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Offline mino

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Re: CT-SYS but bigger
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2021, 07:24 PM »
A CTL Mini "module" in the size of a SYS 2-ish is certainly doable with the same mechanicals/electronics as a Mini.

The a "bucket" module which can be SYS -ish height can go along it. The probably a SYS4-size "big" bucket.
What will be interesting is cyclone option that would just "plug" atop the vac unit.

Wheels we already have - the SYS-RB/CART.

The only problem ?
We just invented a replacement for the Mini/Midi line which will be + modular - heavier - bigger. Ergh.
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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: CT-SYS but bigger
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2021, 07:32 PM »
I think just an expansion of the CT-SYS.  Basically just a new bin system for it. And a gen II for the cyclone.

Might be bigger/heavier than other solutions, but just like systainers take up more volume than the tool laying out, it's about the ability to pack it all away.   They current CTs have the basic problem of "where do you put them", since you can't just toss them in you piles of systainers.
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Offline mino

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Re: CT-SYS but bigger
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2021, 07:42 PM »
Quote from: DeformedTree on March 01, 2021, 07:32 PM
I think just an expansion of the CT-SYS.  Basically just a new bin system for it. And a gen II for the cyclone.
The only problem I see that a cyclone needs top-side air intake while the CT-SYS has a top-side air intake too.

I guess the first step is for a CT SYS R to have a bottom air intake so it can be used placed atop a cyclone without connecting hoses.

Not sure how to handle the hose garage on bottom challenge though.

Maybe a side-air intake and a "hard plastic accessory" so it can connect to existing CT-VA directly. Yeah. The first problem is we need a side intake. And power regulation. Eh.
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Offline Coen

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Re: CT-SYS but bigger
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2021, 09:47 AM »
A Cyclone with the CT-Sys... I think you are missing the target market of the CT-Sys.
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Offline JeremyH.

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Re: CT-SYS but bigger
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2021, 10:06 AM »
From a tool storage perspective it makes more sense to have to find a place for the systainer wheels than it does a CT vacuum. Think in a work van or a wall of systainers.

From a marketing perspective people are nerdy and like to mix and match stuff...
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Offline mino

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Re: CT-SYS but bigger
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2021, 10:50 AM »
Quote from: Coen on March 06, 2021, 09:47 AM
A Cyclone with the CT-Sys... I think you are missing the target market of the CT-Sys.
Well, not really. The discussion was about expanding a CT-SYS target market. I have seen Peter Parfit use one and I know how (little) dust gets through the cyclone.

Going onsite with a CT-SYS + CT-VA + cart combo makes a lot of sense.
You can use the CT-SYS2 as a primary vac with the cyclone (not really bigger than a normal CT) AND be able to disconnect it for that special work on a ladder here and there AND get excellent economy out of it.

For an install job, you would leave the CT-VA at home and put systainers on the stack instead.

For a quickie, you would take just the CT-SYS2 with a short hose, no accessories.

Having the extraction port on the side is all that would be needed and it would not impact/affect the current use cases. It would just add more scenarios.
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Offline Coen

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Re: CT-SYS but bigger
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2021, 12:01 PM »
I have yet to see anyone taking their Cyclone in the van to a job site...
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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: CT-SYS but bigger
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2021, 12:22 PM »
Quote from: Coen on March 06, 2021, 09:47 AM
A Cyclone with the CT-Sys... I think you are missing the target market of the CT-Sys.

It's exactly the target market. The CT-Sys exist to be a continuation of everything in the Systainer Format. Same for the Cyclone. The cyclone had  the mistake of having the top and bottom not be connected, Festool addressed this some with the suspenders, but a full on latched version would be better.

The 2 are a natural fit for each other.
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