28oz cup as they may not be properly supported and if you're using a heavier paint for example it could cause the liner to crack. She mentioned they were told there are manufacturing issues on the H/O cups and to expect stock late September but if I can find one there are no known design changes just that 'something' caused a delay in manufacturing. So for me using the T75G:

#26003 S2C adapter
#26325 28oz lids and liners
#26124 28oz H/O cup

@DynaGlide  (and others) I'm just looking at the cost to change over from PPS 1.0 to PPS 2.0. I have the Fuji G-XPC gun so I need:

#26110 #S24 gun adapter
#26124 H/O Cup
#26325 125-micron lids/liners/plug/non-press cup (#26024 for 200-micron)

...why does the #26325 lid/liner/plug kit also have a non-pressure cup included? This makes this kit expensive plus I notice you can purchase lids in packs of 25 but liners only come in packs of 100. 100 is way too many for me.

I already have the 1.0 and have spare liners. Can someone confirm it looks like the 28 oz. liners are the same for the 1.0 and 2.0?

Thanks
Mike

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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2020, 08:58 AM »
Just thought I'd pass along a deal I found while shopping for some more 3M PPS 2.0 supplies. I wanted the smaller H/O cup and liners to complement the large cup which I already have. https://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.com/ has 3M PPS 2.0 parts for way, way cheaper than anywhere else I could find and free shipping if you hit a minimum $49. I've never heard of them but they are on Amazon and have good ratings. I checked out with PayPal just in case.

And in case anyone asks. .

3M 26121 13.5oz H/O Midi Cup
3M 26312 125 micron (Blue for waterborne finishes) lids/liners/plugs pack

This is for my Fuji MM5 T75G gun. I posted the proper adapter and pn's for the large kit in a previous post in this thread.

I hope this helps,
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2020, 10:32 AM »
@DynaGlide

Great find - saves me $100 if I get large pressurized cup and cup set for my Fuji. But unfortunately the adapter for my GXPC gun is currently OOS and they don't know when they will get more. I have the series 1.0 but only have a handful of cups left so may pull the trigger on this.

Mike

Offline craigsalisbury75

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2020, 10:34 AM »
cheers! just had a buddy in the US order me the s2c adaptor and a midi cup, hopefully it all comes through....seems we can get lids and liners in the UK but not the adaptors and h/o cups :/

Offline ben_r_

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2020, 11:46 AM »
@DynaGlide

Great find - saves me $100 if I get large pressurized cup and cup set for my Fuji. But unfortunately the adapter for my GXPC gun is currently OOS and they don't know when they will get more. I have the series 1.0 but only have a handful of cups left so may pull the trigger on this.

Mike
Can we no longer get the series 1.0 cups? I still have that version too.
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2020, 11:53 AM »
@DynaGlide

Great find - saves me $100 if I get large pressurized cup and cup set for my Fuji. But unfortunately the adapter for my GXPC gun is currently OOS and they don't know when they will get more. I have the series 1.0 but only have a handful of cups left so may pull the trigger on this.

Mike


Can we no longer get the series 1.0 cups? I still have that version too.

Don't know - didn't look - didn't mean to imply 1.0 is unavailable. All the issues I have had with the 1.0 seem to be addressed with the 2.0 so have decided to upgrade at this price point since I'm running low on disposables.

Offline ben_r_

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2020, 03:41 PM »
Nice! Just bought the 2.0 125 micron Mini Kit for $59 after tax! Boy that saved me a lot of money upgrading! Even found the adapter for my gun for $36 shipped on eBay! Not too bad!
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Offline tdwilli1

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2020, 10:54 AM »
Amazon still has the 1.0 cups at a competitive price with free shipping for prime.

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2020, 12:55 PM »
Just thought I'd pass along a deal I found while shopping for some more 3M PPS 2.0 supplies. I wanted the smaller H/O cup and liners to complement the large cup which I already have. https://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.com/ has 3M PPS 2.0 parts for way, way cheaper than anywhere else I could find and free shipping if you hit a minimum $49. I've never heard of them but they are on Amazon and have good ratings. I checked out with PayPal just in case.

And in case anyone asks. .

3M 26121 13.5oz H/O Midi Cup
3M 26312 125 micron (Blue for waterborne finishes) lids/liners/plugs pack

This is for my Fuji MM5 T75G gun. I posted the proper adapter and pn's for the large kit in a previous post in this thread.

I hope this helps,
Matt

Great deal.  I have the same gun, and now have the pps gear on it's way to me. :-)


Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2020, 11:23 AM »
Just thought I'd pass along a deal I found while shopping for some more 3M PPS 2.0 supplies. I wanted the smaller H/O cup and liners to complement the large cup which I already have. https://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.com/ has 3M PPS 2.0 parts for way, way cheaper than anywhere else I could find and free shipping if you hit a minimum $49. I've never heard of them but they are on Amazon and have good ratings. I checked out with PayPal just in case.

And in case anyone asks. .

3M 26121 13.5oz H/O Midi Cup
3M 26312 125 micron (Blue for waterborne finishes) lids/liners/plugs pack

This is for my Fuji MM5 T75G gun. I posted the proper adapter and pn's for the large kit in a previous post in this thread.

I hope this helps,
Matt

Just a heads up (currently trying to work this out) - I ordered the cup kit and high pressure cup. My delivery came yesterday and was missing the HP cup so I called and they said must be shipper fault. Someone else was to call me. No callback yet but I noticed I just received a refund for the HP cup - WHAT! I also notice they have jacked up the prices on these items now too.

Mike

UPDATE - got hold of them by phone and they do seem to be out of the HP cups so they gave me a refund. I need to call back, but, they say they will honor the price originally paid.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2020, 02:12 PM by Mike Goetzke »

Offline ben_r_

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2020, 01:58 PM »
Dang it looks like they DID raise the prices! Should have picked up the Midi setup with my Mini kit. Didnt realize they shared the same lids and it would have been nice to have both options for those prices.


Also, wanted to add, I got my Mini kit quickly and with everything that was supposed to be included. It was just the pre-boxed 3M setup and shipped in the 3M kit box.
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2020, 02:41 PM »
@Mike Goetzke Sorry it didn't work out for you. I got mine in without issue earlier in the week. Bummer that they raised the prices. Perhaps they were in fact too good to be true.
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2020, 02:51 PM »
@Mike Goetzke Sorry it didn't work out for you. I got mine in without issue earlier in the week. Bummer that they raised the prices. Perhaps they were in fact too good to be true.

@DynaGlide  I updated my post - they claim the large HP cup is out of stock and will honor the lower price if I call a certain rep..

Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2020, 08:03 PM »
@Mike Goetzke Sorry it didn't work out for you. I got mine in without issue earlier in the week. Bummer that they raised the prices. Perhaps they were in fact too good to be true.

@DynaGlide  I updated my post - they claim the large HP cup is out of stock and will honor the lower price if I call a certain rep..

@DynaGlide  Finally got the last piece of my puzzle - the H/O cup from National Tool.

Question: the lids come with a black plastic ring to lock to the standard cup. Looks like for the H/O cup you remove this black ring first? Correct?

Thanks

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2020, 09:24 PM »
@Mike Goetzke Sorry it didn't work out for you. I got mine in without issue earlier in the week. Bummer that they raised the prices. Perhaps they were in fact too good to be true.

@DynaGlide  I updated my post - they claim the large HP cup is out of stock and will honor the lower price if I call a certain rep..

@DynaGlide  Finally got the last piece of my puzzle - the H/O cup from National Tool.

Question: the lids come with a black plastic ring to lock to the standard cup. Looks like for the H/O cup you remove this black ring first? Correct?

Thanks

Yes. That threw me for a loop too
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2020, 08:37 AM »
One thing that surprised me when swapping to the Series 2.0 gun adapter on my Fuji G-XPC was the nipple between the gun and adapter was crusty inside  [eek].

I exclusively use waterborne finishes and clean the gun by running water and water/DNA. Thinking I need to remove the gun adapter to clean this nipple out in the future.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2020, 09:14 AM »
One thing that surprised me when swapping to the Series 2.0 gun adapter on my Fuji G-XPC was the nipple between the gun and adapter was crusty inside  [eek].

I exclusively use waterborne finishes and clean the gun by running water and water/DNA. Thinking I need to remove the gun adapter to clean this nipple out in the future.

@Mike Goetzke I for one do not like crusty nipples.
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2020, 10:49 PM »
I used my Series 2 system for the first time today. I spent about 11 hours spraying some cabinets with Target EM9300. I would say it was the best looking finish I have done. With my Series 1 system I usually had to thin the Target coating a bit and needed a 1.0mm needle set to get a decent finish but today was able to spray out of the can with the 1.4mm needle set.

Can’t believe it but on my first refill I forgot to relieve the pressure in the cup before removing the gun. All I can say is don’t do this!

Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #48 on: July 14, 2020, 08:40 AM »
Heads up to those upgrading from Series 1.0 H/O system.

While working on my first job with the Series 2.0 setup I noticed:

1) The Series 1.0 and 2.0 cup liners are the same.
2) The H/O cup is the same! ( only the screw on top is different )
3) Looks like using a Dremel would allow you to mod the Series 1.0 lid into Series 2.0. Almost looks like you could mod it in a way enabling use either Series 1.0 or Series 2.0 liner lids, although, the gun adapter is different. ( potential $70 savings )

Mike

Offline bigshaw929

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #49 on: July 14, 2020, 08:17 PM »
Question for all that have upgraded to the 2.0. What are the advantages? I have 5 spray guns set up with the 1.0 and am hesitant to upgrade and am hoping they are not discontinuing 1.0 supplies.

Thanks,
Bill


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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2020, 10:10 PM »
Question for all that have upgraded to the 2.0. What are the advantages? I have 5 spray guns set up with the 1.0 and am hesitant to upgrade and am hoping they are not discontinuing 1.0 supplies.

Thanks,
Bill


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@bigshaw929  Bill - watch the first video on post #6. They show 6 improvements. My Fuji gun uses a pressure assisted cup called H/O. With the H/O cup I think you only get 3 of the improvements (gun little easier to attach, much larger mesh filter area, and can stand partially used product lid side down). But, I think the larger mesh filter seemed to help the flow of the finish on my first attempt.

Good luck
Mike

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2020, 09:21 AM »
Question for all that have upgraded to the 2.0. What are the advantages? I have 5 spray guns set up with the 1.0 and am hesitant to upgrade and am hoping they are not discontinuing 1.0 supplies.

Thanks,
Bill


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@bigshaw929  Bill - watch the first video on post #6. They show 6 improvements. My Fuji gun uses a pressure assisted cup called H/O. With the H/O cup I think you only get 3 of the improvements (gun little easier to attach, much larger mesh filter area, and can stand partially used product lid side down). But, I think the larger mesh filter seemed to help the flow of the finish on my first attempt.

Good luck
Mike
Mike,
Thank you. I missed that somehow. Have you used it and think it’s worth upgrading?
Thanks,
Bil


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Offline ben_r_

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Re: 3M PPS Series 2 - Fuji
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2020, 10:54 AM »
Question for all that have upgraded to the 2.0. What are the advantages? I have 5 spray guns set up with the 1.0 and am hesitant to upgrade and am hoping they are not discontinuing 1.0 supplies.

Thanks,
Bill


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Advantages of the new system are on main page for it from 3M: LINK
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