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Offline Boski

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Kapex stand and extensions
« on: August 31, 2023, 07:36 AM »

Can anyone provide some feedback on the stand and wings?

It's a fair lump of money on top of the kapex 120 itself so was after some feedback on them?

Alternatively, does anyone use the Dewalt stand, any feedback, comparisons etc?
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Offline kevinculle

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2023, 08:38 AM »
The UG stand and wings provide a very versatile base for the Kapex in your shop, but the real magic comes if you travel with your saw.  In very short order your saw and its stand and extensions packs up into a wheeled cart that is easy to move and sets up again in minutes.  I consider the UG package essential for any Kapex that ever travels and also great if it never leaves your shop.

Offline SoonerFan

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2023, 10:08 AM »
I agree with @kevinculle in that the magic happens when mobile.  The setup is easy to move, fast to set up and when calibrated very accurate.  I bought mine when I was using our garage as my shop.  I needed to move equipment to park cars.  The Kapex setup made this possible.  I added an extra flip stop on each extension wing.  This gives me several options for repeatable cut I used when making face frames, stiles and rails.

Offline ShopTeacher27

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2023, 11:02 AM »
I have used the DeWalt beam stand for many years now. I had to drill custom holes in the mounding brackets for the Kapex, but it works great. For mobile work, it is very easy to move and set up. In the shop, I leave the Kapex on the beam (with legs folded up) and put the beam on a row of drawers. In the shop, I added a wood fence with a Rockler rail with rule and flip stops. The wood fence rests on the left extension support of the stand, and attaches to the left side of the Kapex, which makes for quick, accurate, and repeatable cuts.

I bought a second set of DeWalt mounting backings, which I attached to my old 12" DeWalt miter saw. I use the DeWalt saw on the DeWalt rail stand when cutting 2x4 or other "rough" lumber that does not require the Festool quality cut, and then put the Kapex on when I need finish trim quality cuts.

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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2023, 12:12 PM »
I have an old MFT 800 top bolted to a set of Dewalt mounts. It’s very handy as is but I haven’t yet added some extrusions to mount the MFT rail hardware. Just a short rail and the TSO rail square cover 90%of my needs.

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2023, 12:39 PM »
Seldom move the Kapex, but when I do, the UG stand works well. I nest a Festool vac under the UG stand. Fits nicely. It is dedicated to the Kapex and has the short fat hose.
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Offline kevinculle

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2023, 01:12 PM »
Just a quick follow-up...if you want to have the full capacity of the UG extensions on both sides available you will need to provide almost 16' (5m) of space.

Offline imdking

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2023, 02:00 PM »
I don't own the UG stand, so I can't give feedback on it. I did consider getting it when I bought my Kapex.

But I ended up going with the Bosch Gravity Rise stand. That is one smooth setup. The Kapex holes need some adaptation to secure to the mounts. I love my setup.

Just an option to consider.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2023, 09:36 PM by imdking »
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Offline Walter Cronkat

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2023, 02:48 PM »
I am an Onsite finish carpenter.
I used to use the Dewalt saw and stand, thought it was great, then I got the Kapex and mobile base and wings. It's a game changer for sure, I'll never go back.
If you are just in a shop and dont want to spend the time to build a miter station, just put the kapex on a cabinet or stand or anything really, and buy the wings. Having full support and dead accurate stops is great.

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2023, 10:17 AM »
I own multiple 120 Kapexs, all are on UG stands with wings, great system. When you attach the wings then adjust them to be on plain check the connection to the saw, I find they need an extra turn if you change the position of the wings. These for the most part stay in the shop.

I recently bought a KSC 60 without the UG system. That lasted a couple of days. ended up buying the UG system for it. I did notice they have improved the connection tab.

If you do a lot of repetitive cuts, get some extra stops.

The wings fit the MFT 3 and CMS also.

Tom

Offline Ebuwan

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2023, 10:35 AM »
I have the UG setup in my shop, I rarely move it, and its been great. For the times you DO need to move it, it's so nice to have

Offline Boski

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2023, 11:09 AM »
I own multiple 120 Kapexs, all are on UG stands with wings, great system. When you attach the wings then adjust them to be on plain check the connection to the saw, I find they need an extra turn if you change the position of the wings. These for the most part stay in the shop.

I recently bought a KSC 60 without the UG system. That lasted a couple of days. ended up buying the UG system for it. I did notice they have improved the connection tab.

If you do a lot of repetitive cuts, get some extra stops.

Thanks for the feedback, think i'm sold. darn this is getting expensive  ;D

With the extra stops, do you have two on each extension, so you have shorter or longer stops on the go at once?

The wings fit the MFT 3 and CMS also.

Tom
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Offline Boski

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2023, 11:11 AM »
Great feedback, thanks, looks like i'll be getting one at some point.
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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2023, 12:22 PM »
@Boski

A picture of the wings connected to an MFT with a few stops (I probably have 50 stops in the shop). The reason they're on the MFT is we were cross cutting plywood about 2' wide. 

Cautionary notes;

If the wings are not stable, you do not have them connected correctly.
When loosening the wings, turn the thumb bolt only as far as necessary to remove the wings.
Connecting to the MFT may require some shaping of the plastic on the thumb bolts with a sander.

The wing connection should be this secure;

 

Tom

Offline HighlandMarine

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2023, 05:29 PM »

Can anyone provide some feedback on the stand and wings?

It's a fair lump of money on top of the kapex 120 itself so was after some feedback on them?


Worth every penny if you need to be mobile!! Deploys and packs up quickly, super lightweight with the KS120 mounted. One of the items I put off due to cost, and once I got it, wished I’d made the jump sooner.

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Offline Bencan

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2023, 08:06 PM »
The kapex stand is incomparable to the dewalt stands. If you buy a kapex and use it to do site work the festool stand is an absolute must. Without the stand and it’s functionality the kapex really is just another mitre saw (albeit better than most). Frankly I was disappointed by the saw until I bought the wings and man what a difference


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Offline JimH2

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2023, 11:58 AM »
I'll take it the other direction. I have the saw and use it on the UG set but give it a 'C'. Even on level concrete it is not quit solid (and yes I know how to adjust the legs) and would be significantly better with two legs per side, which would also prevent the material being cut from putting pressure on the fence when being adjusted. The material support along the entire span is a plus, but the cart leaves a lot to be desired when it is broken down for transport. I have a Dewalt mitersaw as well with their stand and it is a rock solid design albeit trading the full length material support for stability. I believe Festool at one time had a different stand with two legs, but that was some time ago.

Offline Df1k1

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Re: Kapex stand and extensions
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2023, 08:08 AM »
I don’t own the mobile stand, but do have the extension wings. I bought them to extend the length of my MFT and Kapex. There’s some great YouTube videos by a guy name Ben on setting them up calibrating them etc. (I know this sounds stupid but they are complete. PITA to put them back in the bag. Had to YouTube).
 I plan on keeping them when I move to a new shop and convert them into stationary extensions for my Kapex. The nice part about that is the legs fold and they’re automatically at the height of the Kapex and I can always take them off and use them on the MFT if necessary. Not cheap but well worth it. My biggest complaint is the way they attach to the MFT. The knob is so freaking finicky .