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Offline StevoWevo

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1010 router
« on: February 23, 2020, 03:00 AM »
I like the router but FT needs a way to make the chip deflector and base plates tool free quick detach attach. Running screws in and out of the casting is just a not a good idea IMHO.

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Offline SRSemenza

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2020, 09:58 AM »
They did .........................  it's called the 1400.   [big grin]

   Sorry, couldn't resist.  [tongue]

Seth

Offline rmhinden

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2020, 12:17 PM »
I like the router but FT needs a way to make the chip deflector and base plates tool free quick detach attach. Running screws in and out of the casting is just a not a good idea IMHO.

Fair point, but at least it allows for a template insert to be centered, unlike the 1400.

Bob

Offline StevoWevo

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2020, 08:01 PM »
They did .........................  it's called the 1400.   [big grin]

   Sorry, couldn't resist.  [tongue]

Seth

Grrrrrr. That’s another $600+++++ 😂

Offline mrB

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2020, 07:49 PM »
I agree! I think it’sa shame that festool being a relatively small company seems to mean barely any updated products. An LED would also be cool as has been mentioned before. But it took festool long enough to add an LED to the £450 t18 drill, despite it being a very standard feature on the competition. . . Then they put it where I’m pretty sure the index finger was designed to go (try it, and consider Festool’s belief in c-drills, that everyone hold’s ‘incorrectly’)
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline Cheese

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2020, 10:19 PM »
Running screws in and out of the casting is just a not a good idea IMHO.

You're right... [smile]  It's always amazed me why Festool seems incapable of incrementally improving the quality of their products. It seems like once the product is released, the product needs to soldier on for years and years before any improvements are made. Ya, they're a small manufacturer and ya they may change the type of Systainer the product is delivered in but the product itself goes into a state of dormancy and the product with its flaws produced in 2005 is the same product produced in 2020 with the very same flaws. Why is that?

I own both Norton & Bultaco motorcycles manufactured circa 1970's. They all have aluminum castings and most (British & Spanish to put things into perspective) of the tapped holes have factory Helicoil inserts...these things were invented in the 50's so why not adapt them to a fragile aluminum casting manufactured in the 90's?

Having designed equipment for over 40 years, Festool could easily approach Helicoil and request an RFQ for 20,000+ Helicoils that would fit the 1010 router. A price would be agreed upon and then Festool would need to establish the manufacturing costs to implement the improvement. Once into production, I'll guarantee the cost to Festool will be less than $2 per router. This really is a no-brainer.

Interestingly enough...the DF 500 has Helicoil inserts in the base so this is not an unknown/foreign technology for Festool.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2020, 09:17 AM by Cheese »

Offline xedos

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2020, 07:01 PM »
Festool only seems to make 'cough' improvements  only when they are seemingly forced to.

TS55 safety issues
Kapex motor
Vecturo plug-it going away
The New Impact

To be fair, the bluetooth on the CTs was clever and the 2nd spine on the guide rails was an improvement.


Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2020, 07:35 PM »
Festool only seems to make 'cough' improvements  only when they are seemingly forced to.

TS55 safety issues
Kapex motor
Vecturo plug-it going away
The New Impact

To be fair, the bluetooth on the CTs was clever and the 2nd spine on the guide rails was an improvement.

German brands usually are slow, very slow. They also believe that when first designed a product they have done it impeccably. And they often do, but aftermarket isn’t something they are hugely aware of. Therefore their biggest limitations are the ignorance of consumer feedback. I’m actually surprised that they can hold their market when there’s seemingly a large amount of resourceful competitors out there. Their strength lies in focusing on user features and user friendliness, along with some ingenuity and usually high quality.
Combine that with what Festool hopefully continues - make their tools a part of a system.
I guess FT’s drive towards a small segment of the market makes them less exposed for competitors interest - “Let FT do what they do, and we’ll handle the rest” - “Altough we’re watching” [wink]
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Offline xedos

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2020, 11:33 PM »
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Combine that with what Festool hopefully continues - make their tools a part of a system.

Increasingly they aren't doing a very good job of this.  At least from an end user standpoint. 

Their "system" is more in name these days.  There are two 12v battery "systems"  Some tools don't have plug-it. Some don't have or never got the clean-tec fitting.  The new systainer "system" really isn't all that compatible with the the current one either. 

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I guess FT’s drive towards a small segment of the market makes them less exposed for competitors interest - “Let FT do what they do, and we’ll handle the rest”

And what segment would that be ?  Seems to me they have competition all around.  The big players have everything except an edgebander as far as I can see.

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2020, 05:50 PM »
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Combine that with what Festool hopefully continues - make their tools a part of a system.

Increasingly they aren't doing a very good job of this.  At least from an end user standpoint. 

Their "system" is more in name these days.  There are two 12v battery "systems"  Some tools don't have plug-it. Some don't have or never got the clean-tec fitting.  The new systainer "system" really isn't all that compatible with the the current one either. 

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I guess FT’s drive towards a small segment of the market makes them less exposed for competitors interest - “Let FT do what they do, and we’ll handle the rest”

And what segment would that be ?  Seems to me they have competition all around.  The big players have everything except an edgebander as far as I can see.

Naah, they haven’t really thought enough of their battery/fit strategy, seems odd.
I know some of their tools demands higher current than what the PlugIt connector allows.  So they will be equipped with fixed wire. (Ie: OF2200)

I think their “finesse” within portability is what their narrow segment is. Features competitors doesn’t really have. Their CS pull saws (I spoken to many professionals that has either a CS 50 or CS 70 as permanent standard tool in their vans, and they wouldn’t part or be without them) HK saws, routers with their useful accessories (for those who see the benefit), drills who are favoured by electricians and fitters. Dust collectors are of course a strength of FT.

It will be interesting to see how many of those who work on sites who will buy the TKS 80 saw.. it is big compared to CS 70, with only 10mm more capacity, and a hefty weight of nearly 40kg. To shift this saw in and out of their vans, parting their CS 50/70? The Saw Stop is the only new feature of this saw, with largely added bulk, weight and more importantly missing the pull saw feature.
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: 1010 router
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2020, 06:07 PM »
No plug-it connector for the RAS 115.  Seems like an easy fix?