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FESTOOL DISCUSSIONS => Festool Tools & Accessories => Topic started by: RNEMTP on November 01, 2019, 02:05 PM

Title: What to buy next
Post by: RNEMTP on November 01, 2019, 02:05 PM
I run a handyman service and do a lot of custom carpentry. Within the last couple years I have been upgrading my tools to Festool. I'll list what I have and hopefully you all can tell me if there are any other must haves. Kapex KS 120, OF 1400, CXS drill, DF 500 & 700 sets, DF 700 connectors, MFT/3 with rail and fence, CMS-VL, TS 55 and multiple guide rails. RO 90, CT 36 AC, CT SYS, Carvex cordless. Most everything else I have is DeWalt. I do have a Makita cordless track saw and a Makita cordless trim router. My mobile shop is all cordless. I use most of the Festool stuff in my basement workshop. I've been thinking about another sander but don't know what to get. 
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: Gregor on November 01, 2019, 02:38 PM
CT-VA in case you empty bags often.
Rotex 150 in case you do larger sanding jobs (like stairs).
ETC EC in case you do finish sanding more often.
UG Cart + wings for the Kapex (in case you don't have them and think about taking it with you to a site).
LR 32 system in case you do cabinets.
MW 1000 table in case you need additional space directly next to your MFT.
Surfix+Rotex150 is nice when doing wood+oil.
8mm domino connector set is helpful at times.
CMS-OF plate (as you already have the CMS-VL and a fitting router) while the last ones are still available.

Is that enough to put under the tree this year or shall I continue?
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: RNEMTP on November 01, 2019, 03:47 PM
CT-VA in case you empty bags often.
Rotex 150 in case you do larger sanding jobs (like stairs).
ETC EC in case you do finish sanding more often.
UG Cart + wings for the Kapex (in case you don't have them and think about taking it with you to a site).
LR 32 system in case you do cabinets.
MW 1000 table in case you need additional space directly next to your MFT.
Surfix+Rotex150 is nice when doing wood+oil.
8mm domino connector set is helpful at times.
CMS-OF plate (as you already have the CMS-VL and a fitting router) while the last ones are still available.

Is that enough to put under the tree this year or shall I continue?
I forgot, I have the CMS-OF. That's the only module I have. The UG cart and wings are on my list of wants. LR 32 is also but I'm not sure how much I'd use it. I make cabinets all the time but mostly faceframe cabinets. I use a Kreg shelf pin jig and hinge jig. The choice is the sanders. Trying to make up my mind between the RO 150 and the ETS. The 8mm Domino connectors are also on my list. As soon as I get a job that requires them, I'll order them. Thank you for the reply. That's a good list of things to consider.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: Holzhacker on November 01, 2019, 05:14 PM
As far as sanders I would say an ets125 or dts400. I think those are the right numbers. I'd have to go look at mine. The round one and the triangle one. Both are great for little jobs where you need to do some sanding but not a lot. They of course also work fine for lots of sanding.
A CT 26 so you can stack systainers on top and roll into a jobsite.
Some sortainer or racktainer boxes to organize parts depending on types of installs you do.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: RNEMTP on November 01, 2019, 06:56 PM
As far as sanders I would say an ets125 or dts400. I think those are the right numbers. I'd have to go look at mine. The round one and the triangle one. Both are great for little jobs where you need to do some sanding but not a lot. They of course also work fine for lots of sanding.
A CT 26 so you can stack systainers on top and roll into a jobsite.
Some sortainer or racktainer boxes to organize parts depending on types of installs you do.
I'm looking into the ETS 125. It looks like quite the capable machine. I already have a CT 36 and a CT SYS so I think I'm good for dust collectors.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: neilc on November 01, 2019, 07:03 PM
You didn't mention a Vecturo.  Very handy for some home based renovations and repairs, adding electrical outlets, etc.

New cordless versions just released.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: FestitaMakool on November 01, 2019, 07:08 PM
Read your post right now, one of the first Festool "tools" I bought was the SYS-HWZ.
As for compact organising delicate hand tools which is always handy and come to use, I find this to be one of my top Festool purchase. Compact, and with the Systainer for carry abilities it is invaluable. Although, not a sander...  [big grin]
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: RNEMTP on November 01, 2019, 07:09 PM
You didn't mention a Vecturo.  Very handy for some home based renovations and repairs, adding electrical outlets, etc.

New cordless versions just released.
I've been looking at them  I have a Dewalt multi tool that is cordless. I like that it uses the universal blades instead of the Fein blades. That's why I got rid of my Multimaster. Blades were too expensive and not any better than the cheap ones. I'll agree, they are a handy tool.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: Alanbach on November 01, 2019, 08:26 PM
When you look at sanders I would look hard at the ETS-EC and compare it to the ETS. The ETS-EC is brushless and lower profile (which makes it easier to handle on walls and other vertical surfaces). It is quite a bit more powerful than the ETS. IMO it a great sander! I have 5 Festool sanders and it the first one I go to the most.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: RNEMTP on November 01, 2019, 10:48 PM
Thank you for the input. I think that’s the sander I’ve settled on. I like the low profile and it being cordless is a huge bonus.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: Alanbach on November 02, 2019, 12:18 AM
The cordless sander is different. That is the ETSC.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: Gregor on November 02, 2019, 08:41 AM
The cordless sander is different. That is the ETSC.
Different battery platform, though at least the same charger.

LR 32 is also but I'm not sure how much I'd use it. I make cabinets all the time but mostly faceframe cabinets. I use a Kreg shelf pin jig and hinge jig.
The LR32 can put rows onto the middle of a sheet, not only near the corner. Also since you have a D700 (which has pins) this little modification (http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/962087/13205874/1310690477947/Festool+Domino+machine+mounted+on+the+32mm+shelf+hole+drilling+jig.pdf?token=2XTalsjxl7pagAqqJfmNDenCLz8%3D) should work (possibly with slightly different dimension/placement for the holes). According to this demo from Dave (https://youtu.be/ctliWaYo2XQ)
that jig seems to be way slower to use in a production environment (compared to LR32), though it has the upside that it can be used on already assembled cabinets.
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Trying to make up my mind between the RO 150 and the ETS.
I suggest you make it between the RO 150 and ETS EC 150/3 - then get them both (since paper will be the same), in that order (the former for coarse and fine, the latter for perfect super-fine finish).
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: Cheese on November 02, 2019, 10:13 AM
For a sander I'd go with the ETS EC as a corded model or the ETSC as a cordless model.

The ETS EC is a joy to use on horizontal and vertical surfaces. On overhead surfaces I tend to use the ETSC because there is no cord and no hose.

Lately, I've been using the ETSC for refinishing removable storm window frames. The battery lasts for about 45 minutes of continuous sanding. I just keep an extra battery in the charger.  [smile]

The ETS EC is a more aggressive sander than the ETSC, that's the reason I purchased both.

Also, if you purchase an ETS EC 125, the 150 pad will fit it. However, the 125 pad WILL NOT fit the ETS EC 150.  [mad]
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: jobsworth on November 02, 2019, 12:42 PM
Have you thought about the FT routers. Using a router on a guide rail is awesome. Maybe a 1400/1010 which can be used with the LR 32 or 2200 which has unbelievable balance and is a dream to use with the kit that has the extra bases, edge guide etc.

The MFK700 is a very cool little router to but cant be used with the LR 32 but I like useing it to flush trim edge banding, and other light routing operations
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: RNEMTP on November 02, 2019, 11:23 PM
Have you thought about the FT routers. Using a router on a guide rail is awesome. Maybe a 1400/1010 which can be used with the LR 32 or 2200 which has unbelievable balance and is a dream to use with the kit that has the extra bases, edge guide etc.

The MFK700 is a very cool little router to but cant be used with the LR 32 but I like useing it to flush trim edge banding, and other light routing operations
I have an OF 1400 that I use with the rails and in the CMS OF. You’re right! Great router to have.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: rst on November 03, 2019, 11:21 AM
I have most of the Festool sanders, if i could only have two for the kind of work you do it would be the ETS EC 125 and the DTSC.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: Gregor on November 03, 2019, 02:55 PM
I have most of the Festool sanders, if i could only have two for the kind of work you do it would be the ETS EC 125 and the DTSC.
Out of curiosity: while I agree on the ETC EC (great machine), why the 125 and not the 150?
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: rst on November 03, 2019, 08:29 PM
Because you can install the 150 pad on the 125...that being said I have both...(because I'm more than a little crazy).  I own most tools known to man and quite a few most men do not know exist.  I tell my customers that if I can't fix what they have...it probably wasn't made on earth.
Title: Re: What to buy next
Post by: Tik Tok on November 08, 2019, 06:53 AM
You didn't mention a Vecturo.  Very handy for some home based renovations and repairs, adding electrical outlets, etc.

New cordless versions just released.

This. I find oscillating tools to be incredibly useful when you get into those “how do I...” situations.