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Offline bwehman

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New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« on: September 05, 2023, 12:27 PM »
Hey all! Any insight into which RG 130 I should go with? The one that pops up on Recon is the older brushed model, for the same price as the new one, but comes with the $200 grinding wheel I need.
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Offline jonnyrocket

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2023, 02:16 PM »
In addition to the new version being brushless, it also includes bluetooth.  Since this is a corded tool, you wouldn’t think this makes a big difference, but it does.
The RG130 connected to the power plug on a CT extractor has a tendency to overload a US 15Amp circuit and cause the circuit breaker to trip.  With the integrated bluetooth of the new model, you can connect the extractor and the grinder to different circuits and prevent this from happening all while keeping the auto start/stop of the extractor.

Do you really need this feature? If you are planning to use this tool often, I can see this making a big difference in the user experience of the tool. But if you are using it 1x or 2x per year, then maybe it’s not required.  I have the brushed version without integrated Bluetooth, and when I saw the new model, it was immediately obvious why they made this improvement.  I sure wish mine had this feature.
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Offline bwehman

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2023, 03:41 PM »
Quote from: jonnyrocket on September 05, 2023, 02:16 PM
In addition to the new version being brushless, it also includes bluetooth.  Since this is a corded tool, you wouldn’t think this makes a big difference, but it does.
The RG130 connected to the power plug on a CT extractor has a tendency to overload a US 15Amp circuit and cause the circuit breaker to trip.  With the integrated bluetooth of the new model, you can connect the extractor and the grinder to different circuits and prevent this from happening all while keeping the auto start/stop of the extractor.

Do you really need this feature? If you are planning to use this tool often, I can see this making a big difference in the user experience of the tool. But if you are using it 1x or 2x per year, then maybe it’s not required.  I have the brushed version without integrated Bluetooth, and when I saw the new model, it was immediately obvious why they made this improvement.  I sure wish mine had this feature.

Ah, interesting. I must've watched an hour's worth of content related to the new grinder and not once was this mentioned, but literally that alone is the selling point for me between the two. Appreciate the perspective!
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Offline Coen

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2023, 06:56 PM »
I didn't even notice they have a new version.

Seems to also have a filter cassette for the motor air cooling now? Nice.
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Offline Coen

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2023, 07:17 PM »
Quote from: jonnyrocket on September 05, 2023, 02:16 PM
In addition to the new version being brushless, it also includes bluetooth.  Since this is a corded tool, you wouldn’t think this makes a big difference, but it does.
The RG130 connected to the power plug on a CT extractor has a tendency to overload a US 15Amp circuit and cause the circuit breaker to trip.  With the integrated bluetooth of the new model, you can connect the extractor and the grinder to different circuits and prevent this from happening all while keeping the auto start/stop of the extractor.

Do you really need this feature? If you are planning to use this tool often, I can see this making a big difference in the user experience of the tool. But if you are using it 1x or 2x per year, then maybe it’s not required.  I have the brushed version without integrated Bluetooth, and when I saw the new model, it was immediately obvious why they made this improvement.  I sure wish mine had this feature.

That 110V situation must truly suck. I used two vacs (CTL-26 and some huge 2000W wheeled monster) and a 2300W wall chaser on a single 230V 16A circuit. The fuse got a little warmer, that was all. Things tend to always use a bunch less than is on the type plate and the fuse / MCB's has a positive tolerance anyway.
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Offline jonnyrocket

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2023, 08:21 PM »
Quote from: bwehman on September 05, 2023, 03:41 PM

Ah, interesting. I must've watched an hour's worth of content related to the new grinder and not once was this mentioned, but literally that alone is the selling point for me between the two. Appreciate the perspective!


Glad it was helpful!
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Offline imdking

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2023, 08:52 PM »
Quote from: Coen on September 06, 2023, 07:17 PM


That 110V situation must truly suck. I used two vacs (CTL-26 and some huge 2000W wheeled monster) and a 2300W wall chaser on a single 230V 16A circuit. The fuse got a little warmer, that was all. Things tend to always use a bunch less than is on the type plate and the fuse / MCB's has a positive tolerance anyway.

What wall chaser do you have?
I'm thinking of getting the Metabo, and wonder if there are others out there.
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Offline Coen

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2023, 04:14 PM »
Quote from: imdking on September 07, 2023, 08:52 PM
Quote from: Coen on September 06, 2023, 07:17 PM


That 110V situation must truly suck. I used two vacs (CTL-26 and some huge 2000W wheeled monster) and a 2300W wall chaser on a single 230V 16A circuit. The fuse got a little warmer, that was all. Things tend to always use a bunch less than is on the type plate and the fuse / MCB's has a positive tolerance anyway.

What wall chaser do you have?
I'm thinking of getting the Metabo, and wonder if there are others out there.

I have the MFE 65. But the drawback is that it doesn't get as close to the ceiling as most other compacter models. At least when chasing depth for conduit for electricity. It does have plenty of power. For 30cm high outlets I also need to chase the lowest portion going up with the machine turned upside down.

It could do with a re-design... there should be (spring-loaded) bristles near the base. And it doesn't plunge... meaning on initial insertion the dust shroud doesn't capture everything. And because of missing bristles and initial contact of the blades is parallel to the wall with blades going ~280 km/h it will blow out a plume of smoke under the shroud. Once in the wall there is not that much dust. But some competing models do have the plunging shroud and do have bristles, resulting in way less dust.

It's also beastly at nearly 10 kg. For that you get the ability to cut 65mm deep, something I haven't used so far, but it does enable some other uses, like cutting paving stones etc.

I don't know if they even sell the MFE 65 in the USA.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2023, 04:18 PM by Coen »
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Offline imdking

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2023, 05:38 PM »
Thanks @Coen for the response.

I will be purchasing the chaser for use in Botswana. So, I'd probably be buying it from the United Kingdom, because we use the same voltage (former British colony). I just need to find a retailer that will accept international credit/debit cards. I've been ordering my tools from Axminster tools, but there's so much they do mot have. Like Makita 40v cordless tools. It's so frustrating. But FFX will not accept international credit cards. It's tough. I don't know what I'll do.

Sorry to the OP, didn't mean to hijack your thread.

I wish Festool's grinder could do 3 blades so it could chase in one pass, instead of having to go back and chisel the material between the cuts.

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Offline Coen

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2023, 02:35 PM »
Quote from: imdking on September 12, 2023, 05:38 PM
Thanks @Coen for the response.

I will be purchasing the chaser for use in Botswana. So, I'd probably be buying it from the United Kingdom, because we use the same voltage (former British colony). I just need to find a retailer that will accept international credit/debit cards. I've been ordering my tools from Axminster tools, but there's so much they do mot have. Like Makita 40v cordless tools. It's so frustrating. But FFX will not accept international credit cards. It's tough. I don't know what I'll do.

Sorry to the OP, didn't mean to hijack your thread.

I wish Festool's grinder could do 3 blades so it could chase in one pass, instead of having to go back and chisel the material between the cuts.

Botswana is 230V too, right? So you can buy from any European country.

What width you want to chase? I have three blades in the MFE 65, but at ~19mm chase width, it still leaves two dams. But they can be broken out very very easily compared to what you get when leaving out the 3rd blade. If you chase everything, like with the 20 or 30mm wide blades (see MFE 40) you get a LOT more dust ending up in the vac.
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Offline imdking

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2023, 09:08 AM »
I figured tools from any place in the E. U. would work, but I wasn't sure about the pin shape and sizes of the plugs from country to country.

I will be chasing for regular household wiring, so the Metabo MFE40 is what I'm looking at.

Is there an online store in the Netherlands that ships internationally? Or at least take credit cards that are not local, or even PayPal. I have a forwarding service that lets me ship to Guernsey, then they forward my goods to Botswana.
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Offline Coen

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2023, 11:23 AM »
Sorry for the hijacking

Quote from: imdking on September 15, 2023, 09:08 AM
I figured tools from any place in the E. U. would work, but I wasn't sure about the pin shape and sizes of the plugs from country to country.

I will be chasing for regular household wiring, so the Metabo MFE40 is what I'm looking at.

Is there an online store in the Netherlands that ships internationally? Or at least take credit cards that are not local, or even PayPal. I have a forwarding service that lets me ship to Guernsey, then they forward my goods to Botswana.

The one I bought in NL came with a UK plug. Upon closer inspection the UK plug was put over and 'clicked' shut over a Schuko plug. I was within 1 second of squeezing the cable sheers when I saw the UK end could be taken off. This adapter now spends it's life sitting in a bag full of UK and US powercords  [wink]

It is a class II tool; no ground connection. The manual advises to not touch the metal parts (like the shroud) during use, as cutting into live wiring will make those parts live too.
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Offline imdking

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Re: New vs old RG 130 Renofix grinder - debating which to get!
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2023, 11:38 AM »
Quote from: Coen on September 15, 2023, 11:23 AM
Sorry for the hijacking

Quote from: imdking on September 15, 2023, 09:08 AM
I figured tools from any place in the E. U. would work, but I wasn't sure about the pin shape and sizes of the plugs from country to country.

I will be chasing for regular household wiring, so the Metabo MFE40 is what I'm looking at.

Is there an online store in the Netherlands that ships internationally? Or at least take credit cards that are not local, or even PayPal. I have a forwarding service that lets me ship to Guernsey, then they forward my goods to Botswana.

The one I bought in NL came with a UK plug. Upon closer inspection the UK plug was put over and 'clicked' shut over a Schuko plug. I was within 1 second of squeezing the cable sheers when I saw the UK end could be taken off. This adapter now spends it's life sitting in a bag full of UK and US powercords  [wink]

It is a class II tool; no ground connection. The manual advises to not touch the metal parts (like the shroud) during use, as cutting into live wiring will make those parts live too.

Mooi man!
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