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Offline bobtskutter

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2022, 10:54 AM »
This is almost a text book example of viral advertising.
 [big grin]
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2022, 11:12 AM »
There is a dual power site saw.  It will run on line current or batteries.  I cannot recall who makes it though.  One of the majors—I don’t remember which.

Metabo HPT makes one, rst has one and likes it a lot.

Not up on Dewalt stuff but I think they also have a dual power saw.

I too think it highly unlikely that this new saw has Sawstop tech but the form is certainly drool worthy.

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2022, 01:02 PM »

I'm also guessing that as a German manufacturer, Festool Europe would use a German semi tractor - either M.A.N. or Mercedes-Benz.


I called it. That's a 2021 M.A.N. TGX18.470. Peering through the pixels, it looks like they've covered up the truck logo with a Festool banner.

Just thought I'd throw that in there. Anyway - the saw .........






« Last Edit: October 03, 2022, 01:07 PM by woodbutcherbower »

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #63 on: October 03, 2022, 01:13 PM »
Watching the video again from the first post it looks like the dial controls both blade height and angle. Press one of the buttons to switch between the two. Rotating the dial is whole degrees or height in mm, press and turn the dial for tenths of a degree or mm.

Looks like it might have some memory presets too. That would be handy to return to a specific blade height and angle.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2022, 01:21 PM by Bob D. »
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Offline Packard

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2022, 01:31 PM »
There is a dual power site saw.  It will run on line current or batteries.  I cannot recall who makes it though.  One of the majors—I don’t remember which.

Metabo HPT makes one, rst has one and likes it a lot.

Not up on Dewalt stuff but I think they also have a dual power saw.

I too think it highly unlikely that this new saw has Sawstop tech but the form is certainly drool worthy.

I think Dewalt’s multi- voltage saw means it can use batteries of different voltage’s within their system, not battery and line voltage. I’m not sure though. 

Offline woodferret

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2022, 01:32 PM »
I think the sawstop is a moot point.  It's a CS line with a tiny blade meant for trim and laminated flooring work.  You're not going to get close enough...

Now I've said that, someone's going to remove the guard and try to cut box joints with it or mitered splines :)

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2022, 01:35 PM »

    • Oh, and how much money does a kidney sell for these days? (asking for a friend)


    no kidney bank in the uk only a liverpool [big grin]

    Offline Cheese

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    Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
    « Reply #67 on: October 03, 2022, 01:38 PM »
    I called it. That's a 2021 M.A.N. TGX18.470. Peering through the pixels, it looks like they've covered up the truck logo with a Festool banner.

    Just thought I'd throw that in there. Anyway - the saw .........

    (Attachment Link)


    That MAN truck logo reminds me of the MACK truck logo. Similar in spirit.  [smile]

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    Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
    « Reply #68 on: October 03, 2022, 03:11 PM »
    I seem to remember talk of a AC adapter for the DeWalt FlexVolt Tablesaw when it came out a couple years ago. Might have been vaporware but it was mentioned in some of their ads.

    Nope, as I write this I now recall it was for the FlexVolt Mitersaw, not the tablesaw.
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    Offline ryan_k

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    Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
    « Reply #69 on: October 03, 2022, 03:31 PM »
    I seem to remember talk of a AC adapter for the DeWalt FlexVolt Tablesaw when it came out a couple years ago. Might have been vaporware but it was mentioned in some of their ads.

    Nope, as I write this I now recall it was for the FlexVolt Mitersaw, not the tablesaw.

    It's real and exists in the wild.  That saw is a dual 60V battery that runs at 120V so the AC adapters job is pretty simple for North American market.

    Offline Packard

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    Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
    « Reply #70 on: October 03, 2022, 03:58 PM »
    This comparison includes a review of the Metabo saw, which uses both line voltage or batteries.  It is the last saw that they review.


    Offline smorgasbord

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    Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
    « Reply #71 on: October 03, 2022, 04:25 PM »
    Comparing rpms without any compensation for blade diameter is not a good approach.

    Offline Packard

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    « Reply #72 on: October 03, 2022, 05:19 PM »
    I posted the video for the sole purpose of identifying the job site saw that offered both battery power and plug in power in one saw.  That was the Metabo.  I was not referencing any specific qualities other that the power option.

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    « Reply #73 on: October 03, 2022, 05:30 PM »
    I posted the video for the sole purpose of identifying the job site saw that offered both battery power and plug in power in one saw.  That was the Metabo.  I was not referencing any specific qualities other that the power option.

    Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you were.

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    Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
    « Reply #74 on: October 03, 2022, 05:49 PM »

      • Oh, and how much money does a kidney sell for these days? (asking for a friend)


      no kidney bank in the uk only a liverpool [big grin]

      How long have you been holding onto that?  Just waiting for the prefect moment.[/list]
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      Offline Bob D.

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      Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
      « Reply #75 on: October 03, 2022, 06:19 PM »
      I seem to remember talk of a AC adapter for the DeWalt FlexVolt Tablesaw when it came out a couple years ago. Might have been vaporware but it was mentioned in some of their ads.

      Nope, as I write this I now recall it was for the FlexVolt Mitersaw, not the tablesaw.

      It's real and exists in the wild.  That saw is a dual 60V battery that runs at 120V so the AC adapters job is pretty simple for North American market.

      Yes, the mitersaw exists, but as far as I know (and I looked on DeWalt site earlier today) the FlexVolt TS can not use the 120V adapter which is a shame.
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      Offline guybo

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      Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
      « Reply #76 on: October 03, 2022, 06:53 PM »

        • Oh, and how much money does a kidney sell for these days? (asking for a friend)


        no kidney bank in the uk only a liverpool [big grin]

        How long have you been holding onto that?  Just waiting for the prefect moment.[/list]
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        Offline chiudesign

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #77 on: October 04, 2022, 01:14 PM »
        I want this saw so badly. There are so many options for mini table saws with sliding arms in the UK and AU.
        I wonder if they will do a Router table in a Systainer format.
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        Offline rst

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #78 on: October 04, 2022, 04:06 PM »
        Metabo is brushless also.

        Offline tobiaskurz

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #79 on: October 05, 2022, 02:30 PM »
        I recently found a video from a so called CSC SYC 50 EBI



        It looks like a cordless table saw that can be stored in a special systainer housing. According to the name the saw has a cutting depth of 50mm offers electronics a break and has bluetooth integrated. The video although shows that the depth and angle settings are electronic controlled.

        Has anyone further informations on this upcoming Festool equipment?

        Offline woodbutcherbower

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #80 on: October 05, 2022, 02:48 PM »
        Hi Tobias,

        There's already an extensive thread on this machine;

        https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/what-do-you-think-70104/

        Kevin

        Offline tobiaskurz

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #81 on: October 05, 2022, 03:15 PM »
        tanke you.
        I run a quick search on the fog before but surprisingly got no results.

        Offline woodferret

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #82 on: October 05, 2022, 08:32 PM »
        Don't knock yourself.  I don't think any of us mentioned it by name.

        edit: Just to tag it, it's CSC SYS 50 EBI (video title is wrong as can be seen in the pic itself)
        « Last Edit: October 06, 2022, 02:39 PM by woodferret »

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #83 on: October 06, 2022, 12:36 AM »
        Merged two topics on this.

        Seth

        Offline mino

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #84 on: October 06, 2022, 04:47 AM »
        This is no carpentry saw. That one is clear.

        Looks like all the rumours of a "Shaper saw" were true indeed. Just not what anyone expected. Pretty confident the software and electromechanics are from the Shaper know-how.

        Having a tracksaw system, the biggest advantage of a tablesaw is precise work on small pieces - exactly what this tool shall address.


        IMO a great product to complement the tracksaw series. We just need a TS85 or the HK 85 being more accessible for the US folk and one is fully covered. Only shame is the CT-SYS cannot take the 8Ah bats ... but I guess this is expected to be paired more with the CTC Mini/Midi.

        For those complaining of battery-only - just think how long a TSC lasts on one charge. I see no issue /except cost/ with this even in one-man-shop use. Quite the contrary. Any cord avoided in a small shop is a blessing.


        That said, my smell test says this is a patent-rich thingie. We are not likely to see similar product from the competition for the next 20 years ..
        « Last Edit: October 06, 2022, 05:37 PM by mino »
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        Offline Nowhere

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #85 on: October 06, 2022, 05:17 PM »
        A youtube comment says it will be €2400 excl taxes.

        Would almost be perfect for me, besides the cordless part. I have some corded FT tools but no cordless. Using a pickup (with shell), stacking is quite important so also wondering how the trolley works storage wise.

        Offline ElectricFeet

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #86 on: October 12, 2022, 04:57 PM »
        Watching the video again from the first post it looks like the dial controls both blade height and angle.
        What I found really neat is that you set the height, then as you change the angle, the blade extends to compensate. So whatever angle you choose, you know it will still stay the same height, without getting a calculator out or resetting the height a second time.

        (I’m not a tablesaw expert, so I’m not sure if this is available elsewhere — I’ve never seen it.)

        There are a lot of really well thought-out features here, especially for such a small form-factor.

        I have no space (European city; whaddyagonnaddo) so my shop is all living out of systainers. I’ve been looking for something this size for a long time. I had a Proxxon FET, but gave it away after christening it “Aproxxon” in despair. I now have a Byrnes Model saw and it’s amaaaazingly accurate, but it’s very tiny.

        This new machine hits my tech / precision/ size buttons all at once.

        Offline Svar

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #87 on: October 12, 2022, 08:29 PM »
        The sliding table needs to be all the way to the blade. Why? Cutting tapers on narrow pieces, such as chair leg.
        Come on, Festool, this is not difficult. There is a number of portable saws with sliding tables, all have the same flaw.

        Offline mino

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        « Reply #88 on: October 12, 2022, 08:44 PM »
        The sliding table needs to be all the way to the blade. Why? Cutting tapers on narrow pieces, such as chair leg.
        Come on, Festool, this is not difficult. There is a number of portable saws with sliding tables, all have the same flaw.
        Put an aluminum plate or a ply plate on and there you go?

        I guess the top of the table could be extended, but it WILL cut from cut capacity (sic). Maybe just 5mm or so. But it is not free.

        To me this was a no-go here. It seems they were somehow limited with the blade dia - vibrations possibly - so the cut capacity is pretty low as it is.

        On the other hand. An official accessory plate that would attach to extend the table and a shim on the body may be possible - if there is the market.
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        Offline Coen

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        Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
        « Reply #89 on: October 13, 2022, 04:02 AM »
        They should standardize this powertool Bluetooth communication already. Or stop calling it Bluetooth, as it implies cross-brand compatibility, which in this case it does not have.