Author Topic: Trend Tool & Bit Cleaner (Read 17726 times)

mikeneron · « **on:** June 25, 2010, 12:10 AM »

Bought some of this today to try on my Festool TS55 blade. I sprayed it on a section of the blade and waited a few minutes and then used an old toothbrush to scrub it down as well as a cloth to wipe things down. It would probably even work better if you could submerge the blade right in the solution for several minutes and then scrub and wipe off. I only cleaned the bottom left quarter of the blade for these pictures. There were a couple spots where I couldn't get all the grime off, but they were pretty small. Overall, it worked better than I expected.

Before

After

Before Closeup

After Closeup

Festoolfootstool · « **Reply #1 on:** June 25, 2010, 03:17 AM »

I saw the video by accident when looking at the trend website I got the US site instead of UK. Thought I would buy some only to find they do not sell it here.

CO_JCD · « **Reply #2 on:** June 25, 2010, 04:00 AM »

Quote from: Festoolfootstool on June 25, 2010, 03:17 AM

Thought I would buy some only to find they do not sell it here.

I think they do sell it in the UK - I got a small bottle at D&M Tools.

Resin Remover and Cutter Cleaner. I am not sure whether I am putting in the link correctly, however here goes: http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.php/section//sn/TRERESIN100

I agree that it seems to work fine for cleaning TS55 and other circular saw blades.

John

Festoolfootstool · « **Reply #3 on:** June 25, 2010, 04:14 AM »

Quote from: CO_JCD on June 25, 2010, 04:00 AM

Quote from: Festoolfootstool on June 25, 2010, 03:17 AM
Thought I would buy some only to find they do not sell it here.

I think they do sell it in the UK - I got a small bottle at D&M Tools.

Resin Remover and Cutter Cleaner. I am not sure whether I am putting in the link correctly, however here goes: http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.php/section//sn/TRERESIN100

I agree that it seems to work fine for cleaning TS55 and other circular saw blades.

John

Hi John

I may be wrong but I t think the link you have put up is for a different product 100ml a tiny bottle.. the product on the US site is for 8 or 10 fluid oz

CO_JCD · « **Reply #4 on:** June 25, 2010, 04:47 AM »

They also do a larger 600ml version at the same place. Don't know whether it is the same or not - seems to be for the same purpose though. I just got the small, 100ml version first to try.

John

Festoolfootstool · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2010, 04:58 AM »

Hi John I went and had another look you could be right, it may be the same product. I need to remove some rust on my morticer and my pillar drill so the larger quantity looks good.I might phone trend and ask them.

thank you

Brice Burrell · « **Reply #6 on:** June 25, 2010, 08:06 AM »

Mike, thanks for sharing and next time clean your blade soon what do you.

Sean Ackerman · « **Reply #7 on:** June 25, 2010, 09:07 AM »

Has anyone ever put the Trend blade cleaner or the CMT cleaner up against everyday simple green or some sort of degreaser? I'm guessing results would be identical.

MarkF · « **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2010, 09:29 AM »

This is is copied from the Cleaning Tips section of Simple Green's site:
http://www.simplegreen.com/solutions_cleaning_tips.php?sid=202989&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=15&id=126&artlang=en

"Detailed Information: Blades, Carbide and Saw Blades Follow label instructions and safety information.

Simple Green has been successfully used by many woodworkers over many years as a good "spray - wipe - rinse" cleaner for saw blades. When pitch is fairly fresh (typically within a 12-hr period since deposit) it is fairly easily removed with Simple Green. Older, dried-out pitch is much more difficult to remove. We do not recommend long-term soaking of Carbide blades in Simple Green. Long-term exposure like this can possibly cause cobalt leaching that will, in turn, affect the integrity or carbide. Shorter term "spray/wipe/rinse" applications do not create that kind of problem. It has been reported to us that long-term soaking of carbide blades covered with older, tougher buildup of pitch in strong, black coffee does a great job of removing pitch without harming the blade. "

Strong black coffee....Hmmm?

Sean Ackerman · « **Reply #9 on:** June 25, 2010, 10:06 AM »

Hmmm. I had just had two cups of strong black coffee. Too bad, coulda used it to clean all the blades that are in for sharpening and cleaning!

Great info, thanks for posting.

Michael Kellough · « **Reply #10 on:** June 25, 2010, 10:07 AM »

Never heard the coffee tip.

So, what is "long term soaking"? How long is that?

I use Simple Green and other de-greasers and soak for maybe 15 minutes
but have no way of knowing if that causes any harm.

Rob-GB · « **Reply #11 on:** June 25, 2010, 11:39 AM »

Why not the famous brand of cola, it is always being shown as being great for cleaning coins!?

Pretty cheap and widely available

MarkF · « **Reply #12 on:** June 25, 2010, 11:44 AM »

Thinking like a Simple Green defense lawyer in a case where a claimant has a few pieces of carbide shrapnel in his forehead: Long term is anything longer than "Spray, wipe, rinse".

joiner1970 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 25, 2010, 11:50 AM »

You get Trend stuff in Canada

?

I thought it was only available here in the UK, most of their power tools are junk but I suppose they cannot get cleaner wrong

mikeneron · « **Reply #14 on:** June 25, 2010, 11:55 AM »

I actually lucked into finding it as I was picking something up from a local woodworking store and was checking their website for the address and they had a banner with the Trend cleaner on it. Quick google search and I watched the video and was interested. Then when I got there, they had a bottle of it out with some paper towel and a dirty saw blade. So while I was waiting, I sprayed a bit on the blade and then wiped. I was sold.

jvsteenb · « **Reply #15 on:** June 25, 2010, 11:57 AM »

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Why not the famous brand of cola, it is always being shown as being great for cleaning coins!?

Would be interesting to know what effect fosforic acid ( the rustbusting part in the aforementioned softdrink ) may have on the composition of sintered carbide parts....
It will ( eventually ) convert rust to fosfate - so the carrier ( blade ) might benefit.

Coffee contains some low density lipids, these might act as a solvent to the resinous gunk on sawblades.
These LDL's ( yes, they're the BAD lipids ) get filtered out when using filterpaper, so it may be necessary to use unfiltered coffee, or just use the leftover grit. Worth a try...

Regards,

Job

Rob-GB · « **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2010, 12:05 PM »

Quote from: joiner1970 on June 25, 2010, 11:50 AM

You get Trend stuff in Canada ?

I thought it was only available here in the UK, most of their power tools are junk but I suppose they cannot get cleaner wrong

Their jigs and router bits used to be great, still have and use a lot of them, but when they took on zeroxed Elu routers and the bean counters got a say in materials, they really lost the plot.

Rob.

Festoolfootstool · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2010, 12:13 PM »

I dont Know what they make themselves, if anything. their dust extractor is made by Fein,the t11 (with their own base)is made by the same company that makes the dewalt 625 I think most of their stuff is just re badged.

Rob-GB · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2010, 12:24 PM »

Quote from: Festoolfootstool on June 25, 2010, 12:13 PM

I dont Know what they make themselves, if anything. their dust extractor is made by Fein,the t11 (with their own base)is made by the same company that makes the dewalt 625 I think most of their stuff is just re badged.

At least when Festool re-badge something they have a say in quality, the Festool/Victorinox Knife I recieved is an excellent example. The level looks very well appointed too, but we can't get them here, apparently.

Festoolfootstool · « **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2010, 12:43 PM »

Quote from: Rob-GB on June 25, 2010, 12:24 PM

Quote from: Festoolfootstool on June 25, 2010, 12:13 PM
I dont Know what they make themselves, if anything. their dust extractor is made by Fein,the t11 (with their own base)is made by the same company that makes the dewalt 625 I think most of their stuff is just re badged.

At least when Festool re-badge something they have a say in quality, the Festool/Victorinox Knife I recieved is an excellent example. The level looks very well appointed too, but we can't get them here, apparently.

was the knife for finding something wrong with the newq website?

Rob-GB · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2010, 12:55 PM »

Yes. FFS, and I am using it on an almost daily need.

Rob.

greg mann · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2010, 01:00 PM »

Quote from: Sean Ackerman on June 25, 2010, 10:06 AM

Hmmm. I had just had two cups of strong black coffee. Too bad, coulda used it to clean all the blades that are in for sharpening and cleaning!

Great info, thanks for posting.

You may still have that coffee available. You just may need to 'recycle it.'

greg mann · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2010, 01:07 PM »

I think the cobalt leaching concern is way overblown. Carbide is a very stable material. I suspect the SG would have a noticeable effect on the steel body of the blade before it could negatively impact the carbide. I also believe one would need to apply extreme heat to act as a catalyst in any chemical reaction between a relatively benign cleaner like SG and carbide. No one would ever soak a blade long enough to do it any harm. I agree they are 'lawyering-up".

Festoolfootstool · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2010, 01:25 PM »

Quote from: Rob-GB on June 25, 2010, 12:55 PM

Yes. FFS, and I am using it on an almost daily need.
Rob.

Blerdy marvous I found something wrong also at the same time jrb and joiner71 found faults sent Festool a email and then nothing until this last week. just a thank you.I thought one would arrive in the post.no nothing emailed and have had no reply at all and I realy fancied one. disapointed

joiner1970 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2010, 01:41 PM »

Quote from: Rob-GB on June 25, 2010, 12:05 PM

Quote from: joiner1970 on June 25, 2010, 11:50 AM
You get Trend stuff in Canada ?

I thought it was only available here in the UK, most of their power tools are junk but I suppose they cannot get cleaner wrong

Their jigs and router bits used to be great, still have and use a lot of them, but when they took on zeroxed Elu routers and the bean counters got a say in materials, they really lost the plot.

Rob.

Yeah I have the small trend worktop jig that is good but I had two T5 routers and they were complete rubbish.

Festoolfootstool · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2010, 02:00 PM »

Quote from: joiner1970 on June 25, 2010, 01:41 PM

Quote from: Rob-GB on June 25, 2010, 12:05 PM
Quote from: joiner1970 on June 25, 2010, 11:50 AM
You get Trend stuff in Canada ?

I thought it was only available here in the UK, most of their power tools are junk but I suppose they cannot get cleaner wrong

Their jigs and router bits used to be great, still have and use a lot of them, but when they took on zeroxed Elu routers and the bean counters got a say in materials, they really lost the plot.

Rob.

Yeah I have the small trend worktop jig that is good but I had two T5 routers and they were complete rubbish.

I have loads of their gear two dust extactors t10 t11 prt router table 2xt5 door jig 1002 worktop drainer jig stair jig loads of clamp guides and two tons of assorted odd and sods.

I called you joiner71 in another thread dont know where that came from but I guess it make you younger

Tom Bellemare · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2010, 02:07 PM »

The CMT blade cleaner is designed to be left on, no rinsing. It also protects from re-rusting.

Tom

joiner1970 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2010, 03:30 PM »

Quote from: Festoolfootstool on June 25, 2010, 02:00 PM

I called you joiner71 in another thread dont know where that came from but I guess it make you younger

Yeah 40 this November found out Im just younger than Glastonbury festival its their 40TH this weekend, never been but if I had of known I might have gone this weekend

Dovetail65 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2010, 03:35 PM »

This is what I use and I purchased them( I have a few sets) when they periodically go on sale for 18.99, works great:

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=18197

I live in the USA and get some Trend tools, jigs and accessories, even Sears sells Trend. I am very happy with most of it.

Festoolfootstool · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2010, 03:47 PM »

Quote from: joiner1970 on June 25, 2010, 03:30 PM

Quote from: Festoolfootstool on June 25, 2010, 02:00 PM

I called you joiner71 in another thread dont know where that came from but I guess it make you younger

Yeah 40 this November found out Im just younger than Glastonbury festival its their 40TH this weekend, never been but if I had of known I might have gone this weekend

40? thats nuthin................. no mud bath this year

oh and the trend lock jig and letter box jig I forget what I have bought,just as well its all to scary

I will say trend customer service is superb