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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #301 on: February 14, 2022, 01:04 PM »
And here it ishttp://http://www.youtube.com/shorts/01fTj4zdHgE

Yeah that's Dino's design.

https://kouroscarpentry.com/

I'm keeping a close eye on it. I want one but I don't $299 want one.
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Offline zachjowi

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #302 on: February 14, 2022, 03:38 PM »
BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

Offline cider

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #303 on: February 15, 2022, 02:11 PM »
Been following this thread for a while and appreciate the info shared here.  Another data point: I ordered a system late last December and it arrived today from BIS.

Offline JINRO

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #304 on: February 15, 2022, 04:42 PM »
I just ordered SE1 and SE2.  I couldn't find pump for sale anywhere... but thanks to FOG members I can use different pump to work with it. 

-Upon reading this thread, looks like "Vaneer Excel 3 Pump" works with SE units.  Is this the site I can make purchase? (https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Excel-3-Continuous-Run-Vacuum-Press-System.html)

-Is "Excel 3" 120V? or 240V?

-Is "Excel 5" too powerful? it's 5.0 cfm.

-Thankfully one of the member in this thread listed extra parts I will need for the setup. Is there any instruction video or steps I can follow for setting up SE1 and SE2 with this pump?

I can't wait to use them for my shop and thanks for making this work guys! :)

« Last Edit: February 15, 2022, 05:43 PM by JINRO »

Offline Domino11

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #305 on: February 15, 2022, 05:54 PM »
I just ordered SE1 and SE2.  I couldn't find pump for sale anywhere... but thanks to FOG members I can use different pump to work with it. 

-Upon reading this thread, looks like "Vaneer Excel 3 Pump" works with SE units.  Is this the site I can make purchase? (https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Excel-3-Continuous-Run-Vacuum-Press-System.html)

-Is "Excel 3" 120V? or 240V?

-Is "Excel 5" too powerful? it's 5.0 cfm.

-Thankfully one of the member in this thread listed extra parts I will need for the setup. Is there any instruction video or steps I can follow for setting up SE1 and SE2 with this pump?

I can't wait to use them for my shop and thanks for making this work guys! :)
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You can use any of the 3 pumps they offer. I went with the Excel 3 as it was happy middle ground.  The Excel 1 is just a bit better specs then the Festool.  The Excel 3 has even more CFM which is nice.  I can hold very porous wood (MDF) with out issue.
 The Excel 5 is even better, but at some point, it's a "how much money do I need to spend". 
Again all 3 will work.  Just get what fits your budget + that  one fitting I posted previously.
The Pump comes with Very good detailed directions and photos to setup everything.
The ONLY step that is different from their directions, is the very last step you will screw in that MALE HiFlow Fitting I gave links to previously in this thread, instead of the quick connect that comes included with the pump.  It is literally that simple.  And it will be super obvious to you when you are putting it all together.  Promise.
Connecting the Vacsys setup is no different.  100% Plug-n-Play.
 

Offline JINRO

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #306 on: February 15, 2022, 05:57 PM »

...Connecting the Vacsys setup is no different.  100% Plug-n-Play.


Thanks so much for detailed explanation! :) I added some more questions regarding Veneer pumps. Are they all 120v for US use?
Excel 5 seems only $50 from Excel 3. I guess I'll go with 5 :)

Offline Domino11

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #307 on: February 15, 2022, 06:57 PM »

...Connecting the Vacsys setup is no different.  100% Plug-n-Play.


Thanks so much for detailed explanation! :) I added some more questions regarding Veneer pumps. Are they all 120v for US use?
Excel 5 seems only $50 from Excel 3. I guess I'll go with 5 :)
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From what I can see, they are all 120v  USA  plugs.

FYI, for detailed instructions:  EXCEL PUMP Instructions

Offline Domino11

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #308 on: February 15, 2022, 06:59 PM »


Forgot to mention these Excel pumps are super compact, quiet and light weight.  Little Pocket Dynamo.


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Offline JINRO

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #309 on: February 15, 2022, 07:05 PM »


Forgot to mention these Excel pumps are super compact, quiet and light weight.  Little Pocket Dynamo.


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Just Ordered Excel 5! :) Total cost of SE1+SE2+Pump came out similar to Set combo from Festool. Now I'm all set with Festool collection! (yeah right...)

Thanks so much for your help! Would you mind if I reach out to you when I have any question setting them up? :P

Offline batmanimal

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #310 on: February 15, 2022, 08:39 PM »


Forgot to mention these Excel pumps are super compact, quiet and light weight.  Little Pocket Dynamo.


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Just Ordered Excel 5! :) Total cost of SE1+SE2+Pump came out similar to Set combo from Festool. Now I'm all set with Festool collection! (yeah right...)

Thanks so much for your help! Would you mind if I reach out to you when I have any question setting them up? :P

Have confidence, my dude. You have everything you need to figure out how to do this yourself. Once the parts are in front of you it will become quite obvious. 

Offline afish

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #311 on: February 15, 2022, 08:40 PM »
Smart move for $50 the 5 will help with more porous wood with 2 heads and if you ever start vacuum bagging it will help draw down the bag faster.  Depending on the size of the bag it can take a bit. 

Offline JINRO

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #312 on: February 16, 2022, 07:46 AM »
Have confidence, my dude. You have everything you need to figure out how to do this yourself. Once the parts are in front of you it will become quite obvious.

Can't wait to receive my set! :) Quick question, do you know if I can get 4x4 vacuum head custom made anywhere? I deal with small wood crafting many times.  Smallest I see for alternative head is 200mm x 60mm.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #313 on: February 16, 2022, 08:59 AM »
Have confidence, my dude. You have everything you need to figure out how to do this yourself. Once the parts are in front of you it will become quite obvious.

Can't wait to receive my set! :) Quick question, do you know if I can get 4x4 vacuum head custom made anywhere? I deal with small wood crafting many times.  Smallest I see for alternative head is 200mm x 60mm.

You'll have to make up your own hoses and fittings but yeah you can connect whatever vacuum pump you bought to any vacuum clamp.

https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Podz-Vacuum-Clamping-Jigs.html

These are 4"x4".

You just need a way to couple from european high flow fitting (on the pump), using a quick connect, to whatever hose you adapt to work with the clamps.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #314 on: February 16, 2022, 09:08 AM »
Quick question, do you know if I can get 4x4 vacuum head custom made anywhere? I deal with small wood crafting many times.  Smallest I see for alternative head is 200mm x 60mm.

Make your own adapter from some plexiglass, phenolic or sealed MDF. The bottom of the adapter fits whatever head you want to use while the placement of the foam weatherstripping on the top of the adapter mimics what ever small piece you're crafting. A hole in the middle of the adapter completes the task.

Offline JINRO

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #315 on: February 16, 2022, 09:16 AM »
Quick question, do you know if I can get 4x4 vacuum head custom made anywhere? I deal with small wood crafting many times.  Smallest I see for alternative head is 200mm x 60mm.

Make your own adapter from some plexiglass, phenolic or sealed MDF. The bottom of the adapter fits whatever head you want to use while the placement of the foam weatherstripping on the top of the adapter mimics what ever small piece you're crafting. A hole in the middle of the adapter completes the task.

Makes perfect sense! :) I guess I'll use some plastic plate cutout in shape of oblong head and hole out the middle in 4 inch diameter.
Thanks so much! :)

Offline JINRO

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #316 on: February 16, 2022, 11:36 AM »
You'll have to make up your own hoses and fittings but yeah you can connect whatever vacuum pump you bought to any vacuum clamp.

https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Podz-Vacuum-Clamping-Jigs.html

These are 4"x4".

You just need a way to couple from european high flow fitting (on the pump), using a quick connect, to whatever hose you adapt to work with the clamps.

Awesome! this is good gadget I can consider. Thanks! :)

Offline rst

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #317 on: February 16, 2022, 11:55 AM »
For 30+ years I've been using a $15.00 surplus 220v Gast HVAC pump.  My new shop does not as yet have electric installed so I bought a Robinair VacuMaster Economy Vacuum Pump - 2-Stage, 5 CFM from Amazon for about $200.00.  It works great.

Offline Runhard

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #318 on: February 16, 2022, 01:28 PM »
BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.
Daniel

Offline Domino11

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #319 on: February 16, 2022, 01:41 PM »
BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.
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You could also demand some compensation.......  SE2 + Footpedal in exchange for the Missing SC1 , instead of walking away and returning the entire thing.

Offline squall_line

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #320 on: February 16, 2022, 02:53 PM »
BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.
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You could also demand some compensation.......  SE2 + Footpedal in exchange for the Missing SC1 , instead of walking away and returning the entire thing.

Festool doesn't necessarily allow their dealers to operate in that manner, though, based on SKU tracking and other restrictions.

Offline papester

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #321 on: February 16, 2022, 04:01 PM »
BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.

Same thing happened to me. Waiting on an update. Ordered on 12/16/2021. Missing the SE1.

Offline Darius

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #322 on: February 16, 2022, 04:45 PM »
It will ship end of this month. I’m in a same boat.

BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.

Offline grobkuschelig

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #323 on: February 17, 2022, 05:11 AM »
Just teasing you guys who are still waiting for their SE1… ;)


Offline JINRO

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #324 on: February 17, 2022, 10:58 AM »
Smart move for $50 the 5 will help with more porous wood with 2 heads and if you ever start vacuum bagging it will help draw down the bag faster.  Depending on the size of the bag it can take a bit.

Just received Excel 5 and assembled it! I haven't received my SE1 or SE2 yet, but would this be the way I setup for them? I plugged in male plug I got separately. I haven't tightened them since I wasn't sure.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #325 on: February 17, 2022, 12:15 PM »
That looks correct to me. That's a nice looking pump.
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Offline afish

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #326 on: February 17, 2022, 12:30 PM »
just FYI those compressed air fittings are not really made for vacuum and most likely will leak.  You will probably never notice since I think that pump just runs all the time and has no automatic cut off as is.  The quick connects joe sells have been the best.  Zero leaks after about a month of use.  The ones he sells I believe are made for mold injection.  I tried finding a source and the only place I could find was more than he sells them for.  An automatic pump is handy when bagging.  I sometimes put something in the bag at the end of the day and leave it till the next morning.  Having a pump that cycles on and off automatically allows this.  He also sells everything you need to convert it to monitor and make it automatic if you ever decide too. 

Offline JINRO

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #327 on: February 17, 2022, 12:52 PM »
just FYI those compressed air fittings are not really made for vacuum and most likely will leak.  You will probably never notice since I think that pump just runs all the time and has no automatic cut off as is.  The quick connects joe sells have been the best.  Zero leaks after about a month of use.  The ones he sells I believe are made for mold injection.  I tried finding a source and the only place I could find was more than he sells them for.  An automatic pump is handy when bagging.  I sometimes put something in the bag at the end of the day and leave it till the next morning.  Having a pump that cycles on and off automatically allows this.  He also sells everything you need to convert it to monitor and make it automatic if you ever decide too.
Hi there, is this the one Joe sells? (https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Quick-Connect-Assembly.html) How do you connect this to Festool tube?

Offline Domino11

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #328 on: February 17, 2022, 12:56 PM »
Smart move for $50 the 5 will help with more porous wood with 2 heads and if you ever start vacuum bagging it will help draw down the bag faster.  Depending on the size of the bag it can take a bit.

Just received Excel 5 and assembled it! I haven't received my SE1 or SE2 yet, but would this be the way I setup for them? I plugged in male plug I got separately. I haven't tightened them since I wasn't sure.
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Nice.   

See....... Was pretty easy and straightforward,  right.  ;-)


Offline DynaGlide

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Re: VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?
« Reply #329 on: February 17, 2022, 01:09 PM »
@afish the fittings Festool uses are just regular old compressed air fittings  ;)

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