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Offline Cheese

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2021, 09:00 AM »
This is one of those tools where people who have used them appreciate what they do. It was not a mainstream tool like some of the other sanders and likely part of why Fesool discontinued it. just not enough sales volume to warrant it.

Like ScottF said, these were never a mainstream tool. See Peter Halle's input on Reply 98.

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Offline usernumber1

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2021, 12:37 PM »
i still don't get the RAS. why can't i just use a small belt sander. I imagine euros did just that

Offline cpw

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2021, 02:02 PM »
i still don't get the RAS. why can't i just use a small belt sander. I imagine euros did just that
I have used my RAS for coping molding, something I saw at the Festool road show at Tool Nut a several years ago.  I wouldn't try that with my belt sander.

Offline Cheese

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2021, 02:52 PM »
I got it as a hopeful alternative when Porter-Cable discontinued the baby belt sander.

Hey @Crazyraceguy...just curious if you've ever used ScotchBrite style non-woven web belts on the baby PC or know of a source for them?  I've been looking for years, could be an easy way to straight-line stainless or aluminum.  [smile]

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2021, 07:03 PM »
The RAS115 was my first Festool purchase.  In 2019 they discontinued this and I bought one at clearance price at $219, list $370.  I noticed these sell high, so I checked "sold" items on E-Bay.  It shows two that sold, one at $600 and one at $800 used.  I cannot see paying those prices, but just be aware that if  you find one at a decent price, be quick on getting it.  Good luck.

That is downright crazy. I bought mine in the late summer of '19, kind of on a whim. It was relatively inexpensive in the world of Festool and I hoped it could fit in. It did, but I had no idea that it would be discontinued so soon.
I just looked through my Amazon orders. $215 in October of '19. Now they sell used for 3 times the price?
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Offline morts10n

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2021, 10:32 PM »
Indispensabile for scribing...I use it all day long dor that

Offline ScotF

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2021, 12:16 AM »
A member who read this thread reached out to me and sold me his older unit. Should be getting here this week. I'm looking forward to trying it out. ;)

Let us know your thoughts once you try it. I hope it lives up to the hype for your use.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2021, 04:00 PM »
A member who read this thread reached out to me and sold me his older unit. Should be getting here this week. I'm looking forward to trying it out. ;)

Let us know your thoughts once you try it. I hope it lives up to the hype for your use.

I have to admit. .this thing is pretty darn cool for scribing. Easy to control and captures a good amount of dust, enough that I'd feel comfortable using it inside. I know it can do other things than scribe but that's what I wanted it for. It would've made fitting some filler strips and the countertop on my office a lot easier had I had it then. If it ever dies on me I suppose I'll replace it with a RA grinder and scribe outside.
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2021, 06:32 PM »
I got it as a hopeful alternative when Porter-Cable discontinued the baby belt sander.

Hey @Crazyraceguy...just curious if you've ever used ScotchBrite style non-woven web belts on the baby PC or know of a source for them?  I've been looking for years, could be an easy way to straight-line stainless or aluminum.  [smile]

No, I have never seen such a  thing for the little 2.5" x 14" belt sander. I was however glad to have a Klingspor Rep to service our shop, because he could get me belts for it easily. That long ago, I wasn't the Amazon user that I am now, and local purchasing was a joke. When they first hit the stores around here, it was only woodworking retailers. The big box places didn't carry them, so consumables were not readily available. Since I used it a ton, that was a big win. That little sander was the only tool that didn't have a "home", and sat out on a side table overnight. Everything else got "put away", into a specific drawer, toolbox or Systainer. The only time it ever went back into it's case was for road-trips.
When it started acting like it might give out on me, my boss bought me a new one. I took the old one home, so it would be around for much lighter use. It is still going and that "new" one got killed in the fire. That is/was the one tool that I wish I could have been able to replace and have not. Porter Cable discontinued them and I don't trust the Ebay market enough to risk it.
So far, the RAS115 has come through for me in every situation where the baby belt sander would have been the choice. But now it looks like it is doomed to the same fate?
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Offline Cheese

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2021, 09:33 PM »
When they first hit the stores around here, it was only woodworking retailers. The big box places didn't carry them, so consumables were not readily available.

Sorry... [off topic]

That's been the bane of the baby PC from it's birth...consumables were never consistently available even from Porter Cable. That and the heat it produces when you use it continuously for 10-15 minutes were the beginning of the death knell. Super convenient and it had nice ergonomics, light weight and was easy to handle but the factory support for it was nil.  [sad]

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2021, 08:25 AM »
When they first hit the stores around here, it was only woodworking retailers. The big box places didn't carry them, so consumables were not readily available.

Sorry... [off topic]

That's been the bane of the baby PC from it's birth...consumables were never consistently available even from Porter Cable. That and the heat it produces when you use it continuously for 10-15 minutes were the beginning of the death knell. Super convenient and it had nice ergonomics, light weight and was easy to handle but the factory support for it was nil.  [sad]

Exactly right. That little bugger would get quite hot if you ran it too long. I would often set it on the concrete floor, after a while, to hopefully pull some heat away from it. To some degree, I get that, it should not really be a big job thing. Get the bigger (proper) tool.
Right also about support. Why did they just throw it out there and then seemingly ignore it? They promoted the heck out of them in the beginning. There was often a full sized picture of one on the back cover of woodworking magazines for months before they became available. I asked about them in my local Woodcraft store long before they could get them, which is why I got the first one they could get. The Klingspor guy is probably what made it viable for me, but I used the heck out of that thing for years in a commercial/industrial environment.
It filled a niche, but apparently didn't sell enough? Maybe because of their own sabotage in the consumables? I liked it and would buy another one today, if I could.

The RAS115 is great too, I just wish it had the Plug-it cable.
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OF1010
OF1400
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Offline jimbo51

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RAS at Woodcraft
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2021, 06:48 PM »
I saw a RAS 115 on the display rack at Woodcraft in Downingtown PA.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Attention, Attention...rare RAS sighting
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2021, 10:30 PM »
I saw a RAS 115 on the display rack at Woodcraft in Downingtown PA.

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: RAS at Woodcraft
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2021, 02:34 PM »
I saw a RAS 115 on the display rack at Woodcraft in Downingtown PA.


I saw one in the stack of Systainers in my shop...   [big grin]   BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!   [big grin]
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: RAS at Woodcraft
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2021, 05:21 PM »
I saw a RAS 115 on the display rack at Woodcraft in Downingtown PA.


I saw one in the stack of Systainers in my shop...   [big grin]   BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!   [big grin]

Dibs  [big grin]
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Offline Cheese

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Re: RAS at Woodcraft
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2021, 08:54 AM »
I saw one in the stack of Systainers in my shop...   [big grin]   BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!   [big grin]

BA-HAHAHAHA!!!! and I'll raise you a BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!  [big grin]

Offline ScotF

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Re: RAS at Woodcraft
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2021, 12:01 PM »
I saw one in the stack of Systainers in my shop...   [big grin]   BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!   [big grin]

BA-HAHAHAHA!!!! and I'll raise you a BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!  [big grin]


I am glad I was not taking a sip of water when I read it...thanks for the chuckle! If I have two in my stacks, does that count for two BA- HAHAHAHA's?  [blink] ;D

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Re: RAS at Woodcraft
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2021, 12:27 PM »
I saw one in the stack of Systainers in my shop...   [big grin]   BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!   [big grin]

BA-HAHAHAHA!!!! and I'll raise you a BA-HAHAHAHA!!!!  [big grin]

I am glad I was not taking a sip of water when I read it...thanks for the chuckle! If I have two in my stacks, does that count for two BA- HAHAHAHA's?  [blink] ;D

    I managed to score one right after they were discontinued. So, Bwah Ha Ha on that. The thing is, I have used it sparingly...mostly for sculpting wood. I need to score a replacement "dust fringe" because mine broke into pieces a while back....interesting tool though.....I can check for availability when I return to work on Wednesday in the Woodcraft system if anybody is interested.... [eek]
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Offline Mike Goetzke

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2021, 12:51 PM »
I realize this is an older thread but when the RAS115e went on clearance it was perfect timing for this serious hobbyist. I was building several Adirondack chairs for our front porch. I purchased this "brown" treated lumber from my local Menards. The look was not very consistent so I needed to sand the surface a bit. The 115e was the perfect tool! Made quick work of the task and DC was pretty good. 

Offline Alanbach

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Re: RAS alternative?
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2021, 03:32 PM »
@jcrowe1950 - the metal bristled brush is Festool 484728 and the plastic bristled brush is 484727. So far Festool continues to make most of the accesories for the RAS 115 available in NA.