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Offline johnsayen

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Yet another CMS vs thread
« on: February 12, 2021, 08:43 AM »
Hi all,

Currently in the middle of the age of struggle of fear of buying the wrong product. I've recently ordered a jessem ultimate ultimate excel ii package + the miter slide + a milwaukee 5625-20 to go in it and while I've been patiently waiting for the backorder I made the mistake of watching Sedge use the CMS several times. That of course led me to start reading threads on here about it and now I'm sitting here on the fence if I've made the right decision. Cost wise it's about a wash, it's going to live in a dedicated shop, and at this point I'm fairly dunked in the festool pond.

The two main things that are attracting me toward the CMS-GE are that it's at 900mm and I have two MFT already, and that hold-down/guard/built-in featherboard thing.

The Jessem comes with their clear cut stock guides which I think should be as effective and the miter-slide should be similar to the CMS sliding table?

Not sure what I'm looking for here other than more opinions, maybe I'll get swayed one way or another, I haven't touched either of their products in person and it'll be my first router table.

Thank you.

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Offline Alex

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2021, 08:46 AM »
Sorry, the CMS is not the best router table at all just because it is Festool.

Your Jessem is a much nicer table, so there is no reason to change your mind.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2021, 10:30 AM »
If it's going to live in a dedicated shop and you have enough room, then what you ordered will be perfectly fine and in some cases superior to the Festool setup. You'll also love the Milwaukee 5625...a really nice powerful router, I have one in a table.

The really compelling reason to own a CMS is if you need to be portable or you don't have the room to keep it set up. I purchased a CMS because I enjoy working outside in the spring/summer/fall. Right now I'm using the Milwaukee 5625 in the basement.  [smile]

Offline Gerald_D

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2021, 11:16 AM »
If it's going to live in a dedicated shop and you have enough room, then what you ordered will be perfectly fine and in some cases superior to the Festool setup. You'll also love the Milwaukee 5625...a really nice powerful router, I have one in a table.

The really compelling reason to own a CMS is if you need to be portable or you don't have the room to keep it set up. I purchased a CMS because I enjoy working outside in the spring/summer/fall. Right now I'm using the Milwaukee 5625 in the basement.  [smile]

My compelling reason for the CMS in a dedicated shop is actually for the router- I used to have the OF1400 in my CMS and have had the 2200 in there for several months- the level of vibration is so much lower than the PC7518s (I have 2 and both in Jessem lifts) that I find myself not wanting to use them.  How’s the vibration on the Milw 5625?  Maybe I should replace the PCs.

Regards,
Gerald
Gerald
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2021, 11:20 AM »
My reason for the CMS-GE over alternatives is. .I got it for $900 brand new from Uncle Bob and he took me out to breakfast to boot  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

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Offline infer

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2021, 01:22 PM »
I am sure you have nothing to gain from a CMS OF table other than portability. Jessem makes great stuff.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2021, 01:51 PM »
Well, a CMS works with festool routers, and other tables don't work with them.  The main reason for the festool routers is the dust collection.  For me, that is one of the main reasons I see for a CMS like setup (beyond not being a kludge of various companies parts).

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2021, 03:53 PM »
I did seriously consider Jessem, they seem to have really nice router accessories.
I did end up with a CMS table, I actually bought my OF-1400 with a GE CMS-OF. I found that the CMS-OF had the kind of compactness i needed. Dust collection was another win for the Festool solution, which frankly is awesome.

The Jessem you have ordered is really, really nice.. And, Jessem makes a compatible lift for Festool routers if you want. Ideally I wouldn’t want the OF-1400 hanging under the table. But it’s not a large scale project to release it from the table either. Festool did a good job in that department, making it fairly easy to switch between handheld and mounted in the OF table.
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Offline Svar

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2021, 04:24 PM »
Well, a CMS works with festool routers, and other tables don't work with them.
Festool routers work with any table just fine. If you want a dedicated lift (which CMS does not have anyway), your options are limited to Jessem (contemplated by the OP), which has lift for plunge routers.
The main reason for the festool routers is the dust collection.  For me, that is one of the main reasons I see for a CMS like setup (beyond not being a kludge of various companies parts).
I'll admit OF2200 dust collection is unique due to clever enclosure and motor vent placement. Others FT OFs are on par with most modern professional brands in this respect. FT dust collection was unparalleled 20 years ago, but others have mostly caught up since then.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2021, 04:26 PM by Svar »

Offline johnsayen

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2021, 05:08 PM »
Ugh, not sure what I was expecting but I sure got it - sounds about 6 in one half a dozen in the other. Thanks for all the feedback thus far, I sincerely appreciate it.

Offline Coen

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Re: Yet another CMS vs thread
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2021, 07:06 AM »
In Europe the CMS is no longer sold... so think twice before you buy into a platform you might not be able to extend.

Once it became known it would no longer be sold even all the bandsawmodules (that definitely didn't sell well) immediately sold out.

Yes I do have the CMS-OF.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2021, 07:09 AM by Coen »