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Offline bwehman

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Wife wants a CT for household use?
« on: March 13, 2023, 07:59 PM »
Hey all! My wife is over the cordless Dyson we have (battery life is terrible) and was looking at canister vacs, and then asked me what I thought about getting a Festool CT for dedicated home use instead. I thought about it, and now with all the cordless options and new cleaning kits, there’s a lot of directions we could go.

Anybody else use one for home use, i.e. vacuuming deeper carpets, dusting blinds and surfaces, quick spill clean ups, etc? We have a Roomba for general floor cleaning.

First thought was a CT 15, but I think having the systainer dock on top would be nice, as well as the Bluetooth to make it all that much easier for her. So I’m thinking corded CT Mini? The cordless one looks enticing too, but I think we’re looking for maybe the sustained power of corded? IDK. Open to opinions on this.

For cleaning attachments, has anyone used that turbo brush attachment for carpets? Any good?

For context, I already have a couple CT26s, a 15, and a CT SYS, and the workshop cleaning kit. She’s used them before in a pinch and loved how powerful they were. The variable suction was a cool feature for her too for dusting and all.

Anyway, enough rambling. Thoughts and opinions?

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Offline usernumber1

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2023, 08:07 PM »
we have a miele canister with hepa or carbon filter which is lighter, quieter, has a powered turbo brush with a light which festool can't touch
anti static hose, wand control, no dust when changing bags, etc etc

that said if i have the ct26 around, it vacuums just the same except when it comes to carpets. although sometimes the festool wand tends to fall apart since it's held by friction only, in 5 pieces

oh and the cord is a pain compared to miele which has the auto-retractable which is so smooth
i was thinking of replacing the ct26 cord with a softer (SJOOW?) but the prices are kinda high now
« Last Edit: March 13, 2023, 08:11 PM by usernumber1 »

Offline SilviaS7

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2023, 08:17 PM »
I only have one dust extractor, the CT 15 but upgraded with a braided hose and hose garage, and the cheaper cleaning kit.  I use it all the time as my primary vacuum for the house, it's just so good at picking up all the small particles and pet hair.

Offline woodferret

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2023, 08:21 PM »
The carpet head with the new 36 hose moves like garbage.
I have an older tradesman with the dual swivel head that's a joy to use.  Not as much range as the Miele's, but it doesn't lift up when you get the boom arm close to you.  Maybe if you're 5ft tall the angle never gets there.  I'm 6ft.

The new turbo brush TKB II seems like it shares the same 1-axis angled swivel design as all the new heads - so I'd be wary of them without trying it in person.

Maybe one day Festool will realize how junk the new design is, even if it is cheaper/easier to produce.

Offline Chainring

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2023, 08:54 PM »
We're a household of way too many vacuums.

Festool: CT 48 AC, CT MIDI I
Miele C2 Electro+ with SEB 228 power head
Riccar 1500p
Kirby G5 with carpet shampooing kit

Roborock S7MaxV Ultra

I've been toying with the idea of selling the Miele, Riccar and Kirby and replacing them with a CT MIDI I for the house. I find that the canister vacs do the job well enough, but the short hoses on them are a pain when doing any cleanup/dusting at height. Plus, that shorter hose makes it bang into my heels way more than I like.

I already have the cleaning kit with metal wands, plus the turbine powered brush. We don't have much in the way of carpets and with the robot vac, the Miele and Riccar barely see any use. The Kirby is kept because the shampooing attachment works well, but again we don't have many carpets. Lots of hard wood and some linoleum, with area rugs for covering. I'd rather have all Festool and be done with it.

Offline squall_line

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2023, 10:54 PM »
Isn't at least one of the corded CT-MINI-I/MIDI-I's being discontinued now that the cordless units are coming to the states?

I would avoid the cordless units for household use; my average vacuum time for the limited amount of carpet in our house exceeds the max run time with anything other than a pair of 8.0 Ah batteries.  Once you're putting out that kind of coin, you might as well get a Miele or something similar.

The Bluetooth on my corded MIDI-I makes it so much more useful around the house than the OG MINI without Bluetooth, so the MINI stays in the garage with the tools (and the BT-enabled CT-26).

Offline luvmytoolz

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2023, 11:08 PM »
I got my wife a midi back in 2010 as she was destroying a vacuum roughly every 12-14 months Among others over the years we went through Godfrey uprights, Hoover upright, a reasonably expensive Miele which lasted 13 months, and finally a top of the line Bosch which also lasted barely more than a year. She used my old SR5E dusty initially and didn't mind it so the midi was perfect for her.

Apart from the common mains cable clamp problem with these units, it has been working flawlessly the last 13 years. I ended up buying the long life bag for it when the bags ran out.

This is literally the first vacuum she hasn't been able to destroy, so we've been very happy with it! I hate to think how much I've spent on other vacs that died over the years, always that little bit out of warranty!

If your wife is anything like mine the corded version would be best.

Offline bwehman

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2023, 11:21 PM »
we have a miele canister with hepa or carbon filter which is lighter, quieter, has a powered turbo brush with a light which festool can't touch
anti static hose, wand control, no dust when changing bags, etc etc

that said if i have the ct26 around, it vacuums just the same except when it comes to carpets. although sometimes the festool wand tends to fall apart since it's held by friction only, in 5 pieces

oh and the cord is a pain compared to miele which has the auto-retractable which is so smooth
i was thinking of replacing the ct26 cord with a softer (SJOOW?) but the prices are kinda high now

Ha, how coincidental - the vacuum we're waffling between is that Miele canister vac. I think a CT 15 + cleaning kit is about the same price. I think a Mini tips the Festool over the Miele price. We're unsure. You like the Miele though it sounds like yeah?

Offline jonnyrocket

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2023, 12:10 AM »
Another CT-MIDI user for my house vacuum. Prior to the midi, I have a small rigid rolling shop vac that we were using with a 1 piece aluminum wand from Amazon. Once I got the midi, I purchased a cleaning set with the new 36mm braided hose and use the hose with the midi and the wand from Amazon. The rest of the cleaning set stays in the shop. I recently purchased the turbo head and it works well on hard floors. I have used it on some commercial style carpet with no pile and it works OK but the turbo gets bogged down quickly when using it on the carpet. The turno head doesn’t work on the 1 piece wand, I use the steel tubes from my cleaning set for the turbo head and as mentioned it doesn’t maneuver as well as some other wands and heads out there.

But absolutely no qualms about the CT for household use.

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2023, 12:37 AM »
I was just thinking how absurd it is how many vacs we have in our house.
My wife has 2 Miele canisters and a Dyson stick vacuum.
I have 2 Festool CT's, an old Fein Turbo, and a Makita cordless.
My wife uses the Dyson more because of convenience, but for better pickups the Miele is better, and as strong as the Festools. Much handier to carry, and as noted the cord spools up with a touch of the reel control.
We've got allergies, so a HEPA filter has been a must-have for years for us.
Für uns...ist das Beste gerade gut genug!

Offline Chainring

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2023, 12:52 AM »
@squall_line Yep, the CT MINI I is already gone.

I was looking at my local dealer which had one a month or so ago, and it either sold or went back to Festool. Thinking about it, it'd have probably been silly to get it since there's barely any height difference AND it uses the same bags.

Offline bobtskutter

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2023, 04:13 AM »
Just to keep things balanced, I bought myself a Sebo upright vacuum to replace a broken Dyson DC14 upright.  It's awful.  The wheels on the back get stuck on door thresholds and even the cable.  Changing the bag blows the dust in your face.  It's only good point is it can reach under chairs / sofas / beds.
I also bought a Miele drag around machine about 20yrs ago.  It's great for hard floors and short pile carpet.
I also bought a Numatic wet and dry commercial vacuum, that's great for cleaning up all those really messy spills, unblocking drains, draining radiators etc.
I also bought a Numatic commercial workshop vacuum cleaner, it's a pretty good space heater!
Come on people, don't use your wives as an excuse to buy vacuum cleaners   ;)  If you want a Festool vacuum, go and buy one  ;D

Regards
Bob

Offline kevinculle

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2023, 07:41 AM »
My CT-26 is a useful tool in the shop but I would not want to drag that heavy, bulky boat anchor around the house and particularly up and down stairs.

Offline Packard

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2023, 08:01 AM »
For performance and convenience, nothing beats a central vacuum system.

Online NiteWalkerGR

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2023, 11:45 AM »
Contemplating this myself. Our old hoover is on its last leg and if I were to get another midi I for the house it wouldn't be a huge investment since I already have the cleaning set and a bunch of bags.

Offline bwehman

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2023, 12:00 PM »
I wonder why they killed off the Mini. That was such a great little vac.

Online Cheese

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2023, 12:05 PM »
Oh boy...oranges & apples.  [smile]

We have an older Miele Capricorn for upstairs and a newer Miele C3 for downstairs. Both are HEPA, both have Electro brushes and both have the controls built into the handle. There's nothing easier to use on rugs, carpet or wooden floors as the Electro brushes are height adjustable and incorporate LED lighting for use under a couch or a table. Each vacuum also has a "bag full" indicator which is really a nice touch. The automatic cord (25') rewind works flawlessly for the life of the vacuum. They're quiet and have adjustable suction and come with a telescopic wand. They also come with an upholstery nozzle, crevice nozzle & a dusting brush that all store on the vac under a cover. Nice stuff...

Now for the not so nice stuff...the hose on the Miele is about 5' long so to reach anything higher, the entire vacuum must be elevated. In a sunroom, we have a G-scale train that runs at the 9' level and the blades of a ceiling fan are at the 10' level. So to clean either of these items, the Miele has to be hauled up a 6 foot step ladder and perched precariously on the top step...not fun.

That's the reason you really need both a Miele and a Festool vac.  [smile]  The Festool Mini sits on the floor while I crawl up the ladder with the 15' hose in my hand. For cobwebs in the corners of the ceiling the Festool long wand with a brush takes care of that easily. The Festool Turbo Suction head works well on smooth floors or short napped throw rugs. As the nap becomes longer, the turbo brush starts to bog down and the air inlet on the handle piece needs to be opened up to allow more air to pass through and thus spin the turbo brush. However, as more air is bypassed, the suction is also reduced. That's the reason the Miele Electro brush is height adjustable and works so well because the amount of vacuum is constant at every height.

Here's an example of how well the Festool Turbo Suction head works on smooth floors, this is a single, normal speed pass through the cat litter. I keep this in the basement all of the time attached to a 36 mm hose while the Mini lives between the 1st floor & the 2nd floor.





« Last Edit: March 14, 2023, 12:08 PM by Cheese »

Offline woodferret

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2023, 12:22 PM »
@Cheese is the the current TKB II?  If so, I'm glad they kept the pivot.

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2023, 12:24 PM »
I really like the suction available from my Mini for doing household cleaning, as well as the additional hose length.  The large bags are wonderful, especially when one has large, hairy, shedding dogs.  The one part I have come to detest is the air-turbine brush head.  First, it jams up with dog hair and is a royal PITA to tear down for cleaning.  On loose fabric, like dog beds, the air-turbine brush stops on a dime and refuses to turn until the fabric is pulled taut.  All that said, the vac itself does a wonderful job of cleaning, until the bag gets full of dog hair. 
- Willy -

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  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

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Online Cheese

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2023, 12:41 PM »
@Cheese is the the current TKB II?  If so, I'm glad they kept the pivot.

Yes it is...203809...it's made by Wessel which is about half the price of the Festool version. Here's the Wessel information if someone wants to save some $$. I found this info only after I purchased the Festool item.  [sad]






Offline Packard

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2023, 12:45 PM »
I built a small screened in room about 4’ x 4’ using two storm doors (one fixed, the second operable) tucked in the corner against the house.  I added a kitty pass through form the sun room to that screened room.

I put the kitty litter box in that screened in room.  After that, I got no more kitty litter indoors and no kitty litter fragrance.

I changed the litter while out on the deck, so none of the clay was ever brought int the house.

There were a couple of shelves for the cat to lounge on when the temperature was comfortable.

In the winter I put in the glass inserts.

Both cats are gone now.  I removed the storm door enclosure.  All that remains is the kitty door.

I will cover the door with wainscoting soon.  I will have to figure out a patch for the siding I cut.

Better than cleaning litter is never to have indoors at all.

Note:  My property backs up against a nature preserve.  One entire summer a pair of red tailed hawks nested in my backyard.  Outdoor cats disappear in my neighborhood so letting the out means feeding the wildlife.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2023, 12:47 PM by Packard »

Offline Chainring

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2023, 03:33 PM »
@Cheese

That Wessel-Werk TK286 will not go directly on the Festool 36mm hose nor on the cleaning wands. There's a pretty cheap Bosch adapter that works perfectly. How well it stays in while doing the cleaning, I don't know.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AV77S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?psc=1

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2023, 04:05 PM »
@Cheese

That Wessel-Werk TK286 will not go directly on the Festool 36mm hose nor on the cleaning wands. There's a pretty cheap Bosch adapter that works perfectly. How well it stays in while doing the cleaning, I don't know.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AV77S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?psc=1

You can also use a 1-1/4" flexible coupling (plumbing), but will need to stretch it a bit to fit. 
« Last Edit: March 14, 2023, 04:09 PM by Sparktrician »
- Willy -

  "Show us a man who never makes a mistake and we will show a man who never makes anything. 
  The capacity for occasional blundering is inseparable from the capacity to bring things to pass."

 - Herman Lincoln Wayland (1830-1898)

Offline Bencan

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2023, 04:52 PM »
we have a miele canister with hepa or carbon filter which is lighter, quieter, has a powered turbo brush with a light which festool can't touch
anti static hose, wand control, no dust when changing bags, etc etc

that said if i have the ct26 around, it vacuums just the same except when it comes to carpets. although sometimes the festool wand tends to fall apart since it's held by friction only, in 5 pieces

oh and the cord is a pain compared to miele which has the auto-retractable which is so smooth
i was thinking of replacing the ct26 cord with a softer (SJOOW?) but the prices are kinda high now
Ya I second the Miele vac. I used my midi for a time for household cleaning when it was fairly new and the Miele is lighter, quieter and performs better for household cleaning than the midi vac. Lower cost as well to buy a miele


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Offline jonnyrocket

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2023, 05:33 PM »

That Wessel-Werk TK286 will not go directly on the Festool 36mm hose nor on the cleaning wands. There's a pretty cheap Bosch adapter that works perfectly. How well it stays in while doing the cleaning, I don't know.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AV77S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?psc=1


I tried this Bosch adapter and the bottom line is, don’t do it.

An Amazon search for a better alternative turned up this one, which actually works very well!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B096L2FJJV?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_2J3ZFTXXD77BW5NW8AF7

If the link doesn’t work, search for this “Wessel-Werk Vacuum Hose Adapter 1 3/8-inch to 1 ¼ inch”

Offline Chainring

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Re: Wife wants a CT for household use?
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2023, 08:29 PM »
Good to know about the Bosch adapter. I only did the test fit from the stainless cleaning wand to the Wessel-Werk head, but didn't do any actual cleaning with it. The fit is good, but I'd imagine it's working loose?

BTW, Miele has a metal adapter and it does not fit, at all.