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Offline glass1

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I think everybody is not solving the issue correctly. Please check my post about the kapex miter adjustment-another kapex post. In my opinion the problem is NOT the thickness of the miter scale plate but the size (diameter) of the circular collar that pushes the sprung steel plate off of the miter scale the tolerance is very tight(small) so that if there is any deflection of the miter scale then the miter scale will be contacting both the sprung steel and the tab above the miter scale.  just my cents  thats why it works fine and then tightens up. In fact if they made the miter scale thicker it would be more stable  then of course the sprung steel would have to move away from the miter scale even more.

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Offline Brice Burrell

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I think everybody is not solving the issue correctly. Please check my post about the kapex miter adjustment-another kapex post. In my opinion the problem is NOT the thickness of the miter scale plate but the size (diameter) of the circular collar that pushes the sprung steel plate off of the miter scale the tolerance is very tight(small) so that if there is any deflection of the miter scale then the miter scale will be contacting both the sprung steel and the tab above the miter scale.  just my cents  thats why it works fine and then tightens up. In fact if they made the miter scale thicker it would be more stable  then of course the sprung steel would have to move away from the miter scale even more.

Glass, please don't take the following wrong way. This problem has already been looked at by the professional service technicians and probably the engineers at Festool Germany and they came to the conclusion reached in this thread. Festool changed the spring plate (what you are calling the piece of sprung steel) and this caused the problem. I understand you are trying to help by offering your opinion. The reason I'm mentioning this is because people read threads like this one to find the answers to their Festool problems and now they may second guess Festool's official fix based on speculation by members here. The Festool USA's service department does a great job at meeting the needs of the customers when a problem comes up, lets not add speculation that questions their expertise.

It may seem I'm pointing you out unfairly after some many others have speculated here too. The difference is the earlier speculation was mostly done before Festool's analysis/official fix was known and the members weren't suggesting Festool's analysis is incorrect. I respect the fact that you are allowed to express your opinions here but making the but maybe the statement "EVERYONE'S ON THE WRONG TRACK" is a little irresponsible (my opinion).
« Last Edit: August 09, 2008, 08:24 PM by Brice Burrell »
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Offline Brad Evans

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #182 on: August 09, 2008, 08:54 PM »
Brice, you reference Festool's "official fix."   A couple weeks ago it was said something official from Festool would be coming.  Is it posted here somewhere?  Thanx...
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Offline glass1

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #183 on: August 09, 2008, 10:08 PM »
I take nothing personal. I look for the simplest solutions to problems. This is not always the case for people or companies with vested interests. Just look under the miter scale and observe the miter plate the tab above and the sprung steel plate   then lock and unlock  see how little the unlock mechanism moves the sprung steel away from the miter plate. now unscrew the steel sprung plate  see the pin with the collar around its middle  that pushes the sprung steel plate away from the miter plate.  If the collars diameter was just slightly larger it would push the sprung steel sl;ightly farther away from the miter plate. I am a practical person-sometimes the "official solution" is just that an " official solution.

Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #184 on: August 09, 2008, 11:02 PM »
Brice, you reference Festool's "official fix."   A couple weeks ago it was said something official from Festool would be coming.  Is it posted here somewhere?  Thanx...

Brad, Festool is sending out new spring plates to fix the problem. No official word from Festool posted here, but the spring plate is the fix.

Glass, if you followed this issue you know that the spring plate was changed prior to the US release, this change caused the problem. The change was to address some issues with miter setting not lock securely enough on some saws overseas. This change didn't allow enough clearance and cause the rubbing. The new spring plate has, more or less, the effect as the solution you are proposing (more clearance). It seems you don't fully understand how the fix works or the effects it has on the saw. I understand your intentions here are well meaning but that doesn't change fact that you are adding a speculative fix to a problem that has already be solved by the very competent service technicians and engineers at Festool. I don't want your speculation to confuse any members coming to this thread late.
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Offline gstuartw

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #185 on: December 18, 2014, 12:53 PM »
Brice,

I purchased a Kapex back in March in anticipation of completing my shop build, which would then allow me to start a kitchen remodel. Well shame on me but the shop took a bit longer and I have just now put the Kapex on my MFT and cut the zip holding the arm down. To my dismay the saw would not rotate on the base without considerable pressure and it makes quite a scraping sound. All of this of course echoes the posts from members replying to the original poster back in 2008. I'm seeking some advice as to how I have this issue remedied.

Stuart

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #186 on: December 18, 2014, 01:08 PM »
Brice,

I purchased a Kapex back in March in anticipation of completing my shop build, which would then allow me to start a kitchen remodel. Well shame on me but the shop took a bit longer and I have just now put the Kapex on my MFT and cut the zip holding the arm down. To my dismay the saw would not rotate on the base without considerable pressure and it makes quite a scraping sound. All of this of course echoes the posts from members replying to the original poster back in 2008. I'm seeking some advice as to how I have this issue remedied.

Stuart

      I highly recommend calling Festool service.

Seth

Offline gstuartw

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #187 on: December 18, 2014, 01:11 PM »
Thanks Seth. Probably should have been my first thought but after googling the issue and finding a thread here I just shot from the hip. Multiple times at that as I have also contacted Tool Nut/ Festool Products and PM'd Shane.
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Offline gstuartw

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #188 on: December 18, 2014, 01:45 PM »
      I highly recommend calling Festool service.

Seth

Actually I highly recommend properly trying to engage the mechanism that frees the saw up to rotate. DOH! I hope this is the first and last time I embarrass myself like this here on the FOG forum!


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Offline Worm Drive

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #189 on: December 18, 2014, 08:52 PM »
I had the same issue with the spring plate (I guess that's what we've agreed to call it) scraping on the miter plate. I pulled the mechanism apart, put the spring plate in a vice and bent it slightly. Put it back together and it works like a champ.

Offline Tool-Caddy

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Re: Kapex miter table hard to turn or Scraping?
« Reply #190 on: November 20, 2020, 02:11 PM »
My Kapex is about 9 years old.  I have had this problem twice now.  Eventually, it is nearly impossible to move the turntable.  I hear a scrapping sound as well.  I blow all sawdust out of every seam and turn the saw upside down.  I then use a spray lubricant on the bottom of the turntable that rides on the base of the saw.  The resolves the issue.  Still. the turntable is difficult to move but there is no more scrapping.  I would like to ease the tension on the turntable.  Can anyone help with this issue?