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Offline Cheese

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2022, 09:28 AM »
[poke] [poke] [poke] C'mon @Cheese I know your memory isn't that good. Share the screen captures or video you saved.

You're right Matt...my memory isn't that good.  [smile]  I was busy working on some CMS modifications yesterday and started to watch the video but decided I'd watch it later, just happened to write the name down "just in case". I know what can happen on this forum.  [smile]

Returned to watch the video last night...gone.

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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2022, 09:30 AM »
Suuuuure likely story. Well here ya go:

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2022, 09:39 AM »
It did look like it was a small group of possibly Festool employees and Festool related people. On the other hand it was clearly being demoed at an event set up, in front of a paint store / hardware store. So not exactly the best idea if your trying to be secret.  [blink]  [huh]

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Ya stealth wasn't exactly their first priority...I think I remember seeing the Festool roadshow truck in the video.

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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2022, 10:44 AM »
Did they mention finger-saver tech in the saw?

I have a little-used DW jobsite saw, about the only thing that'd make me replace it would be a ~$1K SawStop (I'm familiar with their new offering) with the slider. For that, I might consider overlooking the friggin' batteries.

Not that I expect it to be anywhere near $1K.

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Offline guybo

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2022, 07:34 PM »
....and so it begins

Offline luvmytoolz

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2022, 07:40 PM »
Did they mention finger-saver tech in the saw?

I have a little-used DW jobsite saw, about the only thing that'd make me replace it would be a ~$1K SawStop (I'm familiar with their new offering) with the slider. For that, I might consider overlooking the friggin' batteries.

Not that's I expect it to be anywhere near $1K.

RMW

I watched the video before it disappeared, and from what I could see, it looked to me like there was no room for the finger saver tech. Could be wrong though but it was a pretty compact unit.

Offline Laminator

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2022, 10:10 PM »
To me, it looked very sophisticated which = pricey.  It might be in Erika range....

Offline smorgasbord

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2022, 10:19 PM »
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Offline Coen

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2022, 11:06 PM »
No, that is a completely different product.

The video showed a Festool battery powered saw table that was housed in a custom Systainer.

It was French spoken, so didn't really pay attention.

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2022, 02:21 AM »

I think I remember seeing the Festool roadshow truck in the video.


It wouldn’t have been that International Lone Star one in France, @Cheese - even if Festool had paid $zillions to get it over here from NA. US trucks are of absolutely no use in Europe because of regulations limiting the length of the overall truck/trailer rig. That’s why every semi in Europe is hauled by a short-length cabover - to maximise trailer capacity within the overall maximum rig length. In NA, the only restriction applies to the length of the trailer on its own - so it can legally be hauled by a semi tractor with a bonnet (hood) the length of a football field, and an apartment-block-sized sleeper cab bolted to the back. I once saw a video about a guy who had a custom stretched Kenworth which was almost as long as his trailer. I'm also guessing that as a German manufacturer, Festool Europe would use a German semi tractor - either M.A.N. or Mercedes-Benz.

Plus - if you zoom in on the pic, the guy sitting with his back to the camera is wearing a baseball cap and holding a beer. He therefore has to be American  [big grin] [big grin]
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Offline ghhsolutions

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2022, 04:40 AM »
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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2022, 08:00 AM »

I think I remember seeing the Festool roadshow truck in the video.


It wouldn’t have been that International LoneStar one, @Cheese - even if Festool had paid $zillions to get it over here from NA. US trucks aren’t legal for use in Europe because of regulations limiting the length of the overall truck/trailer rig. That’s why every semi in Europe is hauled by a cabover - to maximise trailer capacity within the overall maximum rig length. In NA, the only restriction applies to the length of the trailer on its own - so it can legally be hauled by a semi tractor with an apartment-block-sized sleeper cab. I once saw a video about a guy who had a custom stretched Kenworth which was almost as long as his trailer.

Plus - if you zoom in on the pic, the guy sitting with his back to the camera is wearing a baseball cap and holding a beer. He therefore has to be American  [big grin] [big grin]

It's actually as easy as looking at the license plate on the bumper. That length-width ratio in not even close the the European size.
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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2022, 08:06 AM »
Suuuuure likely story. Well here ya go:



I like the digital display showing the blade height and angle to tenths of a degree.
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Offline luvmytoolz

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« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2022, 08:07 AM »
US trucks aren’t legal for use in Europe because of regulations limiting the length of the overall truck/trailer rig.

Well they definitely wouldn't like some of the rigs we have for long haul across OZ then!

Offline Cheese

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2022, 09:01 AM »
Plus - if you zoom in on the pic, the guy sitting with his back to the camera is wearing a baseball cap and holding a beer. He therefore has to be American  [big grin] [big grin]

LOL...Ya I took that at the Festool Road Show when Betterly's hosted it about 4 years ago. The same folks that produce these items.






Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2022, 10:42 AM »

Well they definitely wouldn't like some of the rigs we have for long haul across OZ then!


Big mistake to put on a roadtrain pic like that for a Brit truck nerd who's addicted to 'Outback Truckers' @luvmytoolz  [big grin]

I see that some of the roadtrains for mine haul applications around Pilbara have now gotten so huge that the manufacturers are using an additional 600-horsepower engine slung underneath one of the trailers.

Back on topic - I don't understand Festool's apparent reluctance to get potential buyers excited about a new product, unless it's still in the developmental stage and is still a long way off. I believe (rightly or wrongly) that these occasional glimpses of what's to come are a surefire way of generating interest. My TS60's coming in November - I ordered it just from seeing the promo video.

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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2022, 11:03 AM »
Suuuuure likely story. Well here ya go:



I like the digital display showing the blade height and angle to tenths of a degree.

Yea, but you still have to set the miter gauge the old-fashioned analog way...  [poke]

How can I possibly get the correct 19.7 degrees I need for that cut?

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Offline ChuckS

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2022, 11:32 AM »
How can I possibly get the correct 19.7 degrees I need for that cut?

Not sure how the saw actually works as the video is not in English, but if it has an overriding feature, an inclinometer should do the job.

Offline Richard/RMW

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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2022, 11:35 AM »
How can I possibly get the correct 19.7 degrees I need for that cut?

If it was not apparent, that was meant as irony. Or sarcasm. I get mixed up sometimes. [smile]

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Offline ChuckS

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2022, 11:39 AM »
Haha. You got me.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2022, 10:32 PM »
I was excited when I first started to watch. Learning it uses batteries completely rules it out for me.
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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2022, 12:53 AM »
For anyone interested, I did some sleuthing on where this presentation likely took place:


Now the real questions are:
  • When will Festool officially announce it in other countries?
  • Which countries/markets will it be available in and when?
  • What will it cost?
  • Will there be an option to plug it into the AC power grid via an adapter similar to the one they offer for some sanders?
  • Oh, and how much money does a kidney sell for these days? (asking for a friend)



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Offline luvmytoolz

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2022, 03:35 AM »
Good detective work!

I know it runs on batteries, but darn it is so cute!

I hate to think what the RRP will be for us in OZ when it finally releases!

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« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2022, 06:21 AM »
Oh, and how much money does a kidney sell for these days? (asking for a friend)

[welcome] & nice start on your FOG cred!

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2022, 06:33 AM »
I would love to have this saw in my small basement shop where I don't have room to park an AC powered table saw full time.

With the stand this can fold up and sit in the corner until needed then be set up fairly quickly. And when I head out to work away from the shop it can travel with me.

I hope this makes it to the North American market.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2022, 09:00 AM »
Good job on the spelunking.  [thumbs up]

I'll add one more question, does it incorporate a SawStop brake cartridge?

Like Bob, I'd love to have one of these in the basement, put the Bosch down the road and regain some valuable room.  [smile]

Offline Packard

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2022, 09:22 AM »
There is a dual power site saw.  It will run on line current or batteries.  I cannot recall who makes it though.  One of the majors—I don’t remember which.

Offline squall_line

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« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2022, 09:49 AM »
I hate to think what the RRP will be for us in OZ when it finally releases!

Unfortunately even in OZ you only have two kidneys, and you need at least one.  [eek]

Offline guybo

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« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2022, 10:11 AM »


I'll add one more question, does it incorporate a SawStop brake cartridge?
For those who know does the cartridge require a constant power supply@120v,however i think it would have been demo in the video.I reposted one of the four iphone videos of the event in my opening post about 14 min.

Offline GregorHochschild

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Re: upcoming Festool CSC SYC 50 EBI
« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2022, 10:23 AM »
I think the answer is no SawStop brake. Someone on the Facebook group commented that the SawStop technology relies on a ground connection so it's not possible with a battery powered saw. But I am just repeating what I read somewhere else. Someone else might have a better understanding...



I'll add one more question, does it incorporate a SawStop brake cartridge?
For those who know does the cartridge require a constant power supply@120v,however i think it would have been demo in the video.I reposted one of the four iphone videos of the event in my opening post about 14 min.