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Title: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: thedevme on February 21, 2019, 10:29 AM
I am looking for an online or Mac app for creating a plywood cutting diagram (example below).  The only one I am familiar with is https://www.cutlistoptimizer.com and I wanted to know if there were other sites people were using. I have looked and only found a few that I wasn't fully satisfied with or just wasn't sure it was worth the price. Please share with me what you use to create your own.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: Dick Mahany on February 21, 2019, 10:52 AM
I saw this one (http://cutlistoptimizer.com/) on another forum recently.  I haven't used it because I routinely make my own using Sketchup which is adequate for my needs.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: jobsworth on February 21, 2019, 12:34 PM
Does anyone know if sketch up is OS X compatible?
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: NChander on February 21, 2019, 12:42 PM
Yes, sketchup is available for both windows and mac platforms.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: Sparktrician on February 21, 2019, 12:55 PM
There is also MaxCut (https://www.maxcutsoftware.com/).  I've used Cutlist Plus (https://cutlistplus.com/), but the company is a royal PITA when one has to reinstall the product after a hard drive replacement or the like. 
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: thedevme on February 21, 2019, 01:00 PM
There is also MaxCut (https://www.maxcutsoftware.com/).  I've used Cutlist Plus (https://cutlistplus.com/), but the company is a royal PITA when one has to reinstall the product after a hard drive replacement or the like.

MaxCut and Cutlist Plus are both PC only of course lol
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: thedevme on February 21, 2019, 01:01 PM
I saw this one (http://cutlistoptimizer.com/) on another forum recently.  I haven't used it because I routinely make my own using Sketchup which is adequate for my needs.

Yes that the one I have in my post above lol.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: mdihle on February 21, 2019, 01:15 PM
I used to be a SketchUp guy using it with my Mac, but given the hefty cost of SU, I moved over to Autodesk Fusion and I have to admit I like it much better.  I had to convert over to the subtle differences between SU and Fusion but that was kinda like going from PC to MAC IMO.  Best yet - Fusion is free to woodworkers or anyone else does not use it for commercial use.  For me that worked great.  To buy Fusion was about the same price as SketchUp.

There is a free SketchUp online version - that is where I started, but when I wanted to print my plans i could not - which i wanted to do.

Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: usernumber1 on February 21, 2019, 02:14 PM
I used to be a SketchUp guy using it with my Mac, but given the hefty cost of SU, I moved over to Autodesk Fusion and I have to admit I like it much better.  I had to convert over to the subtle differences between SU and Fusion but that was kinda like going from PC to MAC IMO.  Best yet - Fusion is free to woodworkers or anyone else does not use it for commercial use.  For me that worked great.  To buy Fusion was about the same price as SketchUp.

There is a free SketchUp online version - that is where I started, but when I wanted to print my plans i could not - which i wanted to do.


is there some sort of a cut optimizer within fusion?
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: Sino on February 21, 2019, 02:19 PM
I use “ Sketchcut pro”.  Its for IOS. This app it not full optimized for iPhone x but it is amazing and works great. Doing the job very well.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: JimH2 on February 21, 2019, 07:08 PM
There is also MaxCut (https://www.maxcutsoftware.com/).  I've used Cutlist Plus (https://cutlistplus.com/), but the company is a royal PITA when one has to reinstall the product after a hard drive replacement or the like.

If you are PC: VMware or Virtual Box (free)
If you are Mac: Parallels or VMware or Virtual Box (free)

I use it to run PC only software on my Mac and in a prior life used it for Windows development testing. It is the only way to roll when you don't want the software installed on your computer and/or it has weird installation restrictions. Make a backup of it (it is just a file) and then restore to it if something goes south.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: NChander on February 21, 2019, 09:20 PM
I used to be a SketchUp guy using it with my Mac, but given the hefty cost of SU, I moved over to Autodesk Fusion and I have to admit I like it much better.  I had to convert over to the subtle differences between SU and Fusion but that was kinda like going from PC to MAC IMO.  Best yet - Fusion is free to woodworkers or anyone else does not use it for commercial use.  For me that worked great.  To buy Fusion was about the same price as SketchUp.

There is a free SketchUp online version - that is where I started, but when I wanted to print my plans i could not - which i wanted to do.

I use fusion for 3d printing and use Revit/Autocad/Max on a daily basis. My concerns with Fusion stem from the fact, while free, I don't own the file, it's in the Autodesk cloud, if/when they decided to make fusion a paid program they own my designs.

Not bashing the program, it's a wonderful program, just pointing out that anything designed within it cannot be downloaded to your personal pc. Sketchup's advantage is that I own the program and the files.

Not criticizing fusion, I use both sketchup and fusion, both are great programs but the designer in me want's to make sure I own my designs at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: jeffm13 on February 22, 2019, 01:44 AM
I used to be a SketchUp guy using it with my Mac, but given the hefty cost of SU, I moved over to Autodesk Fusion and I have to admit I like it much better. 

Thanks @mdihle . Your post inspired me to take a look. I just downloaded Fusion, and I absolutely love it. I've been using Sketchup since just after Google bought them. And I kept using it after Google set them free. But Fusion takes 3d modeling to a whole new level. I don't yet see how it is free for non-commercial use, but it's powerful enough that even if I have to buy a subscription, I might. I have a friend who told me how much he likes it, but I never really looked any further. Now, I finally see why. I used to do quite a lot with Sketchup. Enough so that I even purchased a 3d mouse.  But it was difficult enough to create an accurate model in Sketchup, that I mostly stopped using Sketchup and the mouse.  With Fusion, I just might actually put that mouse to use again: modeling that walnut dining room table with butterfly leaves that I'm about to start on.

@usernumber1, I did a little bit of research, and while I didn't find a cutlist equivalent for Fusion, it looks like there is an extension that will provide a bill of material in CSV format that will list out everything in the model, along with length, width and height of each component. Not really a cutlist, but I'll probably use it.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: Mario Turcot on February 22, 2019, 07:18 AM
@Sparktrician Willy, do MaxCut take into account the blade thickness? I watched one of their video and found it adequate for what i need but there was no mention of the cut lost.

There is also MaxCut (https://www.maxcutsoftware.com/).  I've used Cutlist Plus (https://cutlistplus.com/), but the company is a royal PITA when one has to reinstall the product after a hard drive replacement or the like.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: Sparktrician on February 22, 2019, 08:06 AM
@Mario Turcot, I don't know the answer to that since I've not used MaxCut.  There's a free trial download that you can play with to find out, though.  I do know that Cutlist Plus does compensate for blade thickness. 

@Sparktrician Willy, do MaxCut take into account the blade thickness? I watched one of their video and found it adequate for what i need but there was no mention of the cut lost.

There is also MaxCut (https://www.maxcutsoftware.com/).  I've used Cutlist Plus (https://cutlistplus.com/), but the company is a royal PITA when one has to reinstall the product after a hard drive replacement or the like.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: RogerP on February 22, 2019, 10:51 AM
I use one called “Cut Calculator” on my iPad. I am satisfied with the results.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: Mario Turcot on February 22, 2019, 10:54 AM
Thanks willy

I read more about MaxCut and yes the blade kerf is part of the settings. With the pro version you can have multiple kerf on a single list.

I gave a try to CutList Optimizer and it fullfil my requirements. Kerf setting and convert to PDF to print out  [big grin]
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: thedevme on February 22, 2019, 11:01 AM
I use one called “Cut Calculator” on my iPad. I am satisfied with the results.

@RogerP I tried using this app but I wasn't a fan.  I will look at it one more time but I guess if you want something you have to do it yourself.  Since I am an iOS developer in my day job I will look into building an app that does this.  This way I can make it work how I want too.
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: mattbyington on February 27, 2019, 12:34 AM
I use SketchUp on my Mac with the Cut List extension and it works well!

Matt
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: thedevme on February 27, 2019, 10:15 PM
I use SketchUp on my Mac with the Cut List extension and it works well!

Matt

Thanks @mattbyington
Title: Re: Plywood Cut Sheet
Post by: ben_r_ on February 28, 2019, 05:25 PM
If you can get access to a PC or run Parallels on a Mac to get Windows onto it, CutList Plus is probably the best cut list software out there. And once you get your cut list laid out on it you can access/view it via their free iOS app. Its pretty cool.