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Offline six-point socket II

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2023, 01:02 PM »
Since when do Festool Airstream batteries include a fan? It's the charger that creates the "airstream" via fan.

That aside, if you feel the Milwaukee is the better deal for you, go with it.


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« Last Edit: February 26, 2023, 02:27 PM by six-point socket II »
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Offline promark747

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2023, 02:11 PM »
The Milwaukee rides nicely on the Festool track, with the only minor downside being the Milwaukee anti-tip swivel tab will not work (the Milwaukee track has a special groove for that).

As a happy TS55 (corded) owner for many years, I bought the Milwaukee because I wanted to go cordless and I have a ton of M18 batteries for other tools.  The only cordless Festool tools I have are T12 drills, lights, and Carvex -- so I have no 18v.

So far I am happy with the Milwaukee, but I probably would have been just as happy with the TSC.

Offline dougcjohn

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2023, 08:19 PM »
Since when do Festool Airstream batteries include a fan? It's the charger that creates the "airstream" via fan.

That aside, if you feel the Milwaukee is the better deal for you, go with it.


Kind regards,
Oliver
That's my bad... I meant to say "cooling duct". When I examined the batteries, I noticed looking down the vent (cooling duct) and looked like a small fan was down in the battery. I don't have an Airstream now, unable to verify what I mistaken for a fan.

Offline dougcjohn

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2023, 08:22 PM »
The Milwaukee rides nicely on the Festool track, with the only minor downside being the Milwaukee anti-tip swivel tab will not work (the Milwaukee track has a special groove for that).

As a happy TS55 (corded) owner for many years, I bought the Milwaukee because I wanted to go cordless and I have a ton of M18 batteries for other tools.  The only cordless Festool tools I have are T12 drills, lights, and Carvex -- so I have no 18v.

So far I am happy with the Milwaukee, but I probably would have been just as happy with the TSC.

Nice to hear!
I'd agree, for most work either battery powered track saw would work nicely.
Be interested in your thoughts after some usage.

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2023, 11:37 PM »
The price of the Milwaukee surprised me, $639 at Home Depot with 1 battery, a charger, a dust bag and a Packout. That's right up there.

Also noticed the Milwaukee blade has a 1.3 mm plate with a 1.6 mm kerf while Festool uses a 1.2 mm plate with a 1.8 mm kerf.
I wonder if they can be resharpened...maybe not? Maybe they're considered disposable?

The blades are dirt cheap compared to Festool, $35 for a 40 tooth blade vs $84 for Festool while the fiber cement blade is $90 vs $145.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 10:51 AM by Cheese »

Offline dougcjohn

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2023, 01:01 AM »
The price of the Milwaukee surprised me, $639 at Home Depot with 1 battery, a charger, a dust bag and a Packout. That's right up there.

Also noticed the Milwaukee blade has a 1.3 mm plate with a 1.6 mm kerf while Festool uses a 1.2 mm plate with a 1.8 mm kerf.

The blades are dirt cheap compared to Festool, $35 for a 40 tooth blade vs $84 for Festool while the fiber cement blade is $90 vs $145. I wonder if they can be resharpened...maybe not? Maybe they're considered disposable?

Great info on blades and cost. I didn’t realize kerf’s were different and that Milwaukee was thinner at 1.6mm.

Offline NiteWalkerGR

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2023, 05:13 AM »
The price of the Milwaukee surprised me, $639 at Home Depot with 1 battery, a charger, a dust bag and a Packout. That's right up there.
That's pretty irritating to me; when announced, the price was $539 for that kit. $639 is a pretty bad deal for that kit.

Online Cheese

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2023, 09:13 AM »
Great info on blades and cost. I didn’t realize kerf’s were different and that Milwaukee was thinner at 1.6mm.

I like the Milwaukee's thicker plate with the thinner kerf but just wonder how that may impact sharpening. With only .15 mm of carbide overhang any chips probably precludes the blade from being resharpened.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2023, 10:45 AM by Cheese »

Offline squall_line

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2023, 10:27 AM »
The price of the Milwaukee surprised me, $639 at Home Depot with 1 battery, a charger, a dust bag and a Packout. That's right up there.

Also noticed the Milwaukee blade has a 1.3 mm plate with a 1.6 mm kerf while Festool uses a 1.2 mm plate with a 1.8 mm kerf.

The blades are dirt cheap compared to Festool, $35 for a 40 tooth blade vs $84 for Festool while the fiber cement blade is $90 vs $145. I wonder if they can be resharpened...maybe not? Maybe they're considered disposable?

Great info on blades and cost. I didn’t realize kerf’s were different and that Milwaukee was thinner at 1.6mm.

That also explains the "better power" from the Milwaukee.  Longer runtime and greater perceived power are among the reasons that Festool has outright stated as why they took the TS 55 from a 2.2mm kerf to a 1.8mm kerf.

Offline SilviaS7

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2023, 08:43 PM »
Milwaukee makes some great tools, I have some.  They also have the most breadth to their catalog of offerings compared to other power tools you can buy in any big box home store or hardware store.  I also think their tools perform well under stress, as they're designed for folks that Milwaukee assumes will abuse the tool.  Which is great for the market they go after.  I don't think Festool is competing in the same market as Milwaukee.  Like, Festool tools may not be the most powerful, but they have the right amount of power for their application to make the operation just feel good.  I like to think it's finesse, they have found the exact sweet spot they want to be in for that particular tool.  I recently bought a CXS and I feel like this tool embodies that - it isn't the most powerful compact drill-driver, but man it just seems to do the job better than the others.  The CT dust extractors don't necessarily have the highest CFM or most powerful suction, but they have the right amount to be perfect at what they do.  The ETS EC sanders aren't the most powerful, but they feel amazing to use and complete the work quicker, without me feeling like my arm is going to vibrate into another dimension.  It's a fair criticism to say the latest TSC is less powerful than the Milwaukee, but I think for most folks who are into Festool that won't necessarily matter.  If you prefer the Milwaukee to the Festool due to the power difference, there's nothing wrong with that.  I just don't think it will matter long term unless Festool never updates the TSC, which is super unlikely.

Online Bencan

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Re: TSC 55 KEB vs Milwaukee M18 Tracksaw
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2023, 05:43 PM »
Milwaukee makes some great tools, I have some.  They also have the most breadth to their catalog of offerings compared to other power tools you can buy in any big box home store or hardware store.  I also think their tools perform well under stress, as they're designed for folks that Milwaukee assumes will abuse the tool.  Which is great for the market they go after.  I don't think Festool is competing in the same market as Milwaukee.  Like, Festool tools may not be the most powerful, but they have the right amount of power for their application to make the operation just feel good.  I like to think it's finesse, they have found the exact sweet spot they want to be in for that particular tool.  I recently bought a CXS and I feel like this tool embodies that - it isn't the most powerful compact drill-driver, but man it just seems to do the job better than the others.  The CT dust extractors don't necessarily have the highest CFM or most powerful suction, but they have the right amount to be perfect at what they do.  The ETS EC sanders aren't the most powerful, but they feel amazing to use and complete the work quicker, without me feeling like my arm is going to vibrate into another dimension.  It's a fair criticism to say the latest TSC is less powerful than the Milwaukee, but I think for most folks who are into Festool that won't necessarily matter.  If you prefer the Milwaukee to the Festool due to the power difference, there's nothing wrong with that.  I just don't think it will matter long term unless Festool never updates the TSC, which is super unlikely.
Ya this is pretty much my exact sentiment. The cxs really is a great example.


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