Anyone know why exactly the 'pump in Systainer' couldn't get UL certification?

Just wild speculation for the fun of it, but I'd guess it failed because the containing device could be easily opened while in use but couldn't be grounded.
Though that would make me wonder how the air compressors sold in systainers get certification... there must have been another piece to it.

They don't use the plug-it Cord but a 3-prong cable including ground.

My VAC SYS uses a plug-it cord.  Are you referencing something different?

Quote from: Coen on December 20, 2021, 11:01 AM

They don't use the plug-it Cord but a 3-prong cable including ground.

My VAC SYS uses a plug-it cord.  Are you referencing something different?

Nope, that's exactly what he was referencing (though he was talking about the air compressors when he said they don't use them). It was the speculation that the ungrounded plug-it cord was the reason that model of vac sys didn't get approved in the US.

Quote from: Coen on December 20, 2021, 02:30 PM

I was talking about the compressors in Systainer. But not sure on that one either now 

    I bought the VAC SYS compressor last year and it came as shown in the photo, complete with the two-conductor Plug-it cord.  It is the older Systainer and I had to use a different router template for the trays.

Nomenclature about whether a vacuum pump is technically also a compressor aside, I believe @Coen is talking about the Rolair AIRSTAK and/or Senco Compressor Systainer, both of which use a grounded IEC 320 C13/C14 connection.

Quote from: MikeGE on December 20, 2021, 03:12 PM

Quote from: Coen on December 20, 2021, 02:30 PM

I was talking about the compressors in Systainer. But not sure on that one either now 

    I bought the VAC SYS compressor last year and it came as shown in the photo, complete with the two-conductor Plug-it cord.  It is the older Systainer and I had to use a different router template for the trays.

Nomenclature about whether a vacuum pump is technically also a compressor aside, I believe @Coen is talking about the Rolair AIRSTAK and/or Senco Compressor Systainer, both of which use a grounded IEC 320 C13/C14 connection.

Yeah, so no class II on those.

Looks like I waited too long because I can’t find the set anywhere. I just got off the phone with shopfestool and they are out as well. Any suggestions?

I was able to place an order with BIS Festools-Online in case anyone else wants to place an order. They said that they have a few unspoken for.

Just placed pre-order with them as well.

Quote from: Runhard on December 21, 2021, 04:04 PM

Quote from: Runhard on December 21, 2021, 03:35 PM

Looks like I waited too long because I can’t find the set anywhere. I just got off the phone with shopfestool and they are out as well. Any suggestions?

I was able to place an order with BIS Festool’s-Online in case anyone else wants to place an order. They said that they have a few unspoken for.

Great!

I also ordered the accessory kit and mounting plate for the MFT. I was thinking about an extra foot valve but didn’t know what all was needed to control the two modules independently, if that’s even possible.

For independent control, you’ll need 2 foot valves.

Is that it, do I need more hose or fittings?

Is that it, do I need more hose or fittings?

It all depends upon how Festool offers the foot valve when it's sold as a stand-alone item. When bundled with the SE1, its semi/tethered to the SE1 and has the second port plugged.

However when it's sold on it's own...who knows what's needed. My guess would be that both ports are plugged to prevent contamination. However, that could then become an issue because the face gaskets that are needed for the port plugs/connectors are not available for sale.

You'll need to talk with Festool customer service to ascertain exactly how the foot valve is leaving the service department.

The standalone Foot Valve comes with one port plugged and the other with a length of hose attached. Basically the same way it comes with the SE1, just without the SE1 attached on the end of the hose.  The setup sheet that comes with the foot valve shows that you plug the black plastic fitting on the end of the hose into the SE module and it clicks into place.

That's how mine came, at least.  Sometimes these things change from one year to the next.

That's good to know because Festool has never specified exactly what is included with the foot valve. Is there a quick disconnect on the end of the hose?


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Quote from: squall_line on December 23, 2021, 12:34 AM

The standalone Foot Valve comes with one port plugged and the other with a length of hose attached. Basically the same way it comes with the SE1, just without the SE1 attached on the end of the hose.  The setup sheet that comes with the foot valve shows that you plug the black plastic fitting on the end of the hose into the SE module and it clicks into place.

That's how mine came, at least.  Sometimes these things change from one year to the next.

That's good to know because Festool has never specified exactly what is included with the foot valve. Is there a quick disconnect on the end of the hose?

I'll grab some pictures this evening and probably measure the hose as well.  There's no gray quick-disconnect, just a black plastic bayonet fitting.

That's good to know because Festool has never specified exactly what is included with the foot valve. Is there a quick disconnect on the end of the hose?

If I remember correctly it's not the large grey quick disconnect but there is something similar to the 1/4" water line quick disconnect on the back of the vacuum head.  You push in the retaining ring and pull out the hose with the plastic adapter tube.  To attach it you just push it in and it locks in place with a slight pull.

@squall_line Does that sheet with the foot valve have a parts breakdown with #'s? I'm interested in the little black plastic piece that goes into the tubing.

Edit nevermind it's 471568.

Funnily enough, it only came with a diagram for hooking it to an SE1 or a diagram to use the short hose with the valve to hook it to both an SE1 and SE2.  No exploded diagram or parts list like you would find with so many of their other products.

Thanks for that @squall_line ...that reminded me of how how the vac units are connected. I completely forgot about the connection down, underneath the bowels of the ship. Unseen by most persons. The Festo push-in connectors are great but they don't allow a lot of room for finger movement and fitting disengagement.

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