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Offline Kylec57

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new festool extractor?
« on: November 18, 2019, 05:52 PM »
Seen a video on Instagram of a new dust extractor. Looks to be a cheaper model perhaps? Instagram link https://www.instagram.com/p/B5BCXA7qb1r/?igshid=vdi3jrtsb9vi
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Offline Alex

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2019, 05:59 PM »
Looks to be a cheaper model perhaps?

Looks like the CT Mini updated to have the same appearance as the bigger CT26.

It is just the smaller model. Cheaper? Festool don't do cheaper.

But nice find.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2019, 07:25 PM »
They're calling it the CT15. I recall that showing up somewhere in a parts number leak a while back. Looks to come with a 22mm hose.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 08:24 PM »
It doesn’t appear to have the antistatic hose.

Offline xedos

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2019, 08:31 PM »
Looks to me to be a mini MINI without a hose garage and with a standard hose. 

Probably slotting it in the lineup between CT-MINI and CT-SYS in both price and capacity.

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2019, 06:58 AM »
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It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?

Offline Alex

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2019, 07:47 AM »
The one on the left is the new CTL Mini I. It is out alreadu and for sale everywhere.

But I could not find the one on the right on any website yet.
   

Offline Cheese

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2019, 09:25 AM »
They're calling it the CT15. I recall that showing up somewhere in a parts number leak a while back.

You're right...for the sleuths out there, the new list of part numbers for 2019 includes a mobil dust extr CT 15 HEPA USA...574831

The other CT shown is referred to as a mobil dust extr CT MIDI I HEPA USA...574837

Also see this thread
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/new-tools-for-2019-including-ctm-midi-and-kapex-updates-among-others/msg593391/?topicseen#msg593391
« Last Edit: November 19, 2019, 09:29 AM by Cheese »

Offline mrB

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2019, 09:37 AM »
Yeah new CTL midi on the left, maybe this CT15 is a replacement for the CT17? Certainly an upgraded design if so. And if it's in the same price range as the CT17 it'll probably sell very well. .
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Offline Alex

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2019, 09:42 AM »
Certainly an upgraded design if so. And if it's in the same price range as the CT17 it'll probably sell very well. .

Dunno, I've never seen a 17 in the wild, while I see the Mini and 26 on a daily basis. But the 15 is most certainly a lot better looking than the 17.

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2019, 10:02 AM »
Hmmmm, I don't know.  Foot print is smaller. But having to pile the hose on top pretty much negates any real size advantage. 

And no Systainer attachment.

     Those taken together I think I would want a regular Mini or Midi. And even though a Midi is technically larger it would most likely be smaller in actual use when it comes to convenience and real space.  Looks like purely a price targeted item.

   
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2019, 12:34 PM »
Hmmmm, I don't know.  Foot print is smaller. But having to pile the hose on top pretty much negates any real size advantage. 

And no Systainer attachment.

     Those taken together I think I would want a regular Mini or Midi. And even though a Midi is technically larger it would most likely be smaller in actual use when it comes to convenience and real space.  Looks like purely a price targeted item.

Seth

I think what you’re trying to say is that new highly compromised vac is horrible.


Offline mrB

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2019, 12:39 PM »
. . And no Systainer attachment. .

Seth

Oh rubbish. I had thought it looked like you could, hence my comment on the better design. .
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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2019, 01:01 PM »
. . And no Systainer attachment. .

Seth

Oh rubbish. I had thought it looked like you could, hence my comment on the better design. .


It appears that the video demonstrates no Sys attachment.

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Offline xedos

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2019, 01:18 PM »
Who do we think this is going to be aimed at ?

The core customer isn't going to want it for punch out work because the ct-sys is just better suited. They're not likely to want it for regular or shop like work either.  Too low a capacity, and the separators won't fit on it.

I can't imagine it being cheap enough to go after the on the fence crowd either.

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Offline Alex

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2019, 04:36 PM »
Who do we think this is going to be aimed at ?

The core customer isn't going to want it for punch out work because the ct-sys is just better suited. They're not likely to want it for regular or shop like work either.  Too low a capacity, and the separators won't fit on it.

I can't imagine it being cheap enough to go after the on the fence crowd either.

Puzzled

Are you familiar with the European market?

Offline xedos

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2019, 12:36 PM »
Not as much as you are, so I will,ask again:

who or what segment / trade is this vac targeted at ?

Are you buying one ? What are you going to use it in place of ?

Offline morts10n

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2019, 06:07 PM »
It's only use is for cleaning the outside of other vacs [tongue]

Offline tobiaskurz

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2019, 09:30 AM »
For me it locks that the Sys-dock isn't the only missing feature.
The CT 15 (if its so called) has no brake, the manual filter cleaning function wich the CT MINI/MIDI has is missing. Most important the Bluetooth connectivity is missing although.
Alongside with the already mention non Antistatic house there is an huge gap between the CT 15 and the CT MINI/MIDI.
I am curious if it is cheep enough to compensate all downsides.

Offline KGB pilot125

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2019, 09:58 AM »
For me it locks that the Sys-dock isn't the only missing feature.
The CT 15 (if its so called) has no brake, the manual filter cleaning function wich the CT MINI/MIDI has is missing. Most important the Bluetooth connectivity is missing although.
Alongside with the already mention non Antistatic house there is an huge gap between the CT 15 and the CT MINI/MIDI.
I am curious if it is cheep enough to compensate all downsides.

if you took all those away from my 26 or my MIDI you would have to make it as cheap as a Shop Vac brand because that is all you are selling me.

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2019, 10:28 AM »
Not as much as you are, so I will,ask again:

who or what segment / trade is this vac targeted at ?

Are you buying one ? What are you going to use it in place of ?

I can imagine tradesmen who work in Parisian apartments being very happy with a small and light vac. My late GF used to rent an apartment on the edge of the Marais and hauling our luggage and other stuff up those 86 stair threads always really took it out of me.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2019, 11:41 AM »
if you took all those away from my 26 or my MIDI you would have to make it as cheap as a Shop Vac brand because that is all you are selling me.

You're exactly correct...it's for those that want a vacuum with Shop Vac utility but with a Festool name on the product instead. So given the "extra value" or cachet of the Festool name, this thing would have to be priced in the $150-$200 range to be competitive.

However, unless this CT 15 is made in China or a similar location, it will never be priced in that range. Thus the question becomes who will pay $300-$350 for a bare bones/stripped down Festool vac?

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2019, 11:50 AM »
I assume it will still have a by-pass motor design so it’ll be much quieter than a Shop Vac. That’s something.

Offline Svar

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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2019, 12:06 PM »
I assume it will still have a by-pass motor design so it’ll be much quieter than a Shop Vac. That’s something.
Not to mention power socket, auto-start, and variable speed.
CT17, a similarly stripped down machine has been selling for years. Why would this one be any different?
« Last Edit: November 21, 2019, 12:24 PM by Svar »

Offline xedos

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2019, 08:00 PM »
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you would have to make it as cheap as a Shop Vac brand because that is all you are selling me

What do you think the chances of that are ?

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I can imagine tradesmen who work in Parisian apartments being very happy with a small and light vac.

And why wouldn't they just go for the MINI or the SYS ?  The ones that would allow them to attach their other systainers to make it easier to walk up those stairs and make less trips doing so.  Plus the other drawbacks mentioned once there.   

How many CT17's do you guys in Europe see ?   I'll bet it's not a big seller.   NAINA , probably because no one would buy it.

« Last Edit: November 22, 2019, 08:04 PM by xedos »

Offline Cheese

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2019, 10:27 AM »
Well the price for the CT 15 is $340.

And this is the way Festool recommends moving the vac around. The hose appears to be strapped to the top.






The storage area for the vac attachments is rather nice.


Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2019, 03:50 PM »
I don't think it is all too bad if you look at size vs bag capacity.
 
It has a 15L container and a full 15L filter bag capacity which is way better than the MINI which has a 10L "capacity" though the filter bag is only 7.5L. I hated the MINI while I had it: only slightly smaller than the MIDI and dropped performance so much faster when the bag filled up a little bit. The CT15 has double the filter bag size than the MINI.

I have the current CTM MIDI which has a 15L "capacity" but a 12.5L filter bag. The new CT15 has a 2.5L "advantage" over the MIDI if you will. If you don't mind the lack of BT and primarily use it for cleaning up and light duty with the machines it might not be so bad after all considering the price difference.

That grey hose is not my favourite though. I use it on my oldest CT22 for general clean up in the workshop and have a cyclone on top which is metal and that static hose keeps me alert when I drag my feet around... zap zap.

I love the current CTM MIDI for the BT as well as performance and I use it the most out of my four vacuum cleaners from Festool. Since I use a lot of non Festool gear the on/off switch at the hose saves the day, every day.
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2019, 04:17 PM »
@Cheese

Where did you get the pricing and pictures from?

I'll weigh in on why I'd be interested. I have a CT 26 with the WCR 1000 on top. It's shop bound. But there's times I'd like to setup elsewhere in and around my house. Example: going to be doing some reno work next year on my office. It'll be a couple month project and I'd like to just setup a second work area. I know if I move the CT 26 upstairs I'll inevitably need it back in my shop in the basement. The CT Sys has too many compromises for me to get excited about it. This CT 15 can be easily carried and setup, has bluetooth, and all of the main things I'd be looking for. If the price @ 340 is accurate it gets me excited. The next vac up I'd consider is the MIDI @ 540 and that's more than I'm interested in spending.
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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2019, 05:06 PM »
@Cheese
This CT 15 can be easily carried and setup, has bluetooth, and all of the main things I'd be looking for.

Sorry but the CT 15 has NO Bluetooth!
It also lacks a systainer bay, wheel brake and a green AS hose.
But that's why it's 35% cheaper then the CTL Midi I (in Europe).
Used to FT high pricing, it's a bargain in my eyes!
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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2019, 05:17 PM »
Well shoot. Guess I'm back to looking elsewhere.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2019, 12:28 AM »
@Cheese
Where did you get the pricing and pictures from?

@DynaGlide  I believe I went to the German Festool website to garner that info. I was surprised at the price considering the Festool premium but was still not sure it was a deal breaker for the average Joe looking for an alternative to the Shop Vac that sells for $89 at wherever...
« Last Edit: November 27, 2019, 12:31 AM by Cheese »

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2019, 08:49 AM »
https://www.festool.de/produkte/saugen/absaugmobile/575988---ct-15-e-set#Overview

I guess I'm still interested. The inclusion of the non-AS hose is annoying. If I saw myself wanting to upgrade that to the green new style @ $130 then might as well get into a CT MIDI with the hose included as well as Bluetooth. Yup I think I just talked myself out of this odd CT 15.
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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2019, 03:22 PM »
For me, personally, I think the MINI is the worst of the lot, for such a small bag vs size the CTL Sys makes more sense for weight.

The CT15 has the largest bag size and the lowest price and up until recently most people got by fine without Bluetooth. I see the CT15 as an alternative to the MIDI and a better option than the MINI.

Personally I prefer my Bluetooth MIDI and my Bluetooth outfitted CTL26.
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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2019, 04:37 PM »
For me, personally, I think the MINI is the worst of the lot, for such a small bag vs size the CTL Sys makes more sense for weight.

The CT15 has the largest bag size and the lowest price and up until recently most people got by fine without Bluetooth. I see the CT15 as an alternative to the MIDI and a better option than the MINI.

Personally I prefer my Bluetooth MIDI and my Bluetooth outfitted CTL26.

But why.. I have the mini Bluetooth, and the CT SYS. It is also about where the dust collector might fit, not everyone drives big vans, some have spaces that the mini just fit. I have a perfect height saw table on wheels for my CS50, where I used to have a Kärcher which I had to remove the wheels to get it to fit under, before I bought the mini I took some measures, and the mini fits perfect in this space, without removing anything. This means I have the top of the CS50 in same height as MFT/3 and all the accessories will fit, since it is the same height. And I can drag it out of it’s “cave” to roll it to another job. The mini also fits under my car's boot cover, just, it couldn’t be even a centimetre higher, and I would have to remove the cover. The difference in height between mini and midi is about 5cm, the new CT15 is even 3cm’s lower than the mini. I’m going to use a separator with the table saw, as I did with the Kärcher. (I have space under the table for that as well, behind the extractor). As someone else in here has done, is to order the bottom of the Midi, to essentially have both, by just exchanging their base. The CT SYS does not have Bluetooth or variable suction, and is therefore a second choice for me, but nonetheless a great addition. Funny though, Festool charges roughly $50 more for the Midi for the 5cm higher walls of the Midi’s base.. I haven’t checked what the base with wheels alone costs. I really like the Mini/Midi, they have a very good set of features, and both are very compact and easy handled units.

Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2019, 05:50 AM »
I agree that the smaller MINI is "practical" in terms of space and fitting under a CS50. But that's about where the logic ends.

I also have a CS50 and in my opinion the CT MINI is the last (well, after the CTL SYS) Festool vac I would use for a table saw. First of all the very small bag capacity. The MINI is good for sanding, general clean up and borderline ok for small routing.
Secondly the small diameter hose (which you can increase by getting a bigger one which you cannot fit in the hose garage...) and don't forget about the reduction in suction when the  bag is starting to fill up.

I have had the MINI, I have the CTL SYS, the current MIDI and CT22 and CTL26. The CTL SYS and MINI competes with making most or least sense. The CTL SYS should be upgraded with BT and variable suction in my opinion but other than that I am not thrilled with the concept of the MINI or CTL SYS for having such low bag capacity.

In the end I decided the MINI was neither here nor there for me and that the CTL SYS is a great complement to the MIDI on site for small cleanup or even wearing over the shoulder keeping things clean when drilling in high places.

The CT15 would be more interesting to me, if I didn't have the CTM MIDI. The MIDI is a little large but does a great job and I rarely need to bring the CTL26 and the MIDI is much lighter with the bag nearing full than the CTL26 is.

Also true is that the CTL SYS on a skate is pretty much the same size as the MINI with less performance but for some jobs it is a lightweight and very manageable piece of kit for tasks where the amount of dust generated is small to begin with.

 
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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2019, 10:14 AM »
I agree that the smaller MINI is "practical" in terms of space and fitting under a CS50. But that's about where the logic ends.

Not sure you can speak about "logic" here, because everybody's situation and preferences are different.

Different solutions for different people, and they all have their own logic. One person may be mobile all the time, another might have a big shop, and another might have a small shop and yet another might have no shop at all and has to store his tools in a closet somewhere.

So the Mini doesn't work for you, fine, there are plenty of other options and I'm sure you're happy with some of them. I have 2 Mini's and I am perfectly happy with them. I traded my 26 for a Mini because of the smaller footprint and the suction is almost the same with the newer types. I use my Mini with the CS70 all the time, and takes me about a day of sawing to get the bag full, so what, a €3 bag is no problem on a full days' wages.

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2019, 10:46 AM »
I agree on all points, everyone’s needs are different...the mini travels well with its small footprint and handles a lot
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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2019, 12:52 PM »
I agree with @Alex and @Vondawg.
I’m sure the mini or midi won’t fit everyone’s need. And if I can afford it later, when I have built my shop in my small yard house, I might look for a CT26 or similar. But still, I think the mini will be the one I’ll keep beside a larger unit. I think the CT SYS will go before the mini, it is such a compact and feature rich unit, with its cleaning system, and a filter drawer. And if you use it with a separator for bigger loads of saw dust, as with a table saw, the “small” volume of the bag wouldn’t mean anything. Suction is the same as Midi, and those are very close to the CT26.

For hose that comes with, I have already bought one for sanding and cutting (with sleeve), and I might even get one larger diameter hose for general use, maybe a 5 metre, as I think the Mini/Midi will cope well even with a longer hose (I might be wrong, so if anyone have tried, I would like to hear about your experience) In the way I work now, I can store the extra hoses on the wall. This means I can always have the hose that came with the Mini tucked in it’s garage, for more mobile use.

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2019, 04:05 PM »
and I might even get one larger diameter hose for general use, maybe a 5 metre, as I think the Mini/Midi will cope well even with a longer hose (I might be wrong, so if anyone have tried, I would like to hear about your experience)

Both my Minis I have the standard AS hose of 27 mm and I also have a non-AS 36 mm hose. The 36mm hose has a noticeably stronger suction than the 27 mm hoses, if you add 1,5 meter extra that is not going to make a difference. I often use my a 27 hose connected with my 36 if I have to sand high up.

What I do agree with Henrik about is that the loss of suction can be pretty quick and that's pretty annoying. Sometimes you have to change the bag when it's only 50 or 60% full, and that's a bit of a shame.
 

Offline bwehman

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2019, 02:41 AM »
This would be great as a dedicated unit to a Kapex.

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Re: new festool extractor?
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2019, 12:09 PM »
@Alex :
Thanks for sharing your experience. I’ll certainly jump for a 36mm hose then, preferably 5m. I’ll even test extending with a smaller diameter hose in the tool end. It might work for the odd occasion. I see that CT Mini till to at least CT36, is coming standard with a 27/36 hose... it is only the CT SYS that comes with 27/27 hose.. Even that combo has worked with my Makita 18V palm router.

And yes, the CT 15 would be an economically good alternative to stationary work as table saw dust collector. It is well above $200 cheaper than a Mini/Midi, and you can stay Festool, and use almost all accessories you have from before with it.