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Offline Frank-Jan

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Re: What is your method/equipment to install door butt hinges?
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2022, 04:16 AM »
I work mostly in the Netherlands, and I use a commercially available hinge jig that is easy to use and versatile.

It consists of several jigs mounted on an aluminum rail, There is enough room on the rail to position them for all standard door heights (201,5cm, 211,5 cm, 231,5 cm). The jigs are available for all standard size leaf hinges, and are also available with built in spacing if you are routing hinges for exterior doors when draft profiles are mounted afterwards.

I do mostly paint-grade work, and mount the jig with screws.




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Offline Coen

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Re: What is your method/equipment to install door butt hinges?
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2022, 10:05 AM »
No disrespect intended to anyone, but some of these methods are ludicrously overcomplicated for what is the most basic, fundamental, day #1 lesson #1 task imaginable. If you only have one door to do - a wooden mallet and a 25mm razor-sharp firmer chisel. Less than two minutes per hinge, and a tight, flawless result after a little practise.

If you have multiple doors to do - a quarter-inch router, a parallel guide and a 19mm hinge cutter, plus either your firmer chisel or a corner chisel to square the corners. Once the guide and plunge depth are set up - each one takes seconds. I can regularly hang 7-8 doors per day on site work, including locks and hardware. There is really no need whatsoever for complex and costly jigs and other gadgets.

The 1/4" can stay far far away. [tongue]

Buy hinges with rounded corners... the chisels can then also stay away.

Your 2-minute claim is probably after having done 200 of those.

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: What is your method/equipment to install door butt hinges?
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2022, 10:46 AM »
@Coen Multiply that number by 15 and you'd be in the ballpark.

Offline Coen

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Re: What is your method/equipment to install door butt hinges?
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2022, 02:09 PM »
@Coen Multiply that number by 15 and you'd be in the ballpark.

So the point is that after investing 150 hours practice (assuming average of 3 minutes) you end up being faster than grabbing the router and a template?

Really makes me think. If you install that many... you already have the jig. If you don't install that many, you most likely don't have the practice to do it that fast with the chisel anyway.

But to each his own. I don't even own a decent hand wood saw.

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: What is your method/equipment to install door butt hinges?
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2022, 05:58 PM »
@Coen Read my post again. I said that the mallet and chisel are only appropriate if you have 1 or 2 doors to do. If you don't = a pencil, a router and a parallel guide are all you need - and which the OP already has. Give me a keen student, give me an hour - and I'll have him/her swinging a door whilst the other guy is still halfway through setting up his jig. That was the whole point of my reply to the OP. If he'd rather spend his money on a gadget than take honest advice from a guy who's hung 3000+ doors, then so be it. It's our money, we all spend it how we choose to.

Kind regards
Kevin

Offline Coen

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Re: What is your method/equipment to install door butt hinges?
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2022, 06:02 PM »
Doing it with the jig will result in a nicer cut, so it's not the same.

Offline Imemiter

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Re: What is your method/equipment to install door butt hinges?
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2022, 04:34 PM »
Rabbeted jambs and installed casings are the bane of hand-routing with an edge guide. That, and the fact that every hinge has to be measured. I apprenticed as a door-hanger hanging raw slabs in tract homes. One house after another. We'd come in to hang temp exterior doors first and I'd run around clipping interior door jacks to the king studs. I still have no idea why these guys weren't already using pre-hung doors. But even old school as my mentors were, they were all using the Templaco sticks or the Porter Cable equivalent.     
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Offline Bencan

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Re: What is your method/equipment to install door butt hinges?
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2022, 06:30 PM »
Hey all

What is your method to install butt hinges on internal doors? I was thinking of using the OF1010 or the MFK700 with a jig like something from Trend (UK). Trend Door Hardware Jig and getting my hands on some copy rings and suitable bit.

Softwood doors.

Cheers
K
I personally use the trend Skelton jig and the of1010 if I’m hanging doors on new jambs. In existing jambs I’ll use the basic porter cable jig as I like to fit my doors to the old jamb then mark the hinges with the door sitting in the opening. The of1010 is always used, I have never used the 700 with either of these jigs


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