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Offline Jimmy69

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Router tables?
« on: September 08, 2020, 11:12 AM »
Hi,

I'm new to routers (recently purchased an OF1010) and I'm now interested in router tables. I've seen the likes of Incra, Jessem and woodpecker and they all look excellent. I'm in the UK so the price of those tables is at a premium. I'm wondering if there are any UK or EU made tables and accessories that are of comparable quality. It doesn't have to be mobile but can't be huge due to lack of space. Also has to be metric and accommodate the OF1010 if possible.

Many Thanks..

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Offline Jimmy69

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2020, 11:42 AM »
Actually, let's scrap using the OF1010 in a table and I'll go with something that does 1/2 inch

Offline Stan Tillinghast

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2020, 12:17 PM »
The Axminster Professional router table looks nice, but holy cow! $735 to US, 750 pounds to UK! It’s the VAT, I guess.

Offline Jimmy69

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2020, 12:31 PM »
I'm guessing the Axminster is uk made. Is the US price before tax?

I've just watched this video and I like the concept of using my MFT style bench with something like the Triton and Incra plate and a fence you can just drop in some dogholes.



Offline AstroKeith

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2020, 12:43 PM »
The Triton TRA/B001 is a real workhorse and designed for under table use. I have one and can thoroughly recommend it. I don't think it needs a lift plate, but a good fence will get you going nicely.
Retired engineer/scientist

Offline Jimmy69

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2020, 01:02 PM »
I'm guessing the Axminster is uk made. Is the US price before tax?

I've just watched this video and I like the concept of using my MFT style bench with something like the Triton and Incra plate and a fence you can just drop in some dogholes.


This video... 




Offline Roseland

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2020, 01:19 PM »
+1 for a Triton router.  I have the MOF001 and I've never found it wanting for power.

I bought a cheap router table from Rutlands and over the years have thrown most of it away; the legs weren't rigid and the fence wasn't straight or square.  I made a new base, with a box for the router to collect the dust, and I also made a fence.  Unusually my fence is connected to drawer runners under the worktop to keep it always parallel with the mitre slot.

If I was starting again and funds were tight I'd make a top out of 1" Baltic Birch ply, sandwiched between sheets of 9mm MDF.  I like the idea of a cast iron top, but they're just so heavy.

Andrew
TS55, MFT/3, OF1400, OF1010, CT26, RS100, ETS125, CXS, MFS400, DF-500, Zobos.

Offline Jimmy69

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2020, 01:35 PM »
The Triton TRA/B001 is a real workhorse and designed for under table use. I have one and can thoroughly recommend it. I don't think it needs a lift plate, but a good fence will get you going nicely.

Thanks. Any advice on fences? Being able to set up on an MFT table would be good.

Offline rjboch

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2020, 08:51 PM »
You could always make your own table. Mike Farrington (my favorite YouTube woodworker and Fine Woodworking contributor) has an excellent video 'Very Good Router Table' and plans available on his website.


Attaching link to his video (). Hopefully it works.

Re: Router tables?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2020, 12:39 AM »
Not to hijack the thread but I see the OP is acknowledging the Triton and the TWX7 is a router table for it so hopefully will benefit the OP as well.  So curious if anyone is using a TRA001 in the TWX7 workcenter with the router module?  I have a TRA001 in a not so great bench top home made setup as well as the guide rail adapter (which I use with Festool rails). 

I am intrigued by the TWX7 as it fits my overall goal of a collapsable workshop along with my MFT, possibly the STM 1800, and Triton Superjaws in the future.  Anyone using this setup or no longer using this setup with thoughts?

Offline MikeGE

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2020, 02:40 AM »
I had the full TWX7 setup, which included the table, contractor saw insert, router table insert with TRA001 router, mobility kit for the table, and the in and outfeed extensions.  I thought this would give me a decent kit for my garage shop that would also allow me to pack everything away and still park two cars. 

The TWX7 table was great.  It was sturdy and I could easily store it along one of the garage walls when not in use.  I was not as pleased with the contractor saw insert.  It was sometimes difficult to secure in the table and I could never figure out why.  However, once it was properly set up, it handled all of the sheet goods that I passed through it.  I used additional stands to support the plywood as I fed the sheets through the saw. 

The saw insert and router table insert shared the same flaw for me, which was repeatability of settings.  The miter and fence guide tracks in the TWX7 are on the table, not the inserts.  The rip fence for the contractor saw had to be removed in order to store the table, and it was always a gamble when re-installing it and having the previous calibration apply again.  I tried to arrange my workflow so all table saw operations were done without having to remove and re-insert the saw. 

I foolishly tried to make a crosscut sled for the saw, but failed.  The sled fit in the tracks of the table, but because there were always slight variations in alignment each time the saw insert was replaced, I was never able to achieve any accuracy with the sled.  As with the rip fence alignment, each setup required another round of adjustments and test cuts to ensure the fence or sled could make accurate cuts.

I never used the router table insert because I abandoned the garage shop in favor of a basement shop before I had a project for it.  The fence for the router is part of the router insert, which helps, but has a limited range of movement.  The dust collection above and below the insert appeared to be good, and I bought a kit from Rockler that had the hoses and fittings to allow the top and bottom dust ports to be connected to one vacuum.

The more I used the Triton Workcentre, the more I realized it is best suited as an on-site contractor setup.  I've seen videos where the system is used as the primary tools for a woodshop, but I decided it wasn't for me.  I gave away the complete set last month under the condition that it never returns.


Offline Chris Cianci

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2020, 07:17 AM »
Hi,

I'm new to routers (recently purchased an OF1010) and I'm now interested in router tables. I've seen the likes of Incra, Jessem and woodpecker and they all look excellent. I'm in the UK so the price of those tables is at a premium. I'm wondering if there are any UK or EU made tables and accessories that are of comparable quality. It doesn't have to be mobile but can't be huge due to lack of space. Also has to be metric and accommodate the OF1010 if possible.
 Hello,
If a router table is  new to you, you might consider picking up a router table from a contractor used, They often purchase a basic one for a particular build and might never use it again. I picked one up with a router for $30 Sure it’s not as nice or elaborate as the ones listed in the comments above but it’s an entry point until you see how much you use it. With a little hands on research you will learn what you like . You can always sell it if you buy it cheap enough OR you might just leave a round over bit in it even after you build or buy your dream router table so it’s one less set up and bit change you have to do
Best

Offline AstroKeith

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2020, 07:46 AM »
The Triton TRA/B001 is a real workhorse and designed for under table use. I have one and can thoroughly recommend it. I don't think it needs a lift plate, but a good fence will get you going nicely.

Thanks. Any advice on fences? Being able to set up on an MFT table would be good.
If you have your own homemade table, then perhaps look at the Axminster fence? https://www.axminstertools.com/ujk-technology-professional-router-table-fence-508273
It will fit directly on to the side tracks of an MFT, or it comes with tracks that you can use to add to your table.
I havent got this fence, but have a few UJK bits and they are good.

My own fence is a heavily modified fence from an old Triton router table.
Retired engineer/scientist

Re: Router tables?
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2020, 12:47 PM »
I had the full TWX7 setup, which included the table, contractor saw insert, router table insert with TRA001 router, mobility kit for the table, and the in and outfeed extensions.  I thought this would give me a decent kit for my garage shop that would also allow me to pack everything away and still park two cars. 

The TWX7 table was great.  It was sturdy and I could easily store it along one of the garage walls when not in use.  I was not as pleased with the contractor saw insert.  It was sometimes difficult to secure in the table and I could never figure out why.  However, once it was properly set up, it handled all of the sheet goods that I passed through it.  I used additional stands to support the plywood as I fed the sheets through the saw. 

The saw insert and router table insert shared the same flaw for me, which was repeatability of settings.  The miter and fence guide tracks in the TWX7 are on the table, not the inserts.  The rip fence for the contractor saw had to be removed in order to store the table, and it was always a gamble when re-installing it and having the previous calibration apply again.  I tried to arrange my workflow so all table saw operations were done without having to remove and re-insert the saw. 

I foolishly tried to make a crosscut sled for the saw, but failed.  The sled fit in the tracks of the table, but because there were always slight variations in alignment each time the saw insert was replaced, I was never able to achieve any accuracy with the sled.  As with the rip fence alignment, each setup required another round of adjustments and test cuts to ensure the fence or sled could make accurate cuts.

I never used the router table insert because I abandoned the garage shop in favor of a basement shop before I had a project for it.  The fence for the router is part of the router insert, which helps, but has a limited range of movement.  The dust collection above and below the insert appeared to be good, and I bought a kit from Rockler that had the hoses and fittings to allow the top and bottom dust ports to be connected to one vacuum.

The more I used the Triton Workcentre, the more I realized it is best suited as an on-site contractor setup.  I've seen videos where the system is used as the primary tools for a woodshop, but I decided it wasn't for me.  I gave away the complete set last month under the condition that it never returns.

Thanks Mike!  Exactly the info I've been looking for!

Offline Jimmy69

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2020, 03:04 AM »
Thanks for all the detailed info. I think I'll try to cobble something together at first and see how I get on. I'll make a plate for the OF1010 and get a basic fence. Once I have something my first task is to do some locked mitre joints in 18mm ply.

Offline mkasdin

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2020, 04:30 AM »
Lee valley has a portable router table. I thought they had plans for it? You could buy just the fence or the top? I would go with a cheaper router for mounting in a router table (Bosch) (Dewalt) so you could use the Festool without constantly returning It in under the table. I have the large kreg table and it’s very strong, but quite large. I bought just the frame so consequently never got around to finishing the top and fence.  Ughhhh. Kreg also makes a bench top model , readyto go for $250 and rockier can sell you a RT for every price point u dear the sun. If your feeling generous there’s the  Festool CMS-VL Router Table For $1,135* (router not Included). lol. Goood luck. Let us no what you do.? PS - BenchDog had a promax Benchtop router Table that was pretty nice, but small and pricey. They got absorbed by rockier and turned into plastic parts , but you might look at the design if your planning a build?
« Last Edit: September 12, 2020, 04:40 AM by mkasdin »

Offline derekcohen

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Re: Router tables?
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2020, 06:11 AM »
Thanks for all the detailed info. I think I'll try to cobble something together at first and see how I get on. I'll make a plate for the OF1010 and get a basic fence. Once I have something my first task is to do some locked mitre joints in 18mm ply.

Jimmy, if you are keen to build your own, I recently posted on the table/fence I built:   https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/other-tools-accessories/router-fence-recommendation/msg619003/#msg619003





There is still some work to do (mainly on the dust extraction, which will be similar to that on the Festool system), however you may get some ideas from it to motivate you along your path.

Regards from Perth

Derek
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