Quote from: JD2720 on January 13, 2019, 08:04 AM

I was looking forward to the cordless model, but I see they have gone to the Starlock blade attachment. I will stick with my Vecturo.

What's your issue with starlock?

I do not have an issue with starlock. My issue is that starlock oscillating tools only take starlock blades. On my current vecturos, I can use almost every style blade made for oscillating tools including the starlock blades.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Somewhere I read there might be something in Munich today.   


Peter

Dust collection plunge base.  I like it!

Seth

For the TKS 80 nothing more for the moment than the official Festool video for the BAU building event .
https://www.facebook.com/festoolDE/videos/2395054803901122/

Quote from: tallgrass on January 06, 2019, 03:31 PM

Not sure if cost is an object. This tech will become mandatory, legally and from a regulatory point of view.

I wouldn't bet on it.  People have thought that for a long time, hasn't happened.  Anytime you start mandating destructive features in a product that doesn't go over well.  Even when it is for safety, it doesn't go over well.  Airbags in cars were not mandated by law until the late 90s, well after they had become standard in all cars.  While hot dog protection systems I think are appreciated by many, I don't think very many folks want it forced on them, and definitely not when there is a destructive/consumable aspect to it when it goes off.  Get the design to be done completely by electric braking or similar where it's just a reset and go on, then it would be a bit different.

Just like safety vests, body harnesses, and helmets. No one regularly uses them until they are required by your company or the law. Cars affect almost everyone so airbag rules make sense (though they have been take to the extreme and we are beyond the point of diminishing returns). Exact features on tools, probably not anytime soon. It will happen when this solution or another can get into the sub $500 saws. At that point manufacturers will probably give up add them to their lineup while at the same time dropping the $99 junk from the market.

Hi all,

Was at the festool stand at BAU in Germany for quite some time and got chatting to a great guy:

Tried the new vecturo 18v using the 3.1sm battery, the head is made by fein off the super cut but armature and electronics made by festool. It works great with the same +- 2mm oscillation of the super cut and can be used with all cutting blades with star lock. There are a few new accessories with vaccum attachments etc. I did compare it to the fein, as fein where on the next stand, it’s longer and narrower so easier to grip but didn’t seem very balanced. Vibration was low but there was very little overmolding of softer rubber as done on the drills/saws to dampen micro vibrations more. Maybe this will be added on the final production units. It also seems quieter that the presious one...

Now the big news, the guy confirmed that the impact driver will happen in 2019 in Europe, they have been testing it for a long time but it has been realesed due to the 3 year service warranty.. in testing they find that most other impact drivers fail after 2 years due to anvil damage of impact damage to bearings. Until they have a design that will last at least 3 years they will not release it - apparently they now have such a solution and it might be realised in March/April but more likely in September. He also mentioned it will be available in the USA shortly after.

Lastly the new sawstop saw was also on demo and looked a brill unit but it won’t be cheap !!

Sorry wasn’t allowed to take images of the vecturo ..

Seriously what is the eagerness for a Festool impact driver?  I get tools that tie in with dust collection and rail system and cms systems.  But a tool that is no different and what every brand makes for cheap.  There can't be many folks out there who's only run the Festool battery system. That would be the only real case I can see where someone would want one.

I agree...Milwaukee makes impacts that are 1/4", 3/8", 7/16", 1/2" and 3/4" drive. They will produce 50 ft#, 200 ft#, 400 ft#, 750 ft#, 1100 ft# and 1400 ft# of torque. They are offered in positive detent and hog ring configurations, There are conventional mechanical drive and hydraulic drive versions in both small 12 volt and the larger 18 volt versions. Most of them are also programmable.

Meanwhile everyone is quietly sitting on their thumbs, anxiously waiting for Festool to release their single variant of an impact driver?

What am I missing?

Perhaps wanting to support an ethically-produced tool (over the sweatshop-produced equivalent) means more to more people than I thought. If so, that is a pleasant surprise.

Point well taken.

Was also given this - it’s so cool !

Perhaps wanting to support an ethically-produced tool (over the sweatshop-produced equivalent) means more to more people than I thought. If so, that is a pleasant surprise.

Yes, and this is why I don't have a huge issue with festool pricing and so forth when folks complain about that.  But still, these are commodity tools and not all made in bad wage/condition places.

Seriously what is the eagerness for a Festool impact driver?  I get tools that tie in with dust collection and rail system and cms systems.  But a tool that is no different and what every brand makes for cheap.  There can't be many folks out there who's only run the Festool battery system. That would be the only real case I can see where someone would want one.

I would expect it will have interchangeable heads/chucks which no other impact currently offers (that I know of) except the discontinued T15 impact also by Festool. That to me sounds different than other brands of impacts. I doubt it will have the raw power of the big guys but who cares. An impact driver doesn't need impact wrench power.

Quote from: JD2720 on January 13, 2019, 09:25 PM

Quote from: Gregor on January 13, 2019, 01:32 PM

Quote from: JD2720 on January 13, 2019, 08:04 AM

I was looking forward to the cordless model, but I see they have gone to the Starlock blade attachment. I will stick with my Vecturo.

What's your issue with starlock?

I do not have an issue with starlock. My issue is that starlock oscillating tools only take starlock blades. On my current vecturos, I can use almost every style blade made for oscillating tools including the starlock blades.

I could see, as a cost savings, for someone to go with blades that aren't Starlock, but apart from the cost aspect of it, why would you want to use blades that aren't Starlock? Most anything available with other OMT connection systems like grinding, cutting, scraping, and sanding are available with Starlock.

I still have 70+ quality Supercut blades. All I need is a working adapter and then I am set for years and years to come. And I have that adapter.   When the blades run out or if I need a specialty blade I don't already have I will go Starlock. I have nothing against Starlock, just that the original Supercut works so well I don't care as long as it fits the machine with no issues.

Had a Great Time at Bau as always.
Thought I'd post few pics of the NEW Vecturo.
Really looks an awesome bit of kit and being a FEIN dealer i'd like to think this will give the Cordless supercut a run for its money.
(It was on public display and i was shown it by the Demonstrator who held it for me to take pics)

Very Impressed! Can't wait to have them in the UK!
Also the new CS:

Hope these are of interest to those with a passion for new stuff!
Tried to get as many pics as I could but the stand was very busy!

Looks like pages for the old corded Vecturo have been pulled from festool.de (and my local .dk) - there are still Vecturo plus and set search suggestions but they result in page errors. Corded Vecturo is still up on festool.com, though.