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Offline bulubuluplopplop

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2070 on: October 06, 2021, 08:03 AM »
Hello,
I just bought a defect OF 1400 router for a few bucks. Probably needs a new armature (ordered).
The machine was highly used and shows some wear. I wanted to try to mount it on a router table, but the 2 holes under the sole which seems fine to mount on a router plate are somewhat too big for M6 (6mm) bolts. M6 bolts are about 5.9 mm and the holes are 6.13 mm... Any idea ?
I noticed also that the center ring of the router was "somewhat" machined (the 2 screws also).



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Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2071 on: October 06, 2021, 08:22 AM »
Retapping them to 1/4 inch would be my solution. Or if that doesn’t work a bit larger.
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Offline festal

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2072 on: October 06, 2021, 09:43 AM »
screws are M6.  did you try M6 screws to see how they fit?  I just actually drilled LR32 plate to mount it to 1400 router

Offline bobtskutter

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2073 on: October 06, 2021, 09:57 AM »
I think there's supposed to be a thread insert in there.  Im sure I've seen a post on the FOG about someone having the insert fall out.

Edit - just found this on screwfix (i'm in the uk)
https://www.screwfix.com/p/helicoil-eco-thread-repair-kit-m6-x-1-0mm-14-pieces/293fr
they're called helicoil thread inserts.
Bob
« Last Edit: October 06, 2021, 10:01 AM by bobtskutter »

Offline bulubuluplopplop

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2074 on: October 06, 2021, 10:27 AM »
screws are M6.  did you try M6 screws to see how they fit?  I just actually drilled LR32 plate to mount it to 1400 router

yes it doesnt fit, the M6 bolt is floating (and M7 doesnt fit)

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I think there's supposed to be a thread insert in there.  Im sure I've seen a post on the FOG about someone having the insert fall out.
ok, there is no insert for me it is straight aluminium from the sole.
I have helicoil threads I will try if the 6mm one does fit.


Offline Alex

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2075 on: October 06, 2021, 04:34 PM »
Biggest tools shopping spree in my life today. Bought 5 Festools, a PS300. CTL 26, C15 and two TS55 REBQ's. And a bunch of other tools. All used, except for a brand new Senco drywall gun. This is a great tool, built so much better than the DeWalt we already had, and also better than the Festool DWC. Also two hammer drills, a few cordless drills and a MultiMaster. More to add tough.

I'm not just buying for myself, but for a starting construction company. We're building 8 appartments right now, and a sub contractor who worked on two of them with a crew of 5 turned out to be unreliable, so the boss lady cancelled the contract. He pulled out his guys and his tools. Funny thing, we had new guys in a day, but new tools is gonna take a bit longer. Spend 12 hours today to pick up two lots. Most of the powertools covered now, but still a lot of handtools to go.







       

Offline Lincoln

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2076 on: October 06, 2021, 06:48 PM »
Alex, not sure I understand - are you supplying tools for subcontract crews?

Offline Alex

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2077 on: October 07, 2021, 01:27 AM »
Alex, not sure I understand - are you supplying tools for subcontract crews?

No, for our own crew. First we had a subcontractor doing the work for us, but now we're hiring our own crew directly.

Offline bulubuluplopplop

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2078 on: October 07, 2021, 03:47 AM »
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shopping spree
indeed  [blink]


So I checked for an Helicoil and a M6 helicoil doesnt fit.
The drill bits for the helicoil are 0.3 mm bigger than the thread size (so 6.3 mm for M6).
But at least I can drill both holes to fit an M6 helicoil.

Offline Cheese

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2079 on: October 13, 2021, 12:06 AM »
I purchased a RAP 150 about a month ago from Festoolrecon for 35% off. I ordered bits & pieces for it and finally received everything so I can finally put it to bed. So...the Equinox finally gets buffed out next week.  [smile]







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Offline Coen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2080 on: October 13, 2021, 01:26 PM »
A CTL Midi I + bags + basic cleaning set #576839 + brush

Just to have another vac and also one that is easier to take upstairs, or rather... downstairs when halfway filled with heavy debris and compacted dust.

Not liking the fact all the sets with the previous Systainer are sold out.

That is also one of the reasons I ordered the D8 Domino connector set with it; before they switch that over to the hideous Sys3 too.

Offline Alex

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2081 on: October 13, 2021, 02:13 PM »
A Carvex PSC 420. Used, for only 120 euro, I could not let that pass. A weak ago I bought a C15 to join my stable of 15v race horses. And I got 3 brand new 15v batteries for them.



Also bought my second Protool AGP 12-125 D grinder, I really love these, so much power in a small package and pretty quiet also. This one came with the nice DCG dust extraction head.



Offline Coen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2082 on: October 13, 2021, 03:20 PM »
Where do you find all those deals? On Marktplaats? All I see is "almost new" (=10 years old) at prices equal to German new prices.

Offline rvieceli

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2083 on: October 13, 2021, 03:38 PM »
Where do you find all those deals? On Marktplaats? All I see is "almost new" (=10 years old) at prices equal to German new prices.

@Coen if he told you, "he'd have to kill you"  [tongue]

Ron

Offline Alex

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2084 on: October 13, 2021, 04:24 PM »
I buy a lot of tools on www.marktplaats.nl indeed. With a little perseverance and negotiation skills you can get very good deals. I mostly get my used Festools there at 40-50% new price.

In Amsterdam, where I live closeby, there is the Rembrandtplein market, and you can find used tools there too.

Finally, in a city called Beverwijk there is a very big market place called the "Beverwijkse Bazaar", previously called "De Zwarte Markt" (Black market), where they have several areas dedicated to stands with used tools. Whenever I am in the neighbourhood, I have a quick look there. I bought my 2018 CTL Midi there for 225 euro, and then I sold off my 2006 CTL Mini for 250 on marktplaats.  [big grin]   

Unfortunately for you and everybody else reading this, Ron is right. You're all scheduled for termination now.  You should not have asked the unaskable. [tongue]


I do seem to have a little problem though with my new used Carvex. Somehow the leds on the right side stay on permanently, even when the saw is not in use. I have read the manual to see if it is just a setting I can change, and found the part where you set the light to On, Off or Stroboscope, but only the leds on the left side react to it, and work as they should, while the ones on the right stay permanently on.

Anybody else ever encountered this? Is there a solution?


Offline Coen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2085 on: October 13, 2021, 05:02 PM »
My sawbre saw does the same, as long as it's plugged in, the LED's are on.

In this case I would suspect someone re-wired something...

On the Markplaats thing; yeah, with time you can find good deals. But I soo much hate it. I'd rather work extra hours, pay the income tax and use the leftovers for the extra expense of new tools. I have a mail subscription for a few things (like a HK 85), but even if you look the minute you get the mail... it's already reserved.

Just looked for a TS 55 REBQ... there is one "almost new", but really from 2017, unknown worn blade... and there is already a bid of €360 on it. The __________ why? The thing is four years old, out of warranty, the blade is probably wasted and people still offer 75% of new price?!
« Last Edit: October 13, 2021, 05:13 PM by Coen »

Offline afish

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2086 on: October 13, 2021, 06:20 PM »
I dont get the used prices either.  75% around me would probably be a good deal.  For what they want I just order from Hartville (usually) and its to my door ASAP.  Full warranty no driving to meet some seller.  Easy, convenient with full warranty easily covers the slight savings.  Every market it different I dont even bother checking anymore for used Festool.   

Offline Alex

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2087 on: October 14, 2021, 01:32 AM »
Just looked for a TS 55 REBQ... there is one "almost new", but really from 2017, unknown worn blade... and there is already a bid of €360 on it. The __________ why? The thing is four years old, out of warranty, the blade is probably wasted and people still offer 75% of new price?!

I just bought two of them for my crew, one for 250 and the other for 275. Both saws in great condition but for one I have to buy a new blade for another 45 euro. I would not pay 360 as above for this saw, unless it came with at least two good rails.

I bought my first Festool, the RO150 for 275 on marktplaats. A professional painter bought it for a flooring project but realised after two days the sander was way too small for this, so he rented a flooring sander and sold off the Rotex. Back in 2008 there was no return policy like now. He paid 475 ex VAT for it, I got the original receipt with it.

Offline squall_line

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2088 on: October 14, 2021, 09:02 AM »
I dont get the used prices either.  75% around me would probably be a good deal.  For what they want I just order from Hartville (usually) and its to my door ASAP.  Full warranty no driving to meet some seller.  Easy, convenient with full warranty easily covers the slight savings.  Every market it different I dont even bother checking anymore for used Festool.   

The only good price deals I've gotten on used Festools have been from pawn shops with buy-it-now prices on eBay, honestly.  I've only ever seen a few listings for less than full market price, even tools that are in Classic systainers.  The other couple of used Festools I've bought privately have only ever been a good deal because they included a ton of accessories, since those add up quickly.

When I see used tools bidding up over retail on eBay, and those tools are still in stock online from retailers, I just shake my head in wonder and figure that someone's running a money-laundering scheme.  Either that, or hope I can find the same naïve buyers when it's time for me to sell any of my used equipment...

Offline Paul_HKI

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2089 on: October 15, 2021, 04:55 PM »
Picked up a set of the FSV/2 guide rail connectors. 


They work exactly the way we've all hoped they would for so long.



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Offline Coen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2090 on: October 16, 2021, 06:11 AM »
Well, the Midi I and cleaning set arrived. First impression; Absolutely very nice compact dust extractor. Second; this Sys^3 is bullsh*it. Mounted on top of the Midi, the handle sticking out makes the whole thing wider and so harder to store, ride or carry around.

I might just dump this Systainer on Marktplaats and get a T-Loc one.

Or maybe just remove the front handle but it seems it needs massive flexing to remove it...

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« Last Edit: October 16, 2021, 06:28 AM by Coen »

Offline Coen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2091 on: October 16, 2021, 06:29 AM »
Picked up a set of the FSV/2 guide rail connectors. 


They work exactly the way we've all hoped they would for so long.

Ah, they are sold in even numbers now? Good to hear they work. They will go on my list of 'stuff to buy'

Offline Coen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2092 on: October 16, 2021, 11:03 AM »
The new Midi I is a big PITA.... With the CTL 26 I just put it on manual on, attach dust extraction accessoire (eg Bosch GDE 162) to the wall, then start drilling with drill attached to CTL outlet. Now with the Midi I... it turns the vac off once I turn the drill off and the GDE 162 drops to the floor.

Grr!

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2093 on: October 16, 2021, 11:10 AM »
Second; this Sys^3 is bullsh*it. Mounted on top of the Midi, the handle sticking out makes the whole thing wider and so harder to store, ride or carry around.

Welcome to the club. I have hated them since day-one.
I'm not opposed to change in general, but only if it makes sense. Change merely for the sake of change or without a clear improvement is just costly with no benefit for either them or us.
I have a lot of time and effort invested in the size and arrangement of my storage cabinets for Systainers, which are all based on the 32mm increments of the system holes. They threw that out the window.
The only one I have, so far, is with the RO125 and I am not particularly looking forward to more.
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2094 on: October 16, 2021, 11:17 AM »
The new Midi I is a big PITA.... With the CTL 26 I just put it on manual on, attach dust extraction accessoire (eg Bosch GDE 162) to the wall, then start drilling with drill attached to CTL outlet. Now with the Midi I... it turns the vac off once I turn the drill off and the GDE 162 drops to the floor.

Grr!

So the tool-trigger overrides the manual on switch? because it is a push button rather than a turning knob?
I am looking to get a second extractor and trying to decide on either the Mini or the CT15. I'm not 100% sure I want to give up the bluetooth, but also not sure if it's that big of a deal on a secondary machine?
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OF1010
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400 holey, FS1900, FS3000
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RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation

Offline squall_line

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2095 on: October 16, 2021, 02:31 PM »
The new Midi I is a big PITA.... With the CTL 26 I just put it on manual on, attach dust extraction accessoire (eg Bosch GDE 162) to the wall, then start drilling with drill attached to CTL outlet. Now with the Midi I... it turns the vac off once I turn the drill off and the GDE 162 drops to the floor.

Grr!

So the tool-trigger overrides the manual on switch? because it is a push button rather than a turning knob?
I am looking to get a second extractor and trying to decide on either the Mini or the CT15. I'm not 100% sure I want to give up the bluetooth, but also not sure if it's that big of a deal on a secondary machine?

I'm curious about this.  I'll test this afternoon.  I have the hose-mount remote and used that to turn my MIDI-I on and off when using the drill dust extraction.  I have the BT batteries but since I knew I needed to precisely position the extraction to use the stop collar, I opted to use the hose remote instead to have two hands available.

Offline notenoughcash

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2096 on: October 16, 2021, 03:02 PM »
yes, using a mains tool on a new style midi turns off after 5 seconds, if you have turned it on manualy at the machine.  not so much with bluetooth.  i find it quite useful for my sander.  have it set high 4 track saw, then plug in sander turn on, set power to low, then fire up sander (plug hose in as well), and then you can stop and start without the vac wailing away in the background and shouting off the neighbours....
turns out that woodworking is 1% making things you'll use, 4% making bespoke high end firewood, 15% cleaning, and 80% looking for the bl**dy thing you just put down
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Offline squall_line

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2097 on: October 16, 2021, 03:10 PM »
The new Midi I is a big PITA.... With the CTL 26 I just put it on manual on, attach dust extraction accessoire (eg Bosch GDE 162) to the wall, then start drilling with drill attached to CTL outlet. Now with the Midi I... it turns the vac off once I turn the drill off and the GDE 162 drops to the floor.

Grr!

So the tool-trigger overrides the manual on switch? because it is a push button rather than a turning knob?
I am looking to get a second extractor and trying to decide on either the Mini or the CT15. I'm not 100% sure I want to give up the bluetooth, but also not sure if it's that big of a deal on a secondary machine?

I'm curious about this.  I'll test this afternoon.  I have the hose-mount remote and used that to turn my MIDI-I on and off when using the drill dust extraction.  I have the BT batteries but since I knew I needed to precisely position the extraction to use the stop collar, I opted to use the hose remote instead to have two hands available.

@Crazyraceguy :

Here are my setup and test results:

CT-MIDI-I
Bluetooth Remote button on hose
T-18+3 with 3.0 aH Bluetooth battery

1. Plugged in CT-MIDI-I (note: I never turn off the power switch on my MIDI-I)
2. Pressed MAN button on hose remote, MIDI cycled on.  Pressed MAN button on remote again, MIDI cycled off (this is normal and proved that it was working)
3. Pressed "pair" button on the remote button.  Pulled trigger on T-18, MIDI cycled on after ~1 second.  Released trigger, MIDI cycled off after ~3 seconds (this is normal)

T-18 Trigger:
4. Pulled trigger on T-18, MIDI cycled on after ~1 second.  Released trigger, MIDI cycled off after ~3 seconds (again, normal)

MAN Button on control panel:
5. Pressed "MAN" button on MIDI control panel.  MIDI cycled on.
6. Pulled trigger on T-18, Bluetooth receiver lit up on MIDI.  Released trigger, Bluetooth receiver light extinguished after ~3 seconds.  MIDI remained running.

MAN button on remote:
7. Pressed "MAN" button on remote.  MIDI cycled on.
8. Pulled trigger on T-18, Bluetooth receiver lit up on MIDI.  Released trigger, Bluetooth receiver light extinguished after ~3 seconds.  MIDI remained running.  Pressed "MAN" on remote again, MIDI cycled off.

I ran steps 5 & 6 three times, and 7 & 8 three times, and could not get the MIDI to cycle off after releasing the drill trigger when it was started with the MAN button on the control panel or on the remote button.

So the short answer for a drill shroud is to get the remote button for the hose end and use that to turn the MIDI on and off, or use the control panel if you can get to it.  The remote button is a $40 answer, but usable for so much more than this limited situation.


Also, I see now that the drill in question was plugged in to the MIDI.  I'm not surprised that the corded version shuts off the MIDI when the drill stops; there's no true "Manual" mode on the new MINI/MIDI.

Offline Coen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #2098 on: October 16, 2021, 07:15 PM »
So not just the Systainer was made worse... the CTL's too. I might just return this ridiculous thing on their 14 day warranty. That new control panel is probably bloated with firmware anyway... so they should have not chosen to make it act in a way that makes no sense or at least given the user the option.

And yes drilling happens corded and cordless. But even if I use a cordless drill, I still don't want it to turn off when the battery charger that is attached to the CT finishes...

I don't have anything with Bluetooth and definitely am not gonna buy a €40 remote to work around something they messed up. I also share my vac with family that is used to the behavior of CTL 22 and CTL 26... so even if I get used to it, stuff will still drop to the floor.

Or maybe I will call Festool and have this handled as a 'free repair'... see what they have to say about that.

But first I'm gonna check the manual. Let's see if this dumb behavior is excused in any way.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 02:00 AM by Coen »