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Offline richmass

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The new CMS Router Table
« on: August 23, 2012, 03:52 PM »
I have seen the announcements of the new Router Table.  As an owner of the OF2200, I was dismayed to see that it is not listed as working with this new table.  As I looked into it, I found out that it is because the switch attached to the table is rated at 15 amps and the OF2200 is rated at 16 amps.  I am surprised that Festool could not figure out how to put a 20 amp rated switch on the unit in order for the OF2200 owners to have access to this new system.  I have heard that the OF2200 would fit otherwise but can't be listed due to the amp issue.

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Offline Nick C

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 10:12 PM »
Disregarding the issue with the built-in switch, will the big router actually fit the table? If so, the user could simply do without the convenience of the switch, and plug in the router directly. Or just flout the whole system, and use the switch, trusting that the router will not actually pull more than 15A in practice.

Offline Kev

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2012, 03:45 AM »
Yet another reason to conver to 240v ... and Metric ... and proper English  [big grin]

Offline Tom Bellemare

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2012, 10:36 AM »
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'You mean JMB speak, east London, Cornwall, Kensington, Scot, Midlands?


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Offline Nick C

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2012, 11:04 AM »
The OF 2200 (plus dust collector) is really pushing the limit of a 120V circuit. A 20A circuit would be a real good idea. The CMS switch might not be rated for 20A. This does raise the question of why Festool does not offer a 240V OF 2200 in the US. My guess is that a 240V tool would not be preferred by contractors who must get by with the power that is available at the job site. While true in most cases, I think the OF 2200 is an exception. Site work for which the OF2200 is needed is rather specialized, justifying the inconvenience of connecting to a 240V outlet. A good example is flooring and staircase work. Note that for this work the availability of 240V power is assumed, even in the US, since it is needed for the big floor sanders. There is a 240V router available in the US, made by Mafell, but I suspect it's use is quite specialized.

Offline fdengel

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2012, 03:06 PM »
I would think it would be most applicable to have the OF2200 on a table since it can theoretically handle the bigger heavier jobs that are largely considered unsafe to do with a router that is not in a table.

I wonder how hard it would be to upgrade the switch?

Offline andvari

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2012, 03:44 PM »
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Tom

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Offline greg mann

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2012, 06:39 PM »
The OF 2200 (plus dust collector) is really pushing the limit of a 120V circuit. A 20A circuit would be a real good idea. The CMS switch might not be rated for 20A. This does raise the question of why Festool does not offer a 240V OF 2200 in the US. My guess is that a 240V tool would not be preferred by contractors who must get by with the power that is available at the job site. While true in most cases, I think the OF 2200 is an exception. Site work for which the OF2200 is needed is rather specialized, justifying the inconvenience of connecting to a 240V outlet. A good example is flooring and staircase work. Note that for this work the availability of 240V power is assumed, even in the US, since it is needed for the big floor sanders. There is a 240V router available in the US, made by Mafell, but I suspect it's use is quite specialized.

Maybe Rick C. Can weigh in but I do not believe a 2200 would draw significantly more amperage, if any, than a 1400 doing the same work.
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2012, 08:30 PM »
If I recall correctly no tool in the U.S. can be marketed as a portable tool if it has a voltage rating higher than 120 or an amperage rating higher than 15.

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 11:12 AM »
Maybe Rick C. Can weigh in but I do not believe a 2200 would draw significantly more amperage, if any, than a 1400 doing the same work.

Generally speaking this is a correct statement. An OF1400 will draw 1400 watts just before stalling. The OF2200 will draw 2200 watts just before stalling. With an appropriate bit under similar conditions, the OF1010, OF1400 and OF2200 could well be drawing similar wattages.

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Re: The new CMS Router Table
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 11:37 AM »
The OF1400 will draw ~11.7 amps through the CMS switch at full load.  The OF2200 will draw ~18.3 amps through the switch at full load.
As you say using the same router bit to make the same cuts both routers would draw a similar load through the switch.  I'm not sure I see the advantage of using the 2200 instead of the 1400 in that scenario unless you have a 2200 but no 1400.  The real (2200) advantage would be larger bits & heavier cuts but then you would be drawing more amps through the switch than it's rated for and voiding the warranty.








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