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Offline Cheese

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1500 on: February 20, 2020, 11:12 AM »
I had to google that word. For this project; yes. I guess it's more economical to just buy a dedicated machine for that, but I like the wider cut here (used a thin jigsaw blade; the 1.4mm) and the guiding options.

I tend to want to own "the whole set" in most cases. But it was definitely a buy that is gonna be on the expensive side in €/hour used...

Thanks for that... [smile]  I guess I'll pass and just put the Festool jigsaws down the road. I also get nervous when something becomes discontinued because of possible future needs.

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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1501 on: February 20, 2020, 12:48 PM »
Bosch used to sell this jigsaw stand aka inversion table.

It works great with Bosch saws. They have slots at the back of the shoe which engage tabs in the table so just one screw clamp (included )needs to be tightened to secure the tool. Another included clamp secures the table to a bench.

It’s great for cutting small stuff that you need to see clearly and since an ordinary blade pulls the swarf below the surface the marks on the workpiece are not obscured.

Wolfcraft made a generic version in stamped steel which uses four J shaped hold downs and screws to secure whatever jigsaw.

Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1502 on: February 20, 2020, 01:09 PM »
Just a few thoughts about the CMS MOD BS 120  that I missed getting... I noticed that for a periode when the MFS was announced discontinued in the states, many went out of their way to get the template system. Now over two years after it's plentiful and easy to get a hold of in the EU. and the UK, so maybe that will be the case with the CMS system as well. I for one vote for the CMS system continues to be sold as is and gets expanded even. It's light and easily transportable and stores easily. The CMS tabel elements er impervious to rust mostly.

As for the MOD BS 120 unit, it's list price has been high all along and that makes it hard to justify for casual use. If it remains scarce and I have the jobs where stationary Beltsander is needed I'd probably go for the Axminster Trade AT150BS Belt Sander seems like a worthy contestant for that function in my shop. It has serious specs and is more useful in that it can be used both horizontally and vertically. The table can be tilted and is substantially built. The footprint of the machine would match the CMS GE where I could just as well  build a self made stand for Axminster beltsander or just camp it to a workbench.

« Last Edit: February 20, 2020, 06:48 PM by PreferrablyWood »
Vecturo OSC, BHC SDS, RO 150, 850 HL E Planer rustic head standard head angle fence, MFS 400x2, MFS extensions MFS VB 700 x 1 MFS VB 1000 x 2 . CMS GE, sliding fence, VB and 2x VL extension tables, OF 2200, Accessory Set ZS OF 2200 M,36mm 5m antistatik hose, CMS OF+ CMS TS 75 insert modules. SYS-MFT Fixing-Set,  3.5m sleeved hose, Syslite duo, Sys 4 sort 3 x3, Sys Roll, Sys 1 Box x2 , classic Sys 3-Sort 4, classic Sys 3 Sort 6 x2, Sys Cart x3 Systainer 4 x2  as toolbox with selfmade inserts Systainer 5 as toolbox with insert.
Festool 18V HKC 55 Li 5.2 EB Plus FSK 420,FSK 250, Extra blade for the HKC 55 W32.TI 15, CXS 2.6 Ah version, RO 90 DX, PDC 18/4 plus DC UNI FF depth stop chuck,AD 3/8 square socket holder FF chuck, Centrotec Bits; -->Bit holder and bit selection BHS 65 CE TL 24x, ,Bradpoint DB WOOD CE SET ,Zobo (Forstner) D 15-35 CE-Zobo SET ,Masonary/stone bits DB STONE CE Set,Extender BV 150 CE, Countersink QLS D2-8 CE Hook turner HD D18, end centrotec<--.  TS 75 EBQ, PSC 420, OF 1010, RS 300 EQ, CTL Midi, MFT 3, Parf dogs x2pair +Bench dogs x2pair, FS 1080, FS 1900 .  will get Domino DF 700 XL,  CMS insert BS 120 Belt sander.

Offline Coen

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1503 on: February 20, 2020, 06:01 PM »
I had to google that word. For this project; yes. I guess it's more economical to just buy a dedicated machine for that, but I like the wider cut here (used a thin jigsaw blade; the 1.4mm) and the guiding options.

I tend to want to own "the whole set" in most cases. But it was definitely a buy that is gonna be on the expensive side in €/hour used...

Thanks for that... [smile]  I guess I'll pass and just put the Festool jigsaws down the road. I also get nervous when something becomes discontinued because of possible future needs.

Well, Festool has like 7 years parts guarantee, so you can still buy it for years to come.

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1504 on: February 20, 2020, 06:22 PM »
@Cheese - I think you should give the jig saw insert a chance if you’re curious.
They can be had from eBay. Now having both VL and GE tables I think the CMS-VL MFT/3 is better for CMS-OF (It is wider and therefore can accommodate for example UG wings from Kapex, or extension table from MW1000 to serve as outfeed table (GE table is too short, with fences going wider than the length of GE table))
And the CMS-GE would suit the jig saw and TS modules. Both these, and maybe especially the CMS-PS 300 are perfect in the VL table. If one removes the jig saw blade it doubles as a widened workspace. I’m having a go with a small customisation tomorrow with the CMS-PS 300 (not the module itself) I’ll post tomorrow if I can get at it  [smile]
For me, i foresee the convenient use of this for small cuts normally best done on a band saw (which I don’t have, yet) but not needed. It will be very handy to just put in a saw blade and go - the table just sits there...

Offline niky1

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1505 on: February 21, 2020, 07:08 AM »
MFK 700 EQ-Set ....  [smile]
TS 55 EBQ, 2 x FS 1400/2, FS 800/2, PS 420 EBQ - Plus,  OF 1010 EBQ - Set + accessories, CXS Li 1,3 - Set, CXS Li 2,6 - 90 Limited Edition, DF 500 Q-Set + SORT-SYS DOMINO, set  ZOBO system, SYS 1 CE-SORT, PDC 18/4 Li 5,2 Set, SURFIX SYS3-SET, RTS 400 REQ-Plus + SYS-STF 80x133 + HSK-A 80x130, MFT 3 + SYS-MFT fixing set + FSZ 120, FSZ 300 + Veritas Parf Dogs, CMS-TS 55 R Set + all accessories, DOMINO  KV-SYS D8, KS 120 UG-Set KAPEX + all accessories, ETS EC 150/5 EQ-Plus + D27/22 x 3,5 m AS-GQ in SYS 3 T-LOC, CMS-OF, CMS-PS, OF 2200 EB-Set, LR 32-SYS, MFS 700, FS 2424/2-LR 32, MFK 700 EQ-Set, MFS-FS, MFS-VP 200, MFS-VP 400, FS 1400/2-LR 32.........

Offline Cheese

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What Festool Did You buy Today...A SYS³ ORG M
« Reply #1506 on: February 21, 2020, 11:38 AM »
A SYS³ ORG M with 22 partitions, 204853.




Bott manufactures the containers. Notice what I assume to be a label slot on 2 sides of each box. Bott probably provides labels that will slide into the slots. A nice touch.  [big grin]




A Systainer attaches nicely to the top of the SYS³.




However, not so nicely to the bottom of the SYS³ which will probably be the normal mode. [sad] [sad]  I can't imagine the sound that a van full of these interconnected Systainers will be making as the handles are swinging and banging over bumps and around corners.




So I took a handful of #4 lock washers that are .014" thick and placed them in a single Bott box.




I closed the lid, turned the SYS³ upside down and vigorously shook it in all directions 30 times. Not even one of the thin washers left the container. You can see several of them resting on the upper ledge of the Bott box but none left their home.  [big grin] [big grin]


Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1507 on: February 21, 2020, 12:13 PM »
Apparently Festool will also carry these labels  [smile]:
« Last Edit: February 21, 2020, 12:15 PM by FestitaMakool »

Offline Cheese

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1508 on: February 21, 2020, 12:24 PM »
Apparently Festool will also carry these labels  [smile]:

Thanks for that... [smile]  They're not yet on the Festool USA website.  [sad]

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1509 on: February 21, 2020, 12:48 PM »
Probably will follow soon with the SYS3 ORG
Actually, the very last one M size I bought from a Swedish dealer, I noticed these lying in a pile on the floor - asked if these were meant for the new SYS3 ORG M and L
They didn’t even think of suggesting them to me when I had picked all the insert sizes and their last M size case.. sooo.. maybe their meant “to be discovered”  [big grin]

Offline Gregor

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1510 on: February 23, 2020, 08:05 AM »
Apparently Festool will also carry these labels  [smile]:
Which, according to the label, cause Cancer and Reproductive harm.

I think I'll pass.

Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1511 on: February 23, 2020, 08:46 AM »
Apparently Festool will also carry these labels  [smile]:
Which, according to the label, cause Cancer and Reproductive harm.

I think I'll pass.

You probably have to eat them or sit in a room breathing the fumes of them burning to get hurt !

Peter

Offline Peter Halle

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1512 on: February 23, 2020, 09:13 AM »
I suspect that warning is now also included on tubes of latex caulking.  Go read one.

Peter

Offline Cheese

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1513 on: February 23, 2020, 09:41 AM »
Well, the P65 Warning has been on drill bits for the last several years...never figured out how that worked.   [huh]    [huh]




Offline Alex

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1514 on: February 23, 2020, 10:56 AM »
The State of California is completely going overboard these days with their concerns and warnings. If they are so concerned why not forbid these chemicals to be used? They can't, society would collapse.

Is there a chemical these days that isn't found to be dangerous in some way? Some people have died from drinking water. Is our chemical problem going to be solved by simply adding a warning label ? No.

It would require severe government regulation to achieve that. But they can't, because suddenly people wouldn't be able to make all those wonderful things we make and revert back to a medieval level of technology.

@Gregor, the chemicals that warning is about are found in EVERY piece of plastic inside your home. You should be more concerned about that bottle with water or cola you drink than about a box for your screws.

Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1515 on: February 23, 2020, 11:22 AM »
The State of California is completely going overboard these days with their concerns and warnings...


State of California warnings are so ubiquitous these days that everyone just ignores them.  To me it sounds like warnings that too much sitting on a plane is a stroke risk.  Or maybe like all the warnings on ads for prescription meds.  You don't stop flying, you take other precautions like making sure that you get up couple of times during the flight.  Or you take the meds, but keep a watch out for the evil side effects.  If these risks weren't manageable, why would California allow you to use it at all?  This is CYA stuff so that lawyers can't sue the companies that make the products on the grounds that they didn't tell you things could go wrong.  You've been warned - now go out there and buy some more Systainers.  But now that you've been warned, you can't sue Festool if you get cancer unless you can show that they were grossly negligent with regard to describing the risks.


Offline jobsworth

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1516 on: February 23, 2020, 01:31 PM »
To All

Please no politics. Id hate to have the mods shut this thread down.

Lets agree that there is now a warning label for whatever reason and go on.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2020, 01:36 PM by jobsworth »

Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1517 on: February 25, 2020, 11:29 PM »
Of 1400 router and LR 32 system set. 
TS-75, LR32, OF-1400, TSO GRS16PE,  TSO TPG-20, TPG-30, TPG Adapter

Offline phase3

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1518 on: February 25, 2020, 11:58 PM »
I ordered the Mobile Workshop 1000 today.

But that's just today. I've got the LR 32 hole 55" rail on order. (I'm wondering why Festool even makes the same-length rails without holes, but that's a gripe for another thread.)

Newbie here. First post on the forum. I've been lurking here and buying Festools since only last November when I was remodeling an old house to become a rental, where there were plenty of straight lines but absolutely NOTHING had a square corner to it, so the TS 55 and rail were completely the perfect solution. Well, for that reason as well as that my circular saw at the time was my father's 1970's Craftsman that was shooting sparks from the motor housing every time the electronic brake engaged. Super powerful saw, but... not so safe in that old house. Plus I was spending way too much time setting up jigs to get the old dog to cut along the line I wanted.

Anyhoo -- I'm apparently addicted now. No question. Oh yeah, I also bought a CT Midi 1 so I wouldn't come home all covered in sawdust, Azek, styrofoam, everything. That was another point of bliss.
I'm prepping for another house remodel, doing even more of the work myself this time, and I'm starting with nearly zero tools.
In the last couple months I've bought:
MFT/3
1400 router (Last week; I haven't even set it up yet)
ETS/3 sander (and a whole lotta paper. OMG this sander is fantastic.)
clamps, rail guides, etc. (some of which is great, some of which is really not)

So here's the real addiction -- I really really like that Sys3 case above. (Thanks for the photos!!) Puts my stack of Stanley parts organizers to shame.
And in my workshop I'm staring at my pile of stupid tool bags and blow-molded cases, thinking "ugh what a disaster" and wondering if I can hold off long enough for the Systainer3 stuff so I can build my shelf units mostly with Bott rails instead of drawers. (But where are those rails anyway? They seem to be vaporware.)

So there y'go. Another person hooked.
And I need a bigger workshop. But who doesn't?  [big grin]

Cheers,
Peter

Offline Cheese

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1519 on: February 26, 2020, 11:02 AM »
A rebating head, router/spindle attachment & an extra set of replaceable carbide inserts. This item can be used on a 1400 or 2200 router for rebating or jointing. The rebating head is machined from aluminum.

The interesting thing is that for all of those folks that question the power of the 1010 router...this rebating head was originally designed to be used in a 1010 router. The head is 50 mm in diameter and 30 mm tall.

The router/spindle attachment for the 1400 & 2200 routers was released after the fact.   [huh]







Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1520 on: February 26, 2020, 11:34 AM »
That’s on my list too... and thank you for not sharing the price, yet [blink]
I believe that the OF 1010 would cope, though with slower feed through.

Offline jobsworth

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1521 on: February 26, 2020, 12:26 PM »
@Cheese

I brought one of those back with me when I lived in the UK. Love it. You will need a 21mm(I think) wrench to tighten it.

Funny its the only think FT makes that requires a spindle. For the price of it you'd think there would be more uses for the spindle

Offline phase3

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1522 on: February 26, 2020, 06:50 PM »
Some of my orders came in. I can now start learning the LR 32 stuff hands-on!   :)

- 1400mm guide rail WITH LR 32 holes (I'm still perplexed why Festool missed the obvious marketing upsell by handing me this with my Emerald Edition TS 55, instead of a 1400mm rail with no holes.)

- Edge guide for the OF 1400

- Rail stop for the OF 1400

I'm quickly running down the Festool "rabbet" hole!


Offline jobsworth

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1523 on: February 26, 2020, 06:58 PM »
PreOrdered that Festool cutting table.

Its to cool not to.

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1524 on: February 26, 2020, 09:12 PM »
STM1800

Offline Joelm

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1525 on: February 26, 2020, 10:13 PM »
I ordered a Syslite II Set from Amazon since my local dealers only had the Syslite II. Now I'm wondering if the magnetic attachment is worth the wait.

Also pre ordered the STM 1800.

Offline Cheese

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1526 on: February 26, 2020, 10:27 PM »
@Cheese

I brought one of those back with me when I lived in the UK. Love it. You will need a 21mm(I think) wrench to tighten it.


Thanks for the heads-up @jobsworth ...I assumed the wrench for the 1400/2200 would work, boy was I wrong.  [sad]  Those wrenches are 24 mm and the router/spindle needs a 22 mm wrench. Worse yet, the 22 mm SK wrench I have is too thick to fit the collet. That makes sense as the SK wrench is designed to remove all types of tightened & rusted bolts and not just deal with router collets. I'll have to locate a thin 22 mm wrench. I'm sure Snap-On has one.

Other notes of interest, a photo of the rebating head showing that Festool balances these things at the factory...a nice touch.
[big grin]




The thickness issue with the SK wrench and the spindle nut.




Pleasantly surprised that the full width of the rebating head can be used. I was worried that the full 30 mm width was not available for possible jointing applications.




Curious if anyone has had any issues with the table insert as it is proud of the table by .012"-.024"?




Offline jobsworth

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1527 on: February 27, 2020, 10:45 AM »
@Cheese

Once you attach the spindle to the cutter, I found that you can hand tighten the spindles collet to the router then use small Cresent wrench to remove.

I was also thinking of buying a cheap harbor freight wrench and grinding it down to fit. but using my method above it didnt need to. Became though bc those blades are very sharp

If done gently it doesnt damage the spindles collet. If you use a larger wrench you will round over the flats on the spindles collet and have to use something like a bench grinder to make the flats flat.
Dont ax me how I know that  [wink]

It really is a cool accessory. the blades are resharpenable though I brought extra home with me. Really shines when using it to joint boards on the CMS router table.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2020, 10:49 AM by jobsworth »

Offline threesixright

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1528 on: February 27, 2020, 01:23 PM »
Pre-ordered the TKS-80  [cool]

That will be a long wait.... [big grin]

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: What Festool Did You buy Today?
« Reply #1529 on: March 08, 2020, 04:34 PM »
@Cheese
Mine does not, that’s the OF 1400 hanging under there:


« Last Edit: March 08, 2020, 04:39 PM by FestitaMakool »