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Offline Vince7040

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #210 on: January 13, 2019, 07:20 PM »
Looking at the photos of the cordless Vecturo it appears that the adapter needed to use the Festool attachments won't fit the cordless version. The corded model has a flat surface where the adapter attaches. Unless they have redesigned the adapter, it may not work with this version. That would be unfortunate.

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Offline JD2720

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« Reply #211 on: January 13, 2019, 09:25 PM »
I was looking forward to the cordless model, but I see they have gone to the Starlock blade attachment. I will stick with my Vecturo.
What's your issue with starlock?

I do not have an issue with starlock. My issue is that starlock oscillating tools only take starlock blades. On my current vecturos, I can use almost every style blade made for oscillating tools including the starlock blades.

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #212 on: January 14, 2019, 12:07 PM »
It's here in real life!
The new CTL Midi I.
Can somebody rotate this picture?
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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #213 on: January 14, 2019, 12:25 PM »


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Offline GarryMartin

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #214 on: January 14, 2019, 03:34 PM »
Doesn't one of the events where the TKS 80 is due to be shown start today? Anyone seen it? Any photos or more information?

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #215 on: January 14, 2019, 04:57 PM »
Somewhere I read there might be something in Munich today.    [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]


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« Reply #216 on: January 14, 2019, 07:37 PM »
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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #217 on: January 15, 2019, 12:34 AM »
Dust collection plunge base.  I like it!

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« Reply #218 on: January 15, 2019, 03:29 AM »
I like it!
I do want it!

Hopefully it fits the Supercut.

Offline French_Fan

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« Reply #219 on: January 15, 2019, 10:35 AM »
For the TKS 80 nothing more for the moment than the official Festool video for the BAU building event .
https://www.facebook.com/festoolDE/videos/2395054803901122/

Offline JimH2

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« Reply #220 on: January 15, 2019, 11:38 AM »
Anyone want to guess the price of the table saw?

Offline JimH2

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« Reply #221 on: January 15, 2019, 11:45 AM »
Not sure if cost is an object. This tech will become mandatory, legally and from a regulatory point of view.

I wouldn't bet on it.  People have thought that for a long time, hasn't happened.  Anytime you start mandating destructive features in a product that doesn't go over well.  Even when it is for safety, it doesn't go over well.  Airbags in cars were not mandated by law until the late 90s, well after they had become standard in all cars.  While hot dog protection systems I think are appreciated by many, I don't think very many folks want it forced on them, and definitely not when there is a destructive/consumable aspect to it when it goes off.  Get the design to be done completely by electric braking or similar where it's just a reset and go on, then it would be a bit different.

Just like safety vests, body harnesses, and helmets. No one regularly uses them until they are required by your company or the law. Cars affect almost everyone so airbag rules make sense (though they have been take to the extreme and we are beyond the point of diminishing returns). Exact features on tools, probably not anytime soon. It will happen when this solution or another can get into the sub $500 saws. At that point manufacturers will probably give up add them to their lineup while at the same time dropping the $99 junk from the market.

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #222 on: January 15, 2019, 12:07 PM »
For the TKS 80 nothing more for the moment than the official Festool video for the BAU building event .
https://www.facebook.com/festoolDE/videos/2395054803901122/
I saw some pictures on Instagram this morning


https://www.instagram.com/p/BsqTlDXAQi4/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=197kvcvwd8jxv



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Offline Fogy

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #223 on: January 15, 2019, 02:04 PM »
Hi all,

Was at the festool stand at BAU in Germany for quite some time and got chatting to a great guy:

Tried the new vecturo 18v using the 3.1sm battery, the head is made by fein off the super cut but armature and electronics made by festool. It works great with the same +- 2mm oscillation of the super cut and can be used with all cutting blades with star lock. There are a few new accessories with vaccum attachments etc. I did compare it to the fein, as fein where on the next stand, it’s longer and narrower so easier to grip but didn’t seem very balanced. Vibration was low but there was very little overmolding of softer rubber as done on the drills/saws to dampen micro vibrations more. Maybe this will be added on the final production units. It also seems quieter that the presious one...

Now the big news, the guy confirmed that the impact driver will happen in 2019 in Europe, they have been testing it for a long time but it has been realesed due to the 3 year service warranty.. in testing they find that most other impact drivers fail after 2 years due to anvil damage of impact damage to bearings. Until they have a design that will last at least 3 years they will not release it - apparently they now have such a solution and it might be realised in March/April but more likely in September. He also mentioned it will be available in the USA shortly after.

Lastly the new sawstop saw was also on demo and looked a brill unit but it won’t be cheap !!

Sorry wasn’t allowed to take images of the vecturo ..

Offline DeformedTree

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« Reply #224 on: January 15, 2019, 10:09 PM »



Now the big news, the guy confirmed that the impact driver will happen in 2019 in Europe, they have been testing it for a long time but it has been realesed due to the 3 year service warranty.. in testing they find that most other impact drivers fail after 2 years due to anvil damage of impact damage to bearings. Until they have a design that will last at least 3 years they will not release it - apparently they now have such a solution and it might be realised in March/April but more likely in September. He also mentioned it will be available in the USA shortly after.


Guess I should make my Milwaukee aware it's 4x over due for death and it's almost certainly my most used powertool.

Seriously what is the eagerness for a Festool impact driver?  I get tools that tie in with dust collection and rail system and cms systems.  But a tool that is no different and what every brand makes for cheap.  There can't be many folks out there who's only run the Festool battery system. That would be the only real case I can see where someone would want one.

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« Reply #225 on: January 15, 2019, 11:30 PM »
Seriously what is the eagerness for a Festool impact driver?  I get tools that tie in with dust collection and rail system and cms systems.  But a tool that is no different and what every brand makes for cheap.  There can't be many folks out there who's only run the Festool battery system. That would be the only real case I can see where someone would want one.

I agree...Milwaukee makes impacts that are 1/4", 3/8", 7/16", 1/2" and 3/4" drive. They will produce 50 ft#, 200 ft#, 400 ft#, 750 ft#, 1100 ft# and 1400 ft# of torque. They are offered in positive detent and hog ring configurations, There are conventional mechanical drive and hydraulic drive versions in both small 12 volt and the larger 18 volt versions. Most of them are also programmable.

Meanwhile everyone is quietly sitting on their thumbs, anxiously waiting for Festool to release their single variant of an impact driver?

What am I missing?

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« Reply #226 on: January 16, 2019, 12:58 AM »
Perhaps wanting to support an ethically-produced tool (over the sweatshop-produced equivalent) means more to more people than I thought. If so, that is a pleasant surprise.
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Offline Cheese

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« Reply #227 on: January 16, 2019, 01:01 AM »
Perhaps wanting to support an ethically-produced tool (over the sweatshop-produced equivalent) means more to more people than I thought. If so, that is a pleasant surprise.

Point well taken.

Offline tobiaskurz

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« Reply #228 on: January 16, 2019, 10:31 AM »
At the fair BAU in Munich festool showed a Prototype of a tablesaw with SawStop integration. Most parts fromm the saw wehre manufactured by rapide prototyping methods. This shows in wich early steps of development they are. They hope to be able to deliver it in 2020. The price to change the blade and cartridge was forecasted with around 200€. The Price from the saw it self is still a big surprise ... .
Askt for the acquisition from Shapertools we got the information that they hope to be able to bring it to the european market with in this year. As they mention the biggest problem is to build up a strong customer service.
The new cordless Vecturo will replace the current corded one completely. Sadly the old mounting plate for the accessories like the plunge base is not compatible with the new tool.   

Offline Fogy

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« Reply #229 on: January 16, 2019, 05:09 PM »

Was also given this - it’s so cool !


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« Reply #230 on: January 16, 2019, 06:16 PM »
Aw, look at its little handle.

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« Reply #231 on: January 16, 2019, 10:16 PM »
Perhaps wanting to support an ethically-produced tool (over the sweatshop-produced equivalent) means more to more people than I thought. If so, that is a pleasant surprise.

Yes, and this is why I don't have a huge issue with festool pricing and so forth when folks complain about that.  But still, these are commodity tools and not all made in bad wage/condition places.


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« Reply #233 on: January 17, 2019, 09:31 PM »

Seriously what is the eagerness for a Festool impact driver?  I get tools that tie in with dust collection and rail system and cms systems.  But a tool that is no different and what every brand makes for cheap.  There can't be many folks out there who's only run the Festool battery system. That would be the only real case I can see where someone would want one.

I would expect it will have interchangeable heads/chucks which no other impact currently offers (that I know of) except the discontinued T15 impact also by Festool. That to me sounds different than other brands of impacts. I doubt it will have the raw power of the big guys but who cares. An impact driver doesn't need impact wrench power.

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« Reply #234 on: January 17, 2019, 10:32 PM »
I was looking forward to the cordless model, but I see they have gone to the Starlock blade attachment. I will stick with my Vecturo.
What's your issue with starlock?

I do not have an issue with starlock. My issue is that starlock oscillating tools only take starlock blades. On my current vecturos, I can use almost every style blade made for oscillating tools including the starlock blades.

I could see, as a cost savings, for someone to go with blades that aren't Starlock, but apart from the cost aspect of it, why would you want to use blades that aren't Starlock? Most anything available with other OMT connection systems like grinding, cutting, scraping, and sanding are available with Starlock.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 10:44 PM by jronman »

Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #235 on: January 18, 2019, 01:56 AM »
I was looking forward to the cordless model, but I see they have gone to the Starlock blade attachment. I will stick with my Vecturo.
What's your issue with starlock?

I do not have an issue with starlock. My issue is that starlock oscillating tools only take starlock blades. On my current vecturos, I can use almost every style blade made for oscillating tools including the starlock blades.

I could see, as a cost savings, for someone to go with blades that aren't Starlock, but apart from the cost aspect of it, why would you want to use blades that aren't Starlock? Most anything available with other OMT connection systems like grinding, cutting, scraping, and sanding are available with Starlock.

I still have 70+ quality Supercut blades. All I need is a working adapter and then I am set for years and years to come. And I have that adapter. :)  When the blades run out or if I need a specialty blade I don't already have I will go Starlock. I have nothing against Starlock, just that the original Supercut works so well I don't care as long as it fits the machine with no issues. :)
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« Reply #236 on: January 18, 2019, 02:08 AM »
I could see, as a cost savings, for someone to go with blades that aren't Starlock, but apart from the cost aspect of it, why would you want to use blades that aren't Starlock? Most anything available with other OMT connection systems like grinding, cutting, scraping, and sanding are available with Starlock.

The cost saving are HUGE. Fein's prices are beyond ridiculous. I buy blades from a cheap brand, Werckmann, and they cost 1 euro a piece and they last as long as blades Fein charges 40 euro for.

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #237 on: January 18, 2019, 04:00 AM »
Had a Great Time at Bau as always.
Thought I'd post few pics of the NEW Vecturo.
Really looks an awesome bit of kit and being a FEIN dealer i'd like to think this will give the Cordless supercut a run for its money.
(It was on public display and i was shown it by the Demonstrator who held it for me to take pics) [smile] [big grin]
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« Reply #238 on: January 18, 2019, 04:27 AM »
Thanks for the photos. The Vecturo looks pretty nice: cordless :-*, dust extraction :) and... a depth-stop for the plunge base [eek] Would like to have seen a paddle switch on it though.

Back in reality, I shudder to think what a full set with batteries will cost [crying]


Offline BrianSometimes

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« Reply #239 on: January 18, 2019, 01:23 PM »
Looks like pages for the old corded Vecturo have been pulled from festool.de (and my local .dk) - there are still Vecturo plus and set search suggestions but they result in page errors. Corded Vecturo is still up on festool.com, though.