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Offline Bob D.

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What's New for Festool in 2020
« on: December 25, 2019, 04:37 AM »
Was looking through the what's new on FestoolUSA and found this worktop template.
I don't recall it being discussed here.

APS900/2

https://www.festool.com/products/new-products/new-products/204219---aps-9002#/

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Offline Bob D.

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2019, 04:42 AM »
Or this new Systainer Organizer

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Offline Cheese

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2019, 09:36 AM »
That template has been around for a long time. I never needed it but I assumed it was just NAINA.

The Systainer organizer is on my hit list once it's released after the first of the year.

Offline Bernmc

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2019, 01:50 PM »
A price increase is a definite  ;)

Offline ForumMFG

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2019, 02:06 PM »
I am really hoping the new impact driver gets released.  You can go on the festool germany website, download the 2020 catalog, and see what is new.   Nothing crazy.   Systainer 3 is the biggest.

Offline Svar

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2019, 02:09 PM »
A price increase is a definite  ;)
That's not new, that release it every year.  [big grin]

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2019, 02:30 PM »
A price increase is a definite  ;)
That's not new, that release it every year.  [big grin]

Pssst.  There wasn't a price increase in the US in 2019.  Don't tell anyone because nobody noticed.

Peter

Offline Bob D.

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2019, 05:58 PM »
I believe the worktop template was in the US catalog.
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Offline xedos

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2019, 05:28 AM »
I'll bet you can count on one hand the number of worktop templates for mason's miters that have been sold in the U.S. 

Guys that work on kitchens or countertops that can afford this gear generally don't work on projects with laminate tops. So there's no need.  The guys that's specialize in this type work would likely have an aneurism when they see the price of just the jig.

This type jig seems to have favor in the UK but I see more from Trend. 

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2019, 07:12 AM »
I just discovered that Festool might have a new compact sliding bevel attachment for their new TKS 80 Saw Stop.
From what I am able to judge it may also fit retrospectively to existing CS 70 and CS 50 saws.
This may open som alternatives for making a bearing supported sled, and makes the sliding bevel very compact.. [smile]
See photo:

Offline Bob D.

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2019, 09:37 AM »
I hope to make it to the Baltimore Woodworking show the weekend after
New Years. Festool has been there in the past but I don't see them on
the exhibitors list this year. I'll probably go on Friday as I have prior
engagements with family lined up for Saturday and Sunday.

http://www.thewoodworkingshows.com/baltimore.html
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Offline yetihunter

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2020, 01:54 AM »
A price increase is a definite  ;)
That's not new, that release it every year.  [big grin]

Pssst.  There wasn't a price increase in the US in 2019.  Don't tell anyone because nobody noticed.

Peter

Only going to make this year’s mega increase that much more noticeable.  At least they have a completely obvious excuse to do it this time around. 

Meanwhile, I’m looking forward to the new slimline parts bin systainers, the impact driver and possibly a new updated RAS.


Offline Roachmill

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2020, 05:02 AM »
Meanwhile, I’m looking forward to...and possibly a new updated RAS.

Have I been living in a cave? I know there's a new TS, impact and systainers coming... but an updated RAS? The 115 is most certainly NAIUK and the 180 is discontinued but limited stock can still be had so there is a big gaping hole for something new. Care to spill any info you have hinting at what may be coming? Pretty please ;)

Offline yetihunter

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2020, 06:19 AM »
Meanwhile, I’m looking forward to...and possibly a new updated RAS.

Have I been living in a cave? I know there's a new TS, impact and systainers coming... but an updated RAS? The 115 is most certainly NAIUK and the 180 is discontinued but limited stock can still be had so there is a big gaping hole for something new. Care to spill any info you have hinting at what may be coming? Pretty please ;)

Pure speculation on my part.

Offline Roachmill

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2020, 06:22 AM »
Ah, OK then. I'll stand down the excitement level a notch. An update to the 115 would be great. Or just re-release it and I'd be happy.

Offline Cheese

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2020, 11:16 AM »
My understanding is that the RAS was never a real popular item in the US lineup to begin with. @Peter Halle mentioned that he saw pallet upon pallet of new RAS tools at the Festool US facility.

I purchased a new RAS from Woodcraft in July 2019 and it had a build date of Dec 2016.   [eek]

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2020, 11:26 AM »
Talking to a well respected FT rep, He said the price of the impact will be competitive with others on the market . The new grinder well thats another story. If the impact is reasonably priced Ill brobally get one.

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2020, 12:07 PM »
My understanding is that the RAS was never a real popular item in the US lineup to begin with. @Peter Halle mentioned that he saw pallet upon pallet of new RAS tools at the Festool US facility.

I purchased a new RAS from Woodcraft in July 2019 and it had a build date of Dec 2016.   [eek]

The RAS was unpopular at times and the popular at others , but it was getting old.  The reason I saw pallets upon pallets in the warehouse is because they had just arrived from overseas.  I would venture a guess that based on manufacture dates of the tools mentioned here that perhaps they had been sitting in Germany for some time.

Offline TinyShop

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2020, 10:13 AM »
This one seems to have slipped through the cracks:

Old SYS-RB (495020):



New SYS-RB (204869):

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ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [n], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos]

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Offline cpw

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2020, 10:22 AM »
New SYS-RB (204869):
That looks interesting, I wonder if it will handle a TLOC MIDI, which the current ones can't have on bottom.  I would expect this product is in response to the two Systainer 3 sizes which would have similar issues.  The move to a tloc from the side locks might make it more convenient, but I don't trust the tlocs quite as much to hold a heavier stack while navigating over a step.  I've never had one fail, but they don't feel quite as solid.

Offline TinyShop

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2020, 12:56 PM »
Was looking through the what's new on FestoolUSA and found this worktop template.
I don't recall it being discussed here.

APS900/2

Following up on what others have already said, the counter router template (APS900/2) was another outcome of Festool's purchase of GEAT. As well, that same purchase resulted in what would go on to be renamed the MFS.

Here's the predecessor to the APS900/2 as it originally appeared on the respective page of the GEAT website:


 
ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [n], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos]

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Offline neeleman

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2020, 02:35 PM »
New SYS-RB (204869):
That looks interesting, I wonder if it will handle a TLOC MIDI, which the current ones can't have on bottom.  I would expect this product is in response to the two Systainer 3 sizes which would have similar issues.  The move to a tloc from the side locks might make it more convenient, but I don't trust the tlocs quite as much to hold a heavier stack while navigating over a step.  I've never had one fail, but they don't feel quite as solid.

From what I've seen it will hold all T-Loc and Systainer3, including Midi and Systainer3-L.
They all fit because the systainer sits on top of the cart instead of inside with the old one.
But no Classic systainers anymore.
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Offline mcooley

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2020, 05:27 PM »
So where is the US listing for this new systainer? I can't find it. Thanks.


Offline ForumMFG

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2020, 05:29 PM »
Not out yet, from what we have heard else on this forum, maybe 2nd quarter, possible 3rd it will be out for sale


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Offline mcooley

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2020, 05:33 PM »
Okay but I thought I saw somewhere saying January 2020.

Offline Gregor

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2020, 07:06 AM »
As a note about the new organizer: the boxes are incompatible with the ones from the SYS-COMBI / SORT/3 / TOOLBOX, which are already incompatible with the colored boxes from before (measurements taken from here):

Classic colored: 49mm grid, 71mm height
SORT/3 (2015): 60mm grid and 71mm height
Systainer³ (2020): 50mm grid, 69mm height

Great festool 'system'. Not.
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« Last Edit: January 11, 2020, 07:24 AM by Gregor »

Offline JimH2

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Re: What's New for Festool in 2020
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2020, 09:09 AM »
As a note about the new organizer: the boxes are incompatible with the ones from the SYS-COMBI / SORT/3 / TOOLBOX, which are already incompatible with the colored boxes from before (measurements taken from here):

Classic colored: 49mm grid, 71mm height
SORT/3 (2015): 60mm grid and 71mm height
Systainer³ (2020): 50mm grid, 69mm height

Great festool 'system'. Not.
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There is no excuse for the 2nd format much less this 3rd one.