Author Topic: What Festool Did You buy Today? (Read 797626 times)

Packard · « **Reply #2460 on:** December 08, 2022, 10:01 AM »

Quote from: timwors on December 08, 2022, 03:03 AM

Wow, those are some amazing prices. I can't decide whether to be impressed or annoyed!

I wonder if it was a one-off sale? Hopefully they'll repeat it!

Try shooting them an email that is something like this.

Travis Perkins:

I understand that you recently had a sale on the Festool OF2200 @ £498. Had I known about that at the time, I would have placed an order.

Please send me an email when this offer repeats. If I am still in the market for the OF2200 at that time, I will place an order.

Best Regards, etc…

You will likely receive a reply in one of three versions.

1. We will be glad to notify you when that sale repeats.

2. That was a special purchase, it is unlikely to repeat.

3. I have spoken to management, and they have decided to extend that sale price for you if you place an order today.

Or they could decide to ignore your email. In any case, I see no harm in writing.

timwors · « **Reply #2461 on:** December 09, 2022, 04:03 AM »

That's a superb idea: nothing to lose in giving it a try.

Looking at their website they no longer show the KS60 at all (which is what I am after). They do have a FS 1400/2 for £49.99 which is about half price, although I'm really after the LR-32 version.

neth27 · « **Reply #2462 on:** December 09, 2022, 04:19 AM »

The KS60 doubled in price the next day.

ChuckS · « **Reply #2463 on:** December 09, 2022, 07:48 AM »

Quote from: neth27 on December 09, 2022, 04:19 AM

The KS60 doubled in price the next day.

That made me wonder how much money the vendor lost on each promotion sale. Or, how much it makes in its regular sales!

Packard · « **Reply #2464 on:** December 09, 2022, 09:32 AM »

There could be another mechanism going on. When I worked retail in cameras, we had incentives to sell more of one brand over others. So if we sold 20 cameras for that manufacturer they would charge one price. But if we sold 21 cameras that month for the manufacturer they would give a hefty discount for all the items that were purchased.

If we had sold 19 or 20 cameras for the month and needed one or two more to get the promotional discount, it was more profitable to sell the remaining that were needed at cost or even for $0.01 to net that extra profit.

Festool might have a similar discount plan. For example (with my invented numbers):

All dealers get 50% off list price.

Dealers who sold $50,000.00 for the month get 60% off list price.

So discounting one item might put them over the threshold to the larger discount and greater profit on all the items sold that month.

I am not saying that is what is going on, but it is a fairly common practice in retail. Automobile manufacturers do that regularly. That is why the terrific deal you were offered on Friday, the last day of the month, disappears on Saturday, the first day of the next month.

Of course if they made the quota earlier in the month they will not offer those great deals.

Cheese · « **Reply #2465 on:** December 09, 2022, 11:32 AM »

These are nice but they will take a bit to get used to them. They are a very firm fit in the 20 mm holes.

Crazyraceguy · « **Reply #2466 on:** December 09, 2022, 06:51 PM »

Cheese, you will learn to like them. The real beauty comes from the one-handed nature of them. The firm fit in the holes allows them to stay in place when you remove the part from under them. Stick the piece in and raise the lever, done. They are much quicker than the regular table clamps for things like batch cutting domino slots.
My holes are rather tight, since I drilled them with the Parf system. I have to hand ream some of them, once in a while, when they get glue drips or something.
Getting them too close to the table surface can make removing them a bit of a challenge. I have had to push one or two up from the underside of the table.

Cheese · « **Reply #2467 on:** December 10, 2022, 10:13 AM »

Quote from: Crazyraceguy on December 09, 2022, 06:51 PM

Cheese, you will learn to like them. The real beauty comes from the one-handed nature of them. The firm fit in the holes allows them to stay in place when you remove the part from under them. Stick the piece in and raise the lever, done. They are much quicker than the regular table clamps for things like batch cutting domino slots.

Getting them too close to the table surface can make removing them a bit of a challenge. I have had to push one or two up from the underside of the table.

I bought them specifically for rapid clamping and unclamping for batch Domino mortises. When using the standard quick clamps they always fall down through the dog holes after they are released.

I have used toilet tank washers with the quick clamps and that works fairly well, but it still isn't 100%.

So I figured I'd give these new ones a try. They are a close fit in the dog holes and that's a good thing for dog hole life.

But as you mentioned, if they get too close to the "MFT" surface they need to be pushed up from the underside of the surface. I think there will be a little learning/handling/placement curve here.

Coen · « **Reply #2468 on:** December 10, 2022, 06:40 PM »

Maybe integrate a T slot in the bench?

Crazyraceguy · « **Reply #2469 on:** December 13, 2022, 05:42 PM »

I came to the realization the other day, that of all of the sanders I have, I don't have one that doesn't spin. So, RTS400 seemed like it would be the fix.

luvmytoolz · « **Reply #2470 on:** December 13, 2022, 06:39 PM »

Quote from: Crazyraceguy on December 13, 2022, 05:42 PM

I came to the realization the other day, that of all of the sanders I have, I don't have one that doesn't spin. So, RTS400 seemed like it would be the fix.

Given the quantity of work you do, I reckon you'd greatly benefit from an RS2E if you can find one!

Bencan · « **Reply #2471 on:** December 14, 2022, 06:42 PM »

Lr32 and second mft 3. Hooked this up, making quite a few cabinets coming up seemed like the thing to do. Also went for the pliers set.

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Skylier36 · « **Reply #2472 on:** December 15, 2022, 11:44 AM »

Ordered the STM1800 based on convos from this group, unfortunately showed up with a damaged stop pin/knob. Won't affect breaking down sheet goods and using as a makeshift assembly table.

Crazyraceguy · « **Reply #2473 on:** December 17, 2022, 06:18 PM »

After being on backorder for over a month, the FS 2424/ LR32 finally arrived yesterday. I stopped to pick it up on the way home last night, since I had to be at work this morning before the dealer would have been open.
Then came the "how to store it" dilemma. I chose to put it where the FS 1900 was and make a swinging door to put it in front of the others. It's just an off-cut piece of piano hinge and some scrap ply.

Cheese · « **Reply #2474 on:** December 18, 2022, 09:17 AM »

Quote from: Crazyraceguy on December 17, 2022, 06:18 PM

I chose to put it where the FS 1900 was and make a swinging door to put it in front of the others. It's just an off-cut piece of piano hinge and some scrap ply.

That's clever...I like that.

Crazyraceguy · « **Reply #2475 on:** December 18, 2022, 09:42 AM »

Thank you.
It's kind of an extension of an idea I had several years ago for my Bessey clamp rack. That left side swings away to reach the longer ones behind.
I don't seem to have a pic of it closed up, but back in the day, I used to lock it. It had a really wild grain patterned piece of poplar raised panels on the doors. Just another casualty of the fire in '19, which is why none of my Besseys have wooden handles anymore.

Mike Goetzke · « **Reply #2476 on:** December 18, 2022, 10:08 AM »

Nice idea and simple.

I like those long clamps you have too!

ChuckS · « **Reply #2477 on:** December 18, 2022, 12:42 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on December 10, 2022, 10:13 AM

Quote from: Crazyraceguy on December 09, 2022, 06:51 PM
Cheese, you will learn to like them. The real beauty comes from the one-handed nature of them. The firm fit in the holes allows them to stay in place when you remove the part from under them. Stick the piece in and raise the lever, done. They are much quicker than the regular table clamps for things like batch cutting domino slots.

Getting them too close to the table surface can make removing them a bit of a challenge. I have had to push one or two up from the underside of the table.

I bought them specifically for rapid clamping and unclamping for batch Domino mortises. When using the standard quick clamps they always fall down through the dog holes after they are released.

I have used toilet tank washers with the quick clamps and that works fairly well, but it still isn't 100%.

So I figured I'd give these new ones a try. They are a close fit in the dog holes and that's a good thing for dog hole life.

But as you mentioned, if they get too close to the "MFT" surface they need to be pushed up from the underside of the surface. I think there will be a little learning/handling/placement curve here.

Like you, I need to take off the clamp head to use the clamp on my workbench. I use a small binder clip to keep the shaft from dropping under the bench:

4nthony · « **Reply #2478 on:** December 24, 2022, 02:07 PM »

When Santa Recon shows up a day early. What a deal these were. Not shown in the picture is the included rails.

Time to pick up some foam and make some inserts.

hdv · « **Reply #2479 on:** December 24, 2022, 02:22 PM »

I ordered another MFK 700. Now I can dedicate one permanently to horizontal mode. I really do like this router! I think it is my first Festool I have more than one of (barring clamps and rails).

Crazyraceguy · « **Reply #2480 on:** December 24, 2022, 06:08 PM »

Quote from: hdv on December 24, 2022, 02:22 PM

I ordered another MFK 700. Now I can dedicate one permanently to horizontal mode. I really do like this router! I think it is my first Festool I have more than one of (barring clamps and rails).

It was my first to have a second unit too. Then I bought the second OF1010, when the updated REQ-F version came out.
That is also using your clamp disclaimer, I have 2 MFT sets, though they are different. The first was the one with the clamping elements and dogs, the second one was the newer set with the hold-fast type clamps.

alltracman78 · « **Reply #2481 on:** December 26, 2022, 07:08 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on December 18, 2022, 09:17 AM

Quote from: Crazyraceguy on December 17, 2022, 06:18 PM
I chose to put it where the FS 1900 was and make a swinging door to put it in front of the others. It's just an off-cut piece of piano hinge and some scrap ply.

That's clever...I like that.

Yeah, that's pretty slick....
If only my basement had a higher ceiling.

RJNeal · « **Reply #2482 on:** December 26, 2022, 07:11 PM »

A replacement 75” track. Misplaced one three years ago. I got the new style.

Coen · « **Reply #2483 on:** January 07, 2023, 01:32 PM »

Sys³ L 137 (to store;)
MFS-400
Festool
TS 55 F blades for Laminate/HPL and for Aluminium/Plastics
More stuff yet to be delivered

I should have bought it all earlier.

Coen · « **Reply #2484 on:** January 07, 2023, 01:48 PM »

Quote from: RJNeal on December 26, 2022, 07:11 PM

A replacement 75” track. Misplaced one three years ago. I got the new style.

The one with place for sticky pads? Because the previous "new" style was 2004

Michael Kellough · « **Reply #2485 on:** January 07, 2023, 04:45 PM »

Quote from: RJNeal on December 26, 2022, 07:11 PM

A replacement 75” track. Misplaced one three years ago. I got the new style.

@RJNeal How was the packaging on your rail?

I received a new style 1400 that arrived in the retail package, open on the top end, and no green sticky things. Also discovered a dented corner on the rail.

The bottom end of retail package is glued together but the top is just folded. The rail fits diagonally across the box. Apparently if turned upside down and banged on one of the two corners not occupied by the rail, the rail can slide out of the box. And UPS won’t bother to put the green things back in or tuck the cardboard flaps back in.

The vendor should at least tape the top of the box before handing it off to the shipper.

That said the retail package does do a pretty good job of protecting the rail from being bent in normal handling. There are two stiff cardboard angle profiles included in the box.

woodbutcherbower · « **Reply #2486 on:** January 08, 2023, 06:24 AM »

Upcoming shop project starting in two weeks which involves breaking down 48 sheets of 18mm MDF. After working with 2 x 1400's and 1 x 800 since forever, I finally bit the bullet and ordered an FS 2700/2 rail.

Coen · « **Reply #2487 on:** January 08, 2023, 02:25 PM »

What made you choose the 2700 over the 3000?

Quote from: Coen on January 07, 2023, 01:32 PM

Sys³ L 137 (to store;)
MFS-400
Festool
TS 55 F blades for Laminate/HPL and for Aluminium/Plastics
More stuff yet to be delivered

I should have bought it all earlier.

Huu, I was sure I had seen a Systainer Midi with a MFS inside, but in this Sys³ L 187 it doesn't fit. At least not without modification. Midi and Sys³ L aren't the same of course, but still.

woodbutcherbower · « **Reply #2488 on:** January 08, 2023, 02:30 PM »

Quote from: Coen on January 08, 2023, 02:25 PM

What made you choose the 2700 over the 3000?

Because if I ever need to take a longer rail out onsite, the 2700 will go in my van. The 3000 is too long.

RJNeal · « **Reply #2489 on:** January 08, 2023, 09:15 PM »

Quote from: Michael Kellough on January 07, 2023, 04:45 PM

Quote from: RJNeal on December 26, 2022, 07:11 PM
A replacement 75” track. Misplaced one three years ago. I got the new style.

@RJNeal How was the packaging on your rail?

I received a new style 1400 that arrived in the retail package, open on the top end, and no green sticky things. Also discovered a dented corner on the rail.

The bottom end of retail package is glued together but the top is just folded. The rail fits diagonally across the box. Apparently if turned upside down and banged on one of the two corners not occupied by the rail, the rail can slide out of the box. And UPS won’t bother to put the green things back in or tuck the cardboard flaps back in.

The vendor should at least tape the top of the box before handing it off to the shipper.

That said the retail package does do a pretty good job of protecting the rail from being bent in normal handling. There are two stiff cardboard angle profiles included in the box.

Thank you Michael, I just went out to open the box. It’s all good. I didn’t think there would be a problem because I picked it up at woodcraft in Eugene. The box was in great shape,
Now we’ll see how long the guiderail strip stays on this one.
Rick